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Stanford professor: video games and online porn will lead to the extinction of men

Zeal

Banned
Simply comes down to distinguishing between fantasy and reality.

I have a wife. She preordered Halo 4 as well. Instant win.
 

Mxrz

Member
"Look, if this relationship ever is going to work, I either gotta play video games or fuck other women."

And this article is dumb. In the future porn and video games will become one. And it totally ignores all the artificial insemination stuff. Life finds a way, dammit.
 

Razek

Banned
This thread depresses me because I can't really defend myself. I spend too much time in front of computers and video games. 21 years old, never been in a relationship.

It hurts because, while I don't agree with everything the guy says, I think there could be something to what he is saying. Regardless, I do not want to project my life onto others either.

Let's look over the ridiculous vocabulary and really dive into the message here.

Many men are changing. However, there is more to it than video games and pornography. There are many variables in play as to what's happening. There is an economic evolution taking place in which more young males are given more time to themselves because employment is much harder to gain. In addition to that, I feel the advent of expanded social networking is currently creating a social revolution. Within these new thoughts, we see an acceptance of online culture, those who would rather be spending their time in cyber space than out looking for work, getting a date, ect.

I'm not saying video games and pornography have no blame, but they are more of a side effect to underlying issues.
 

SriK

Member
Sounds like some hardcore moralizing agenda, but I'm glad to see we finally found a solution to the overpopulation crisis: all we need to do is get all the guys competing in StarCraft instead of football.

Also, has Philip Zimbardo done anything remotely relevant since the Stanford prison experiment? Feel like every time I see his name other than that it's in connection to some sensational bullshit news item.

FroJay said:
I agree with him, the next generation is screwed.

Before video games the next generation was screwed because of TV shows and McDonalds, and before that the next generation was screwed because of Dungeons and Dragons, and before that the next generation was screwed because of hippies/Woodstock, and before that the next generation was screwed because of Elvis, and before that the next generation was screwed because of radio, and before that the next generation was screwed because of newspapers. Given the staggering amount of vapid mainstream pop-culture dependie ruining that has apparently accumulated over time, it's a miracle that we're not all hairy monkeys sitting around in a circle eating our own feces (while pressing buttons on our TV controller to headshot tentacled anime lesbians and listen to Satanic rock and roll) with absolutely no interest in boring things like Talking To Other Organisms or Having Sex With Non-Sterile Human Beings.
 
Sounds like some hardcore moralizing agenda, but I'm glad to see we finally found a solution to the overpopulation crisis: all we need to do is get all the guys competing in StarCraft instead of football.

Also, has Philip Zimbardo done anything remotely relevant since the Stanford prison experiment? Feel like every time I see his name other than that it's in connection to some sensational bullshit news item.



Before video games the next generation was screwed because of TV shows and McDonalds, and before that the next generation was screwed because of Dungeons and Dragons, and before that the next generation was screwed because of hippies/Woodstock, and before that the next generation was screwed because of Elvis, and before that the next generation was screwed because of radio, and before that the next generation was screwed because of newspapers. Given the staggering amount of vapid mainstream pop-culture dependie ruining that has apparently accumulated over time, it's a miracle that we're not all hairy monkeys sitting around in a circle eating our own feces (while pressing buttons on our TV controller to headshot tentacled anime lesbians and listen to Satanic rock and roll) with absolutely no interest in boring things like Talking To Other Organisms or Having Sex With Non-Sterile Human Beings.

wasn't the MTV generation meant to grow up with no attention span?
 

Paracelsus

Member
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Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
Let's look over the ridiculous vocabulary and really dive into the message here.

Many men are changing. However, there is more to it than video games and pornography. There are many variables in play as to what's happening. There is an economic evolution taking place in which more young males are given more time to themselves because employment is much harder to gain. In addition to that, I feel the advent of expanded social networking is currently creating a social revolution. Within these new thoughts, we see an acceptance of online culture, those who would rather be spending their time in cyber space than out looking for work, getting a date, ect.

I'm not saying video games and pornography have no blame, but they are more of a side effect to underlying issues.

I can agree with some of that as well. This issues (if you can call it one) is not black and white, there's a little bit of truth to both sides.

As for my situation, I thought about it and it's just a matter of wanting to change your situation. You either want to change it, or you don't. There may be people out there who are content to keeping themselves out of a relationship, and if that's truly what they want, what can you do about it? I don't consider myself to be one of these people, but I'm sure they exist.
 

DocSeuss

Member
I play PC games, like STALKER, so if anything, I'm the exact opposite of risk-averse, because I play the hardest video games out there. I can handle anything!

Not sure how porn makes people risk-averse, though.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
I play PC games, like STALKER, so if anything, I'm the exact opposite of risk-averse, because I play the hardest video games out there. I can handle anything!

Not sure how porn makes people risk-averse, though.

I think the idea is that some folks would rather get the instant gratification of porn than to try and start a relationship with another human.
 

Razek

Banned
I can agree with some of that as well. This issues (if you can call it one) is not black and white, there's a little bit of truth to both sides.

As for my situation, I thought about it and it's just a matter of wanting to change your situation. You either want to change it, or you don't. There may be people out there who are content to keeping themselves out of a relationship, and if that's truly what they want, what can you do about it? I don't consider myself to be one of these people, but I'm sure they exist.

Do you really feel you can blame games and pornography for how you may or may not have ended up? Keep in mind, I'm not digging at you whatsoever. However, I feel besides my above reason which were painted for later adults, that social upbringing, parental guidance, and proper education have more of an effect on how a human will interact later in life.
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
Do you really feel you can blame games and pornography for how you may or may not have ended up? Keep in mind, I'm not digging at you whatsoever. However, I feel besides my above reason which were painted for later adults, that social upbringing, parental guidance, and proper education have more of an effect on how a human will interact later in life.

No, absolutely not. The problem lies in whether or not a person is able to moderate the amount of time the spend on those activities.
 

SriK

Member
wasn't the MTV generation meant to grow up with no attention span?

But, man, they totally have! Like, there was this topic I saw about how some dude didn't like Blade Runner, this is incontrovertible proof of how something something art appreciation and ADD and Michael Bay movies.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Don't people understand, if we get rid of anything fun then the only thing we have left to do is be super productive workers and breed like rabbits supporting short term economics because it forces us to spend more money and work harder to earn more.

THIS IS THE LIFE WE ALL SHOULD BE ASPIRING TOWARDS.

Yeah. The article, to me, screams of "You're not playing into society's plan! You should live life the way we deem fit!"

As long as we're happy, healthy, and not hurting others, who says we should live our lives any other way?


BAD MOTHER ALERT! BAD MOTHER ALERT!

No, absolutely not. The problem lies in whether or not a person is able to moderate the amount of time the spend on those activities.

Of course. As my mother always told me: No matter what you do, it has to be in moderation. Good or bad, doing something too much is always unhealthy.

That's pretty much how I try to live my life.
 
to me it sounds backwards.

I think it's more that the social systems and institutions are the ones failing men not the other way around.

If a study comes out and shows that female students are better at standardized testing then male students, what does that tell us? Doesn't mean girls are smarter, only that they do better on tests. Now if the education system, which relies on these types of tests, create studies which determine a students congnitive faculties, its going to show men underperforming. It doesn't deal with the issue, it just creates a generalization of the problem. If however, the education system used videogames to determine cognitive abilities, what then would the studies show?

if anything it's an issue of cultural, institutional, and social issues, that are creating the demise of men.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
A very true point for the OP. I am a product of this. Not everyone gets affected the same way, but there is a large portion of the generation that grew up with this stuff to be altered by it.

And the argument that says 'well in the past these same people would just be doing some other nerdy thing' only works to a point. Technology today makes everything much more convincing and alluring and will attract larger # of people to be affected by it.
 

Thrakier

Member
There certainly is, but does it matter? Where is the message in that? Only thing matters is if you are happy with yourself. I'm not, just playing games and porn + some work, that's not fullfilling. Although I'm not looking out for another relationship or even family as well. Point is, I don't know what I want, what to expect from life. I do consider that there is a certain chance that I'd know more if I'd play less videogames in my life. It's only a chance though. Maybe I've would've read books all the time, I don't know. It's a question of character also.
 

Razek

Banned
to me it sounds backwards.

I think it's more that the social systems and institutions are the ones failing men not the other way around.

If a study comes out and shows that female students are better at standardized testing then male students, what does that tell us? Doesn't mean girls are smarter, only that they do better on tests. Now if the education system, which relies on these types of tests, create studies which determine a students congnitive faculties, its going to show men underperforming. It doesn't deal with the issue, it just creates a generalization of the problem. If however, the education system used videogames to determine cognitive abilities, what then would the studies show?

if anything it's an issue of cultural, institutional, and social issues, that are creating the demise of men.

This is true. It has once again become another blame game. There are far more factors in place than people playing video games way too long.

Nobody wants to look at the failing standards of education and social upbringing. Cutting costs over and over to our educational programs. Nobody wants to look at how parents are raising there children today to standards set by the media.

No. The main factors have to be video games and porn.

I'll concede that the new trend of internet high-fiving recluses and giving them more distractions is definitely a factor in increasing outspoken loner population. I will not believe it has nearly any significant influence on finding employment or schooling compared to other social or economic factors. If it wasn't games and porn, it would be something else.
 

M3d10n

Member
Anyway, what's so bad about it? It's natural selection at its finest: if these people never form families, their "solitary tendency" genes will be eventually culled away from the gene pool and the extroverted will rule the world, whereas in the past they were unnaturally led into reproduction by arranged marriages and such.
 

Thrakier

Member
Anyway, what's so bad about it? It's natural selection at its finest: if these people never form families, their "solitary tendency" genes will be eventually culled away from the gene pool and the extroverted will rule the world, whereas in the past they were unnaturally led into reproduction by arranged marriages and such.

Oh my god, I'm so happy that I'll never have to see this world. ;D
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
So it's not nuclear war, or aliens, or giant monsters, or zombies, or an event of cosmic proportion like falling asteroids that will doom us all.

It's videogames.
 
Instant gratification is definitely more accessible these days, and while video games and pornography are perhaps some of the more recent developments, it doesn't make much sense to single them out, or single out men for that matter.

It's an issue related to the Internet as a whole, and our access to it. Many people have jobs that allow them access to it nearly all the time. Many of those people post here. Now we have it on our phones. Whether you become addicted to pornography, social networking or celebrity gossip is largely irrelevant.
 
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Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
eh... I don't think he's far off base, however, I think porn/videogames are the same as food/alcohol/drugs.

you overuse shit and develop a habit, that becomes an addiction, life suffers.
 
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