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Star Ocean: The Last Hope Official thread

Error said:
yeah but you don't get the unique abilities from BEAT S or BEAT B.
You get perks like 25% more burst time and stuff like that. I don't think that carries over though when you switch to N.
 
Synless said:
The framerate drops running off the disc too. Don't be fooled.
bunch of pop-ins too so far :-\ camera is a little wonky for me but I'm going to chalk it up to just finishing vesperia... for now.
Still enjoying it though.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Man that's a friggin' disappointment. I hate playing without a game installed.

Just install it. I started out with it running off the disc and still had FPS dips during battles. The battle loads can also get pretty bad compared to running off the HD. It's not ever battle, but some disc loads leave you staring at the spinning circle for 4 seconds before switching to combat.
 
Put in about 3:30 hours in just the first area. Accumulation of about 12000 fol. I feel good about my levels but what do I do after I beat the first boss? I'm exploring more and leveling but is there a specific place I should bolt to?

Liking the vibe so far, can only get better
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Put in about 3:30 hours in just the first area. Accumulation of about 12000 fol. I feel good about my levels but what do I do after I beat the first boss? I'm exploring more and leveling but is there a specific place I should bolt to?

Liking the vibe so far, can only get better
You need to go back and you'll find this huge base that is now there.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Put in about 3:30 hours in just the first area. Accumulation of about 12000 fol. I feel good about my levels but what do I do after I beat the first boss? I'm exploring more and leveling but is there a specific place I should bolt to?

Liking the vibe so far, can only get better

back to base.
 
I like the graphics. :P

Planets feel so life-like to me. Also helps to make me excited for FFXIII's areas.

Enemies have little HP, but do a good amount of damage. Odd balance, but personally I think I might like it more this way.
 
Synless said:
The framerate drops running off the disc too. Don't be fooled.

I have seen some framerate skips but not too many. I wish we could side by side playing off the disc vs HD, but I can't really see how installing it could make the load times faster. There really are not any.

Edit: About the camera, everyone agrees it is funky. Watch when you enter rooms sometimes enemies appear out of nowhere due to it.
 
Thanks. I can tell this one will have a lot of things to do later on. Not even into the meat of the story and already like ita lot.
 
Graphics look great, the models are pretty good and for me, what steals the show is the lighting. Also, I think some may be getting confused with the fps drop in battle due to the pause that you get when the LT/RT abilities connect.
 
MotherFan said:
I have seen some framerate skips but not too many. I wish we could side by side playing off the disc vs HD, but I can't really see how installing it could make the load times slower. There really are not any.

Edit: About the camera, everyone agrees it is funky. Watch when you enter rooms sometimes enemies appear out of nowhere due to it.
Could they really be worse running off the HD though? I dunno, but yea I have had more then enough times where I had insta battles because you start off in like a first person view and you get hit from the side or something.
 
Synless said:
Could they really be worse running off the HD though? I dunno, but yea I have had more then enough times where I had insta battles because you start off in like a first person view and you get hit from the side or something.

Err that was a typo, I meant i don't see how it could be any faster from the hd cause disc is fast too (Same with ToV it has no load times.)
 
I love this game so much. 10 hours in so far.

I think I am going to be spending a lot of time with it. Already have like 20 quests lined up from the shops that want me to find stuff and deliver it.

I haven't even touched item creation or divided any of my skill points yet. Not sure what I'm waiting for.
 
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
I love this game so much. 10 hours in so far.

I think I am going to be spending a lot of time with it. Already have like 20 quests lined up from the shops that want me to find stuff and deliver it.

I haven't even touched item creation or divided any of my skill points yet. Not sure what I'm waiting for.

Spend the skill points, they come in like candy. As for item creation, I have not yet found alot of the materials I need. I was able to make a couple items but other than that I just have a ton of recipes.
 
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I made a Flame Sword that seems terribly overpowered for the enemies that I'm facing at the moment. It's about 25 points stronger than the sword that you find in the second 'dungeon' of the second planet. I was one shotting the enemies in the area :D
 
burgerdog said:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I made a Flame Sword that seems terribly overpowered for the enemies that I'm facing at the moment. It's about 25 points stronger than the sword that you find in the second 'dungeon' of the second planet. I was one shotting the enemies in the area :D

Where did you get the flame gems?
 
MotherFan said:
Spend the skill points, they come in like candy.

That's good. Okay I'm about to go on a spending spree!

Oh and LOL I just got a battle trophy for
10,000 button presses... WTF the game just came out yesterday and I've pressed the controller buttons 10,000 times!?! Wowza!
 
Yeah once you figure out how to set up ambushes you'll be rolling in SP before you know it.
Just found a kitty in the woods. Loving this game.

Stone Rain is flipping badass.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
Yeah right, this is the best next gen RPG so far though (for me). And I've barely scratched the surface
Eh, I'm not sure if it's the best next gen RPG I've played yet.....I'll decide that when I beat the game. Characters and story are pretty lame so far.
 
burgerdog said:
So should I level up my current abilities? I was hoarding SP as well.

Personally I like to save Party SP (even though you can get lots more with the bonus board), but use each character's individual SP pretty freely.
 
burgerdog said:
So should I level up my current abilities? I was hoarding SP as well.
I tend to max the Special Arts first, then level up the others.

I just got Meracle. I hate her design, but goddamn she is a beast in battles it's fun to control her.

I'm playing off the disc and there no framerate dips after battles.
 
alske said:
Ugh. Child characters in RPGs... I hate Lymle. She's an awful character with awful acting.
Agreed, she's by far the worst child character in an RPG in a long time....maybe even ever!
 
PepsimanVsJoe said:
I can't hate on a character that heals and does some insane rolling evades. Besides I think she's cute(no-pedo).
I will admit her spells are pretty godlike...but damn that's some bad acting.
 
Any word on missable stuff yet? As usual, I am afraid to dive in until that sort of thing can be anticipated.
 
I got the game today and put in about 4-5 hours (Just got Lymle). Here's some first impressions:

+ As everyone has said, combat is a lot of fun. There's a lot to figure out at first, but it's all pretty simple. The difficulty (playing on Galaxy) isn't terrible, but it's enough of a constant challenge that I'm always in need of healing items and hoping I don't die before a save point (haven't died YET, I just often feel like I'm about to). The battle trophies are daunting, but it does give me goals to aim for and a reason not to just stick with using the same character throughout, and I like that.

+Areas are HUGE and there feels like a lot to explore. Between the treasure hiding out (which you get EXP just for finding, woot woot) and the mineral points, it's worth scoping out everything, even if there are a lot of dead ends where you were hoping a treasure chest might be lurking. The mineral/harvest points remind me of The Last Remnant somewhat and it's a device I liked in both games.

+ Graphics are nice for the most part. The worlds are expansive and beautiful. The interiors aren't so great (Too many conflicting textures maybe?). The character animation is good for the most part, except sometimes they look like living china dolls or something like that.

+I happen to like the music. Nothing outstanding, but certain areas do stand out. I was just replaying Lost Odyssey and this music certainly doesn't compare to that, but it's still good.

+ Some of the fastest load times in an RPG that I've played in quite some time.

+/- The story and characters are a mixed bag. The overall consensus is that they're not great (mediocre at best) and so I think this might be a case where I set my standards so low in this department that I'm somewhat pleasantly surprised. The characters aren't as annoying as I was expecting (in fact they're all pretty enjoyable...even the little girl I just got is kind of cute, though that may wear off), the dialogue isn't great, but not as cheesy as I'd been hearing, and the cutscenes can be awkward (cutting from scene to scene is always abrupt). But all in all I'm enjoying the ride so far and the pacing is definitely faster than SO3..which is a good thing.

- The menu interface for me is a bit hard to read. Maybe it's my TV (I do have an SDTV), but the words get kind of lost against the background. I got used to it pretty fast, so not a big deal.

- The camera. I don't like it. The first hour I was thinking I couldn't stand it. But then somewhere along the way I got used to it and it stopped bothering me. In the open areas it's hardly a problem, but I do still find it bugging me a little bit in smaller spaces (like the interior of ships and such)

Voice acting isn't good, but it's not bad. So it's just kind of there.

Overall I'm enjoying it so far and the fun factor seems to just keep ramping up the further I get in, which is a good sign.
 
PepsimanVsJoe said:
I can't hate on a character that heals and does some insane rolling evades. Besides I think she's cute(no-pedo).

Her visual design is kind of cute. Her character is awful. The acting is even worse. Can't wait until I get someone to swap out for her.
 
Got the game last night, only had 30min playtime though due to lack of sleep...may play tonight.

With this and Halo Wars, i'm starved for time to play... : (
 
So, re: the bad story/characters/writing/voice-acting, is it just *bad* or is it *so bad it's good* material? I mean, Eternal Sonata and Last Remnant - for example - have absolutely atrocious stories and characters, and that's exactly why I enjoyed them (for the wrong reasons). Is SO4 in that category?

Re: pacing, how do people find the pacing in dungeons? I'm not too worried about the pacing of the actual battles, since it sounds like battles should end quickly enough, and loading of battles is a non-issue.
 
All the dungeons (or dungeon-like areas) I've been in are relatively easy and quick to get through. If you want to find all/most of the stuff around, it might be a little confusing, but it's been fine for me so far.
 
Llyranor said:
So, re: the bad story/characters/writing/voice-acting, is it just *bad* or is it *so bad it's good* material? I mean, Eternal Sonata and Last Remnant - for example - have absolutely atrocious stories and characters, and that's exactly why I enjoyed them (for the wrong reasons). Is SO4 in that category?

Re: pacing, how do people find the pacing in dungeons? I'm not too worried about the pacing of the actual battles, since it sounds like battles should end quickly enough, and loading of battles is a non-issue.

No, its not that bad. Honestly, I think the story is fine and so is the voice acting. Lym is annoying, as is Welch but that's about it.
 
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