Wil Wheaton said on his blog (if I remember correctly - it was in the article about his beef with Shatner) that the whole male cast on TNG wore "muscle suits" under their uniforms.
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Wil Wheaton said on his blog (if I remember correctly - it was in the article about his beef with Shatner) that the whole male cast on TNG wore "muscle suits" under their uniforms.
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Doesn't change the fact that Riker is a lady killer (sometimes vaporizer.)
Escape Goat
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Is that why they tug at their uniforms all the time?
DragonSworne
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Mmmm amazon black Friday deal better be all over these releases.
Just finished Encounter at Farpoint.
Wat can I say? I looks stunning.
The only thing that threw me off for the first couple of minutes was the audio, especially with the prologue to the episode.
Been so used to the stereo sound that it sounded very off when hearing this new mix.
But I'm happy to say that that weird side effect disappeared extremely quickly.
Just finished watching the "taking the next generation to the next level" documentary, and I'm in awe of the task they have decided to take upon themselves to restore the series in a way that is basically perfect.
Dabbling in restoration of old materials myself, I am that much more appreciative of the countless hours that go into all this. Especially since when they do their jobs well, it's hard to notice, or even impossible to see that anything has been reworked in any shape or form.
Luckily they let us take a glimpse of their box of tricks.
Paid a little over 60 for the first season on Amazon UK, and looking at how the original DVDs went for around 90 or more back in the day, I regard this as a bargain.
Really hope this is a big success and all the hard work is rewarded in the end, so we can look forward to Deep Space 9 as well as Voyager in the coming years.
Wat can I say? I looks stunning.
The only thing that threw me off for the first couple of minutes was the audio, especially with the prologue to the episode.
Been so used to the stereo sound that it sounded very off when hearing this new mix.
But I'm happy to say that that weird side effect disappeared extremely quickly.
Just finished watching the "taking the next generation to the next level" documentary, and I'm in awe of the task they have decided to take upon themselves to restore the series in a way that is basically perfect.
Dabbling in restoration of old materials myself, I am that much more appreciative of the countless hours that go into all this. Especially since when they do their jobs well, it's hard to notice, or even impossible to see that anything has been reworked in any shape or form.
Luckily they let us take a glimpse of their box of tricks.
Paid a little over 60 for the first season on Amazon UK, and looking at how the original DVDs went for around 90 or more back in the day, I regard this as a bargain.
Really hope this is a big success and all the hard work is rewarded in the end, so we can look forward to Deep Space 9 as well as Voyager in the coming years.
Gary Whitta
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It's tough to call Farpoint a good episode but it's fascinating from a historical perspective to see those characters at the beginning, in many ways they are so different from the ones we eventually came to know. Picard and Data in particular seem they were still being figured out.
Escape Goat
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Data had a lot of human inflections. He often made emotional facial expressions and the occasional contraction slips out.
TriniTrin
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Guess ill be waiting for the version2 of this, Can they patch movies like games? lol
planar1280
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And a comparison (the DVD doesn't look that shitty, but it should give a pretty good idea of the improvement):
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/94084
Hold on, are you telling me dr crusher comes back after leaving at the end of season 1???????
I just started watching the series
Skellig Gra
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Concerning those audio problem the reviewer speaks of, that's actually not what I was talking about.
Have to be honest and say that I didn't even notice anything being wrong with the audio.
The only thing that threw me off was the difference from the DVD quality stereo sound to the 7.1 uncompressed dts track, and only when I heard it for the very first time.
Tried it again just now and it sounds perfectly fine.
Must be akin to starting up a 32-bit 3D game after playing months or even years of nothing but current gen games. Bit of a shock for the first couple of minutes, but perfectly fine after that.
Have to be honest and say that I didn't even notice anything being wrong with the audio.
The only thing that threw me off was the difference from the DVD quality stereo sound to the 7.1 uncompressed dts track, and only when I heard it for the very first time.
Tried it again just now and it sounds perfectly fine.
Must be akin to starting up a 32-bit 3D game after playing months or even years of nothing but current gen games. Bit of a shock for the first couple of minutes, but perfectly fine after that.
Gary Whitta
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Yeah weirdly he actually seems more like Lore in these early eps.
Yes she's gone for S2 and replaced by the godawful Pulaski, then back for the rest of the series.
planar1280
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No wonder ep1 season2 with alien penetrating troi and i already dont like the new doctor
Good to hear its only for season 2. It's been a long time since I watched the DVDs and thought she was there longer than that.
Certainly not one of my favourite characters on the show to put it mildly...
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DrForester
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I still think Pulaski was better than Crusher. Still not a great character, but Crusher was just boring. I'll take a Bones knock-off over Dr. Crusher.
Also, Sub-Rosa.
Also, Sub-Rosa.
Escape Goat
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Seconded.
Gary Whitta
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Ugh, and I use to have so much respect for you, too!
I don't think Crusher was a great character. But Pulaski was TERRIBLE, and part of the reasn why is she was such a brazen (and failed) attempt to copy McCoy.
Escape Goat
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She was the only character outside of Picard, Data, Worf that had any distinguishable personality. Everyone else was so vanilla.
Just kidding. I couldn't resist using a Picard facepalm in a Star Trek thread. Yeah, Crusher returns as the doctor for the rest of the series. She's usually in the background but some interesting stuff does happen to her in later seasons.
I gotta disagree. Pulaski makes my skin crawl. She was so pompous and bitter all the time. I wouldn't want her as my doctor. Crusher on the other hand knows how to actually show sympathy and empathy for others. Yeah, she was certainly a weak character (especially compared to the rest of the cast) but at least she didn't annoy me.
Sub-Rosa was is an abomination of an episode but is that really her character's fault? I put that more on the whims of a crazy writer.
Some more memorable Crusher specific episodes I can think of that I enjoyed were:
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Best Crusher episode was clearly
Oh, wait, Sub Rosa already mentioned.
I'd probably be a lot more excited about the Blu-Rays if I hadn't just finished watching the whole series about six months ago; I'm halfway through DS9 now. Screenshots look killer, though, I'll give them that.
the one where she has sex with a ghost at her grandma's house
Oh, wait, Sub Rosa already mentioned.
I'd probably be a lot more excited about the Blu-Rays if I hadn't just finished watching the whole series about six months ago; I'm halfway through DS9 now. Screenshots look killer, though, I'll give them that.
Gary Whitta
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Yes, it was McCoy's, but not written as well. Her blatant racism against Data was so clumsy and bolted-on.
thetrin
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It's not just mishandled, it also makes her extremely unlikable. It also makes little sense. I THOUGHT THEY GOT RID OF BIGOTRY IN THE FUTURE!
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She had personality. Too bad it just sucked.
No, I hated Pulaski in the show. Crusher fit the feel of the cast so much more, and I was so glad to see her come back.
Gary Whitta
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That episode where her and Picard are captured and chained together by cerebral implants is kinda cool.
I was always pissed she didn't die on that planet with accelerated aging. One of these days when I watch that episode, I hope she will die this time. Terrible thought I know, but I really hated her character. I agree with what someone else said, in that she didn't seem to have much empathy. Particularly in comparison with crusher. What was the reason she took over for season 2 anyways?
Gary Whitta
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What I particularly like about that episode is how they basically discover the secret of eternal youth via transporter technology and then immediately forget about it. I think there are a few episodes like that, Rascals and the one where Worf becomes a prehistoric fish-Klingon if memory serves.
Pulaski was a terrible character. They wanted to try and develop a new Bones character but Bones wasnt an asshole who looked down on people for being different like Pulaski and Data. Bones would give Spock a hardtime but it wasnt being an asshole it was a friend giving another friend a hardtime.
There was no such Friendship between Data and Pulaski so it was pure assholeness on her characters part. I would like to think it was Pulaskis character that helped them realize that they didnt need another TOS cast reborn going forward. a cast of new unque personalities was ok
There was no such Friendship between Data and Pulaski so it was pure assholeness on her characters part. I would like to think it was Pulaskis character that helped them realize that they didnt need another TOS cast reborn going forward. a cast of new unque personalities was ok
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Gary Whitta
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Yeah Brad and I watched it together and were equally blown away. It's like watching an entirely new show, it seriously looks like they just shot it yesterday. Amazing.
I can't wait to watch it. How did you like season 1? I actually watched a bit of it on Netflix the other day and I still really like it. Will was really down on it, but I think it's still pretty solid.
Gary Whitta
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Totally agree, it's like they wanted their own version of McCoy - which is fine in principle - but they had absolutely no understanding of what made McCoy great and so you ended up with this totally tin-eared version where his curmudgeonly, red-blooded nature got twisted into this pissy, know-it-all racist.
I can't honestly say it's a good show in that first season (or the second) but as a fan it's fascinating to see the early episodes just from a historical perspective, to see the show in its early form before it would become the show it ultimately did. It feels much more like an extension of TOS in those early eps. And since I have mostly avoided re-watching the first two seasons a lot of the episodes felt fresh to me as I'd mostly forgotten them - and like I said it feels even more new because of the spectacular remastering.
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I think Pulaski was better, but I really disliked them both. Only think as bad would probably be S1 Bashir.
Agree with that. She had no real relationship with the rest of the cast, she was just... there. Bone's worked becasue of his relationship with the other characters. Despite their arguments, Bones and Spock were still friends.
My issue with Crusher was more that she had no real role in the show. The relationship with Picard was very uneven, and didn't really have a pay off. Similar thoughts for Troi as well. Geordi was almost as bad, but at least he was a foil for Data's development for 7 years.
Gary Whitta
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Fortunately I don't think I will ever subject myself to early Bashir, or early DS9, again. Any future DS9 rewatches (I plan one soon) will be from the start of the Dominion War only.
UNLESS - what's the one where they go back to the abandoned Cardassian station and Garak starts losing his shit? I have really fond memories of that episode.
UNLESS - what's the one where they go back to the abandoned Cardassian station and Garak starts losing his shit? I have really fond memories of that episode.
Well, if memory serves, a large amount (majority?) of the S1 scripts were apparently reworked scripts that were going to be in the Star Trek: Phase 2 series that got cancelled in favor of making the first movie. So, it's not really surprising that they have a very TOS vibe, and they were probably reworked only just enough to work and so weren't really great for showcasing the new characters.
I also can't blame them for Pulaski too terribly much, I'm not sure how much notice they had of the casting change, since McFadden (Crusher) was always rumored to have left because of a harassment issue, and apparently agreed to return when the crew member involved was no longer on the show.
I also can't blame them for Pulaski too terribly much, I'm not sure how much notice they had of the casting change, since McFadden (Crusher) was always rumored to have left because of a harassment issue, and apparently agreed to return when the crew member involved was no longer on the show.
Gary Whitta
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Yeah, stuff like Q and the weird Space Africans in Episode 2 all have a very TOS feel. It's not just the scripts though but the whole production design. S1 TNG has a very cheesy TOS-like look with all the planet exteriors being fairly obvious and bad sets with fake skies and foam-rubber rocks. Remember Skin of Evil? LOL. I think they only very rarely used real locations in that first season and it wasn't until later that they stopped using sets for planets altogether.
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Season 1 had Duet...
Gary Whitta
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I can see myself rewatching it all but for that I think I would want to wait for a Blu-ray remaster - but I don't know if they'll ever do that unless the TNG sets are MASSIVE successes because DS9 doesn't have anything like the level of popular appeal that TNG does.
DrForester
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I would imagine it gets easier and cheaper the newer the show is though. DS9 probably needs far less work than TNG did. Voyager would need even less, and Enterprise was shot in HD (I think).
I still think DS9 early seasons are worth it, just for the great set up. And I'd say DS9 has a pretty good first season compared to other Trek series.
Gary Whitta
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It's unfortunate that the easier the sets get to do the less interest I have him.
DrForester
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Yeah, well other than DS9, which I love. I might buy a Voyager Blu-Ray release, but I can't see me getting an Enterprise one unless it's via a price glitch like I did with Enterprise DVD's.
Gary Whitta
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I would get DS9 too, but not Voyager. The only kind of price glitch that would convince me to get Enterprise would be one that deposits vast amounts of money into my account.
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