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Splinter Cell Conviction Demo Impressions
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AltogetherAndrews
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the walrus said:
I really don't think M&E is a dealbreaker. I wish it was a little less automated, but I like the idea of the precision and the effortless, perfect execution, fits well with the character. The saturation trick is just plain goofy, much like the projected objectives and arrows. So help me god if the next Rainbow Six features any of that.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
I think it may have something to do with the creative director of Chaos Theory working on the Far Cry games now.the walrus said:
Overall I was a little disappointed coming off the demo. The Unreal engine is looking quite muddy, I really wish they adapted a left trigger aiming system, and I am on the fence about the mark and execute feature.
I did enjoy tagging 3 guys with no available execute, then bolting out and hand to handing the first immediately followed by hitting Y while they are drawing down on me. Three guys done nice and clean.
This proved to be a temporary enjoyment. I much preferred engaging targets using my own control. Though this proved a little cumbersome. The aiming did not come easy. While I adapted a bit by the end, I could not help but feel that the mark and execute feature is there to compensate for a lack of slick controls.
My biggest let down does not come from the demo though. This became a higher contender for rental as opposed to a purchase when they announced the absence of spies vs. mercs. My favorite feature of the last few Splinter Cells, and the ultimate source of replayability has been removed. While the spy vs. spy stuff looks interesting, in the end I feel it jeopardizes the value found when only facing human opponents. Having bots is simply not the same.
I hope the reviews assuage my fears, but this title I was once very much looking forward to, has now sunk pretty far on my list of anticipated titles.
I did enjoy tagging 3 guys with no available execute, then bolting out and hand to handing the first immediately followed by hitting Y while they are drawing down on me. Three guys done nice and clean.
This proved to be a temporary enjoyment. I much preferred engaging targets using my own control. Though this proved a little cumbersome. The aiming did not come easy. While I adapted a bit by the end, I could not help but feel that the mark and execute feature is there to compensate for a lack of slick controls.
My biggest let down does not come from the demo though. This became a higher contender for rental as opposed to a purchase when they announced the absence of spies vs. mercs. My favorite feature of the last few Splinter Cells, and the ultimate source of replayability has been removed. While the spy vs. spy stuff looks interesting, in the end I feel it jeopardizes the value found when only facing human opponents. Having bots is simply not the same.
I hope the reviews assuage my fears, but this title I was once very much looking forward to, has now sunk pretty far on my list of anticipated titles.
Fox the Sly
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Varth said:
Wow. :lol
FunkyMunkey
Banned
Varth said:
I'd pretend to be surprised, but I can't while looking at the direction they're taking this :/.
D4Danger said:
Don't forget the size 150 font on the walls reminding you that you are a ghost and can go through walls, while you are currently going through said walls.
Gareth Bale
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Has anyone else realised that there is a massive gap in the dedicated stealth action market now? I know Thief 4 is coming, but when there's only 2 franchises of particular merit on either console (Splinter Cell & MGS) I can't believe someone like EA hasn't stepped in... considering how well these 2 have done sales wise.
I mean since 2006 (Hitman & Double Agent) there hasn't been anything apart from Velvet Assassin... and Velvet Assassin doesn't really even count. We really need another Hitman.
That's kind of weird, considering it's pretty much impossible to use any sort of stealth in Far Cry 2...
I mean since 2006 (Hitman & Double Agent) there hasn't been anything apart from Velvet Assassin... and Velvet Assassin doesn't really even count. We really need another Hitman.
BobsRevenge said:
That's kind of weird, considering it's pretty much impossible to use any sort of stealth in Far Cry 2...
The Nature Roy
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If you really want to worry about Rainbow 6, just look to the new Ghost Recon.AltogetherAndrews said:
Gamer @ Heart
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The Nature Roy said:
Im so shallow, that as long as there is still cover and i can customize my character, i will still by the next RB6 : )
AltogetherAndrews
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The Nature Roy said:
VeryGooster
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You know, now every time I boot up the Conviction demo, I can't stop thinking about how the blonde guy looks a lot like Clark from Good Will Hunting. :lol
marathonfool
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Bungieware said:
It's so dire I'm looking forward to playing Alpha Protocol as a stealth character.
AltogetherAndrews
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Bungieware said:
It's not just the stealth genre. The "evolution" of just about all Clancy franchises has left several gaps, in the stealth to the tactical shooter markets. It's a damned shame. I hate to hold progression and new ideas against a company, but damn it, Ubi. The way forward is to add new properties with new ideas while polishing the existing ones to perfection, not to simply ditch everything in sight and build whole products around a few (often half assed) fancy concepts.
bigdaddygamebot
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can't find the official thread so...
I just had a nitwit tell me that co-op for the game is ONLY splitscreen and I can't find confirmation or denial regarding that fact.
Should I be placing much faith in the claims of the nitwit?
The splitscreen co-op is a good thing but ONLY splitscreen? That sounds completely wrong to me.
I just had a nitwit tell me that co-op for the game is ONLY splitscreen and I can't find confirmation or denial regarding that fact.
Should I be placing much faith in the claims of the nitwit?
The splitscreen co-op is a good thing but ONLY splitscreen? That sounds completely wrong to me.
AltogetherAndrews
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Your friend is a nitwit
bigdaddygamebot
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Bizzyb said:
Perspective sir.
bigdaddygamebot
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AltogetherAndrews said:
Well, he's not a friend, but he definitely IS a nitwit.
I'll punch him next time I see him if it makes you happy.
Thanks for making me feel better about my future purchase.
MMaRsu
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I've wanted to post in this thread ever since I was banned. The demo sucks. What they did to sam sucks.. they've nudered this game and the Splinter Cell name in the process. My god.. I mean some things are really cool, like the interrogation thing.. and the full will probably be better than this shitty demo, but come on.
And I read in a Q&A with the dev that they are PROUD of the AI?????? What the FUCK? I mean seriously!
I don't mind the graphics though, except the models are ugly as hell.
And I read in a Q&A with the dev that they are PROUD of the AI?????? What the FUCK? I mean seriously!
I don't mind the graphics though, except the models are ugly as hell.
bigdaddygamebot said:
Reason you couldn't find the official thread is because it hasn't been made yet lol. I'll probably make it within a week of launch. Except I can't make headers at all like most official threads use
so hopefully someone can do that for me. If not then it'll just be a headless thread.bigdaddygamebot
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JambiBum said:Reason you couldn't find the official thread is because it hasn't been made yet lol. I'll probably make it within a week of launch. Except I can't make headers at all like most official threads use
Pffft.
Fancy headers are for pussies.
macfoshizzle
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i actually enjoyed the demo. loved experimenting with the mark and executess. loved the presentation. i like where this is going.
i just wish they have a more seamless run to walk animation. it's either youre running or walking, nothing in between.
i just wish they have a more seamless run to walk animation. it's either youre running or walking, nothing in between.
Bungieware said:
well I think the genre is not dead yet ( unlike point n click and adventures ) , and just to add to your post we got Syphon Filter Dark Mirror and Logan's Shadow and Tenchu 4 Shadow Assassins got released last year.
now we have Splinter Cell Conviction in April and MGS Pace Walker in May plus Alpha Protocol in June , so that one game per month for stealth lovers.
AltogetherAndrews
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Totobeni said:
Lulz @ bold
practice02
Banned
So I'm playing MGS4 and played the SC:C demo last night, and it seems like maybe this game will scratch the itch MGS4 is leaving me with. Also I commend Ubisoft on the choice to not have an over the shoulder zoom for targeting and the controller setup in general. When I first looked at the setup I was all like what the fuck? But I had no learning curve it all felt very natural.
AltogetherAndrews
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JambiBum said:
If you make a plain thread without the marketing bits, you have my vote. To hell with the overdone shill threads.
Anyway, I think you just have to call it.
marathonfool said:
I ache for a new Thief game.
The Conviction demo has one good gimmick (the last known position bit).
M&E = "Computer plays the game for you!"
Just not that impressed. Went back and started replaying Chaos Theory. For being nearly 5 years old that game has held up very well. Graphically, it looks dated. But otherwise it's still extremely strong.
VeryGooster
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FStop7 said:
The other night I was playing it and I was spotted outside the hall where I entered from the outside area of the level, but managed to sneak past the guys in that room with the experiment (the lights flickering on and off) and end up behind them as they're firing at my last known position. I could have easily just walked past them to the pipe to climb down, but a damn milk crate glitched out and wouldn't budge as I was trying to move forward. It was such an awesome moment completely shat on by a glitch that fixed itself upon a reload.
Dead Man Typing
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Finished Chaos Theory again last night, and I'm now playing Xbox 1 Double Agent.
Conviction has a lot to live up to. I'm still hopeful that it will give me a unique experience, which can be identified as Splinter Cell in the final product. We shall see.
Conviction has a lot to live up to. I'm still hopeful that it will give me a unique experience, which can be identified as Splinter Cell in the final product. We shall see.
practice02
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I hope they do some Batman:AA challenge room stuff.
practice02
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HUH?kaskade said:There's are modes that at least seem pretty similar to them. I'm not sure how the points thing works with that persistent creation things though.
Also, the game has gone Gold