Cornbread78
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Spring Anime 2017 |OT| Don't be a SukaSuka for Gacha
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Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Yep, that's exactly how I feel. The premise very much kind of knee-caps the plot, especially since
A1 was also not very subtle in their direction over who the killer was.
You're not living your life correctly friend.
Don't enable him !
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Is Boruto taking a break of sorts or is it going to be a long running show just like its predecessor ?
PshycoNinja
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I... really liked Erased...
hosannainexcelsis
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Its BD sales are better than those of ~95% of currently releasing shows, yes, but then that 95% are not making a profit on BDs. I agree that by the numbers we have to measure success the anime was a success, just pointing out that there are all kind of business realities behind the scenes that we may not be aware of. An example I am aware of is that Horizon to the Middle of Nowhere did not receive a third season despite very good BD sales because Sunrise's contract for the series meant they didn't receive much of any return on their investment and so didn't want to continue animating it. Another example would be Attack on Titan not receiving a second season for a number of years since Araki and Wit were already busy on other projects by the time the producers wanted them to continue, and thus they had to wait a while to continue the anime. Of course, in the case of an adaptation the publisher who owns the IP could replace the animation studio to continue animating the work if the original studio is unwilling or unable to continue. Still, they may decide that changing studios would lead to a result they'd be unhappy with, or that they've already received the maximum amount of promotional benefit an anime would provide and any further seasons would be superfluous from their perspective.
Fundamentally, I think the easy availability of Oricon numbers needs to be treated with caution by anime fans trying to analyze whether an anime has been successful enough to continue or not. Having numbers at our fingertips can lead us to think we know the full picture when we do not.
Erased is my recent big example of how a show really needs to learn how to stick the ending. Soured me on the whole thing with those last 3 episodes.
The Monogatari character designs make me irrationally mad! My brain just doesn't like them!
Of course there are all sorts of reasons why shows are and aren't made. Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer couldn't get the Pillows to sign off and fell through the cracks. However the reason cited in the article is financial and not something like the studio is currently busy as with Wit. I'm finding it hard to believe that reason in particular since it's doing better than almost all of its contemporaries, some of which such as Konosuba ended up getting a second season later. It's not like it's an idol platform such as Symphogeah where the music sales take a priority so I'm not even sure which other metric we could consider.
Erased didn't stick the ending by 7 episodes though.
Idk, i'm fairly positive myself, my anime list probably has more 8s and 9s than anything else
Erased is a show that has me rather salty because I actually liked the start a lot but then it went to shit but I still rate it as a 6 specially because of the earlier episodes
Fair enough.
hosannainexcelsis
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What Wagahara says, as quoted in the ANN article, is "Even if original creators say they want to make anime, that doesn't mean they will be able to. No matter how much you push the original creators, they can't make anime. Anime is also a business." He's saying he can't make an anime happen just out of his own personal desire; anime is a business that requires the involvement of many companies and people. I don't think he's specific enough here to identify any particular reason as to why a second season has not been made.
Unfortunately it was dwarfed by Nurse Witch Komugi chan R.
Cornbread78
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Usually when people cite "____ is a business" that means said thing isn't making money and this isn't a charity.
Hellwarden
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The best deals everyone.
Eat a bag of dicks Amazon.
Eat a bag of dicks Amazon.
Dedication Through Light
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Adds to the stack with Free! s3, Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere III, Accel World s2, World Trigger s2, and Owari no Serafu S3.
I only miss Part-Timer S2 out of all of these tbh
I tend to give some more leeway to seasonal stuff when recommending shows, but when it comes to older series I'm not really going to recommend them to anyone unless they stood out to me or they fit a very specific niche someone's asking for.
It's part of the reason why I might watch seasonal trash, but tend to veer away from watching older shows like that. If, for example, someone asks for a mystery show, I'm much more likely to mention Mouryou no Hako or Higurashi over Erased (unless the poster has already watched those, of course), in the same way I really appreciated people recommending Seirei no Moribito to me when I asked for a character-centric show, rather than some other mediocre series.
My way of thinking is that if someone asks for an older show, I'd rather point them to shows I really liked in that style or genre rather than recommending that they keep watching a decent but still comparatively mediocre show (such as Erased, in this case). Erased did a couple things right (such as Satoru bonding with the girl, and his mom also rocked), but it ultimately failed to me as the mystery show it set itself up to be, with an obvious culprit, a motive that had to be explained through an exposition dump to make any sense, and a pretty filmsy theme that the show forced a bit too much by the end, resulting in an underwhelming climax and payoff. I was okay with watching it and enjoyed it back then, but I seriously wouldn't recommend anyone to spend the time watching it over several other mystery shows or drama series that I think are better than it.
It's part of the reason why I might watch seasonal trash, but tend to veer away from watching older shows like that. If, for example, someone asks for a mystery show, I'm much more likely to mention Mouryou no Hako or Higurashi over Erased (unless the poster has already watched those, of course), in the same way I really appreciated people recommending Seirei no Moribito to me when I asked for a character-centric show, rather than some other mediocre series.
My way of thinking is that if someone asks for an older show, I'd rather point them to shows I really liked in that style or genre rather than recommending that they keep watching a decent but still comparatively mediocre show (such as Erased, in this case). Erased did a couple things right (such as Satoru bonding with the girl, and his mom also rocked), but it ultimately failed to me as the mystery show it set itself up to be, with an obvious culprit, a motive that had to be explained through an exposition dump to make any sense, and a pretty filmsy theme that the show forced a bit too much by the end, resulting in an underwhelming climax and payoff. I was okay with watching it and enjoyed it back then, but I seriously wouldn't recommend anyone to spend the time watching it over several other mystery shows or drama series that I think are better than it.
firehawk12
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Heh. That guy who went to 700 idol shows in 1 year...
And that older guy who quit seeing his girlfriend to go see idols instead.
*Gets to part about Harajuku Monogatari*
Well, it's kinda creepy, but not THAT bad...
*Gets to part anout Amore Carina*
lol yeah, they just get younger and younger.
Dedication Through Light
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Anime strike getting so many of my shows, nice
Katsugeki: Touken Ranu (7/1)
Love & Lies (7/3)
DIVE!! (7/5)
Altair: A Record of Battles (7/7)
Vatican Miracle Examiner (7/7)
Made in Abyss (7/7)
Welcome to the Ballroom (7/8)
Hitorijime My Hero (7/8)
Princess Principal (7/8)
Lights of the Clione (7/12)
Hell Girl 4 (7/14)
Sagrada, RoB and Re:Creators w/ more new eps!
https://twitter.com/animestrike
Katsugeki: Touken Ranu (7/1)
Love & Lies (7/3)
DIVE!! (7/5)
Altair: A Record of Battles (7/7)
Vatican Miracle Examiner (7/7)
Made in Abyss (7/7)
Welcome to the Ballroom (7/8)
Hitorijime My Hero (7/8)
Princess Principal (7/8)
Lights of the Clione (7/12)
Hell Girl 4 (7/14)
Sagrada, RoB and Re:Creators w/ more new eps!
https://twitter.com/animestrike
Admiral Woofington
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anime strike is the issue to be honest. Fuck anime strike.
I wouldn't mind that much if amazon strike didn't require a prime account on top of it.
oh well, it's going to suck for a bit but I doubt 4 services will survive for that long.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Netflix sucks because we don't get shit until the season is over, but at least the anime is included in the subscription. Anime Strike is just fucking stupid as fuck, it's a double paywall where you have to first pay for Prime and then an extra $5 a month for strike. Fuck that, I'll go back to my old ways prior to the rise of crunchy before touching that bullshit logic.
Now I'm wondering if I'm supposed to subscribe to NA Amazon prime and Anime Strike as an Argentine resient, since there isn't a local Amazon site for my region AFAIK.
I really appreciated it when CR started offering regional prices that were more in line with what I could pay, so it'd be sad to have the whole system regress to pretending we Argentines earn as much as people working in the US do (which we don't, not by a reeeeeeeally long shot).
I really appreciated it when CR started offering regional prices that were more in line with what I could pay, so it'd be sad to have the whole system regress to pretending we Argentines earn as much as people working in the US do (which we don't, not by a reeeeeeeally long shot).
Cornbread78
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Seven Deadly Sins ep.13-14
Yes, yes. I love me some SAO..
That was a pretty amazing fight in episode 13 and again to finish off episode 14. Ypu can certainly see why/how they are creating a PS4 game from this show.
Yes, yes. I love me some SAO..
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
That's kind of my thinking. I see it as more of a waiting game, since I can't imagine that Amazon is going to get the type of returns they're expecting versus how much money they're dumping into the service.
Amazon seems like they're working with the mindset that they're just competing with Netlix and CR which is definitely not the case; they're also competing with fansubs. CR's biggest selling point is not just how cheap it is, but also the fact that it's able to get their content out much quicker than fansubbers . Ignoring the Double Paywall (though that is definitely an issue) the average anime fan won't put up with Amazon continually delaying their simulcasts. Why pay for a service that's always late when you can just watch the content on certain sites for free?
Dedication Through Light
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I dont think amazon is going for the ~average anime fan~ but rather Amazon Prime users who watch anime. And isnt it unclear how they are getting sentai and aniplex shows, is AMZN paying those companies for them, or are those companies paying AMZN to have their shows on the service?
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Amazon has to be paying Sentai because the reverse wouldn't make any sense.
PshycoNinja
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Season 2 when for this..
Like alot of anime, it went down the drain with the time skip..
The Silver
Member
So is/was Gundam Thunderbolt good? And if so should I watch the recut movie or the episodes?
Cornbread78
Member
Sakarada Reset ep.13
Sonetimes this show is to smart for me, other times, it tries to be too smart for me. Even with that, it remains ibteresting because it keeps you guessing how eveeything pieces together..
Cornbread78
Member
It moves at a blistering pace, but it's worth it for the mecha action and soundtrack at the very least.
The recut movie adds more footage so I'd choose that over the episodes.
Valdfellgar
Banned
It's pretty melodramatic/a bit edgy dark, then again it's not like Gundam is the most restrained franchise anyway. It's awesome for the mecha action though, which looks absolutely incredible and the soundtrack is solid too.
Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans S1 Episode 25 [End]
It's been so long since I've watched a full Gundam series and I'm glad that this was so enjoyable. All the characters are so great but man I can only see things ending up awful for Orga and everyone in Tekkadan in season 2. "Yeah let's all fucking die for the family who cares about our individuality." I want to see them happy but with that kind of attitude, they most likely won't make it and it pisses me off that they are okay with that. Maybe I'm right or wrong and people here know what's coming, but that's just what I'm expecting.
I'll start season 2 next week.
It's been so long since I've watched a full Gundam series and I'm glad that this was so enjoyable. All the characters are so great but man I can only see things ending up awful for Orga and everyone in Tekkadan in season 2. "Yeah let's all fucking die for the family who cares about our individuality." I want to see them happy but with that kind of attitude, they most likely won't make it and it pisses me off that they are okay with that. Maybe I'm right or wrong and people here know what's coming, but that's just what I'm expecting.
I'll start season 2 next week.
Youtube link for the non tea drinkersTokyo Girls, one of the idol docs I watched a month or so ago, is out on BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08w9lvb/storyville-tokyo-girls
As I said at the time, it's interesting if you want to see the struggle life of an independent idol and some of the weirder/awkward aspects of idol fandom.
(The part where 40 year olds cheer on 8 year old girls, in particular
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Season 2 is definitely a treat. I had conflicted feelings when it was airing, but upon further reflection I definitely have to praise the writers for committing to the path they ultimately take it.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Not yet, but that's big news (and bad news for those who were hoping Amazon would stop licensing so much anime). Now they've got both this and noitaminA as ongoing blocks they hold the exclusive worldwide streaming rights too, in addition to any individual shows they license in Japan and what they get from Sentai.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Fuck anime strike
yeah seriously, why in the hell would sentai spend money licensing a show and then spend money to have the privilege to stream the show on a service they have no investment in at all.
they are obviously getting paid to have their shows there otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
ideally amazon will just go one step farther and start actually funding some anime series.
someone high up in amazon might be an anime fan and we might finally get a new season of Berserk as we haven't had one in almost 20 years.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
We'll get amazing and memorable shows like dimension w
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Amazon has already been funding anime series that haven't aired on TV, namely an ongoing series of Shin-chan spinoff shorts. I think most of the impetus for Amazon's involvement in anime comes from Amazon Japan though; their Western branches don't seem to care much.
fair enough.
more realistically perhaps they will go all in enough that they decide it should be a fully stand alone service, off shoot the brand in general and no longer require prime to get it.
either way... I think they have pretty much everything I was interested in this season... so it looks like I am going to watch some bottom of the barrel stuff with funi dubs this coming season lol.
Dedication Through Light
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I thought that should be good, 200 countries get access to anime on a stable service on multiple devices, and we dont have to worry about [insert animism show is or is not getting picked up]. Apparently people want services that lock content to just 3 or 4 countries.
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