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Lettuce said:
Is it just me or are the air crafts on the Naboo level completely worthless, you cant make out any enemies on the ground and the crafts seem to be too fast to do any bombing runs or spot anyone to shot at all!. It might be worthwhile if the enemies on the ground had a red silhouette around them so they are easier to spot or lower the crafts speed even more.

It would probably be better on that map to remove all air base crafts all together and add in some more ground base crafts as the map is just too small
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It's harder than the first game. Although I play on Xbox One, which doesn't help. Hope the X helps out in that regard.
 
border said:
Is the roster big enough now that we can have Heroes vs Villains with ONLY heroes and villains? Like, I'm not going to have to spawn as a regular stormtrooper anymore am I?
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Yes, Heroes vs Villains is hero units only now. There's 7 on each side at launch IIRC?

Edit: Sweet fucking Jesus I want to be on the winning Assault team ONCE in GA. I want to be in whatever lobbies or games you guys are playing, I seriously have only seen the attackers win on Theed like 4 times since the day the beta came out, and I've never been on that team. It fucking sucks. I was just in a game where we got the MTT like 80% of the way with 73(?) health and they took it down to fucking 10 before the MTT blew the doors. I want to virtually throttle my teammates.
 
Lettuce said:
Is it just me or are the air crafts on the Naboo level completely worthless, you cant make out any enemies on the ground and the crafts seem to be too fast to do any bombing runs or spot anyone to shot at all!. It might be worthwhile if the enemies on the ground had a red silhouette around them so they are easier to spot or lower the crafts speed even more.

It would probably be better on that map to remove all air base crafts all together and add in some more ground base crafts as the map is just too small
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That's one of my complaints about the game. I hopped into the gunship thinking it would be like the Scariff one in BF1 where you could see people running around and actually have a chance at getting some kills. Nope. The laser is almost worthless. I say "almost" because it looks cool when you are on the ground. But other than the fancy light show, it is essentially harmless.

The ships, too, do nothing at all other than meaningless dogfighting. They contribute absolutely nothing towards the objective.
 
Lettuce said:
Shame theres no Death Star 1 map or the space scene from Phantom Menace for Starfighter assault mode.
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The Ryloth Map involves attacking the same type of Battleship from the Phantom Menace.

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MegaSackman said:
Thx to VonGreckler on the maps info, that pretty much sold me.
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Yeah no problem, I won't lie, I'm nervous about the loot crate implementation, but the Starfighter controls and objectives are so improved I probably won't be able to pass up the game. Not spending a dime on any crates though.
 
Ulong said:
The first game had a lot of customization of your soldier appearance didn't it? I'm not seeing that in this one at all, at least the beta.
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I really liked this in the first game as well, I would have thought this would be in the full game, but I think the chances of them all locked in loot-boxes is high so you won't know what you are going to get :/
 
VonGreckler said:
Yeah no problem, I won't lie, I'm nervous about the loot crate implementation, but the Starfighter controls and objectives are so improved I probably won't be able to pass up the game. Not spending a dime on any crates though.
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Me neither but I never play games on such a competetive state to worry about in game power ups differences. I'll deal with what I'm being given.
 
VonGreckler said:
The Ryloth Map involves attacking the same type of Battleship from the Phantom Menace.

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Yeah no problem, I won't lie, I'm nervous about the loot crate implementation, but the Starfighter controls and objectives are so improved I probably won't be able to pass up the game. Not spending a dime on any crates though.
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ah cool
 
Darth Smurf X said:
That's one of my complaints about the game. I hopped into the gunship thinking it would be like the Scariff one in BF1 where you could see people running around and actually have a chance at getting some kills. Nope. The laser is almost worthless. I say "almost" because it looks cool when you are on the ground. But other than the fancy light show, it is essentially harmless.

The ships, too, do nothing at all other than meaningless dogfighting. They contribute absolutely nothing towards the objective.
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Yeah I noticed this in the alpha too. I've never been killed by a ship and never gotten a kill. They just seem pointless in that map.
 
Darth Smurf X said:
That's one of my complaints about the game. I hopped into the gunship thinking it would be like the Scariff one in BF1 where you could see people running around and actually have a chance at getting some kills. Nope. The laser is almost worthless. I say "almost" because it looks cool when you are on the ground. But other than the fancy light show, it is essentially harmless.

The ships, too, do nothing at all other than meaningless dogfighting. They contribute absolutely nothing towards the objective.
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I thought that using the gunship to damage the MTT was the way to go but its only vulnerable for such a short amount of time that it doesnt seem like that is the intention for it at all....so I have no idea what its used for.

I tried it a few times to see if I could figure out a use but nope, most of the time you dont have an angle to attack other fighters and you cant see shit on the ground.
 
Posted in the Eurogamer thread.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBa...spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/

The youtubers are judging the betas skewed progression system as the full game. They haven’t seen the kamino build leak where there are challenges that act as hutt bounties, individual crates for each class that eliminates the problem with not being able to focus on one class and many more tweaks. They started this massive circle jerk that will never go away even after launch. They started it without having all the details and I hate the state of this misinformed sub. I’m going post by post trying to spread this news. Wish me luck!


Sadly this pic of the latest respawn screen is my only proof to what I saw, I have the dark side hero spawn as well just give me a sec. There was a video of the crate system and I’ll break it down since it got removed. anyone who saw it as well, please vouch for me.

So to start off, there were more than 3 types of crates in the full game leak

StarFighter- random starfighter cards

Trooper- random trooper card, emote or weapon/part or mvp pose

Allegiance - random hero or trooper card, emote , weapon/weapon part

Assault - only assault cards,weapons mvp pose and parts

Heavy- only heavy cards,weapons mvp pose and parts

Officer- only officer cards,weapons mvp pose and parts

Specialist- only specialist cards,weapons mvp pose and parts.


These are the crates we are getting come launch. This gives us more choice as to what we want to focus on and level up.

There will also be a lot more challenges than what we saw in the beta. These challenges have more crates as rewards but will be more streamlined and guranteed like the “Starter crates” we saw from the beta. They will have basically everything from weapons, cards and weapon parts, to emotes, skins, and extra credits/scrap. There are still P2W elements in this game regardless of this news, but as you can see it’s not game breaking Pay to win, it’s just *“Pay to Win faster”.*

Edit:[here’s more proof to what I saw, here’s the dark side heroes.](https://imgur.com/a/2Peqs) I wish I screenshotted the actual crate screen so I wouldn’t have to seem shady but this is what I have and I hope you believe me. If not wait till launch and see if I was right or not, regardless we shouldn’t resort to anarchy and bullying of those who don’t agree with others. I’m just here to provide information that is being overlooked

EDIT2: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBa...s_promised_cellphone/?st=J8KJWZ12&sh=4b95844f found the actual leak, thanks everyone who let me know that it’s still up on YouTube
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Progression only via crates really sucks, but at least later builds aren't as bad as the beta is with it.
 
Does anyone know if Rey's Mind Trick goes through walls? In general I can't seem to get anyone with it, at least that I can tell. Just had a great run with her, maaan she is squishy though.
 
SG-17 said:
Posted in the Eurogamer thread.
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Steps in the right direction where at least you can open boxes for the class you want to progress in. (Should do the same for starfighter classes)
Still hoping the speed in which you get credits in the final game is not terrible.

Voidwolf said:
The issue is progression only being tied to crates. They need to tie it to ranks, levels, and challenges on top of letting people gamble on crates.
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Hoping for challenges that give guaranteed drops, like the starter crates in the beta. Like reach Rank X and get gun X as a guaranteed crate drop.
 
The card system coming from loot boxes as the primary way to affect player progression and provide new weapons/specials/abilities/etc is just so incredibly backwards and broken I am stunned that this is what they ended up with. It's not like BF1's progression system is very good compared to a call of duty, but at least it is primarily play enough and complete a a few challenges and you will unlock everything, not essentially randomized.

That and the terrible class/abilities/weapon balance is totally turning me off of a game I REALLY want to like.
 
Voidwolf said:
The issue is progression only being tied to crates. They need to tie it to ranks, levels, and challenges on top of letting people gamble on crates.
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The Reddit post mentioned challenges being a direct way to earn stuff.

But not having a basic unlock via ranking system is really stupid.
 
Seriously, just give us Battlefront 2015's gun unlocks at various levels (now at class levels) and let us level up our classes by actually playing them. And tie the better Star Cards to Hutt Contracts so that players have to complete challenges for them. Bam. Done.
 
Before I say anything, I know I'm in the wrong but I'm getting fucking game rage lol. 8/10 games, my (always resistance) team is full of GI Joes, none of whom play the objectives.

I can see why though with no incentive...
 
SG-17 said:
Posted in the Eurogamer thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBa...spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/

Progression only via crates really sucks, but at least later builds aren't as bad as the beta is with it.
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Then they should push out another BETA to give everyone a better Idea of the full game, there is no point saying 'its different in the full game' people are pulling pre-orders and saying they would be getting this on the back of playing the BETA, EA/DICE only need to look at what happened with the Forza 7 release for VIP's who had early access, if there are still issues on Battlefront 2 for the people who have the edition on order that gives early access to the game, it will be bigger than the Forza 7 reaction, this BETA has damaged the game, it's no good saying nothing or saying the full game is different, nobody is going to believe them and risk $60/£45 on the game.
 
HellforLeather said:
You still level up your class with experience, no? Although, judging from the beta, it just looks like it unlocks card slots for your loadout.
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There are still levels based on experience. It definitely progresses the class by unlocking star card slots and I think attachment slots. I'm not sure if there is any depth there at all. Scrap is another progression mechanism in the more that you earn through playing the more stuff you can build.

I won't pretend I'm happy about this system, as I think they could have found a better way, but I'm ecstatic the community won't be split by DLC. I hope that it's successful enough that DICE/EA decide not to go back to paid DLC packs in the next Battlefield.
 
Ouff progression basically just being unlocking an RNG crate, and nothing else is a huge turn off. I like leveling up, and unlocking things on the way.. Review thread should be interesting.
 
Guys... please tell me that there will be an easy way to play with friends in the final game. Because it's pretty much impossible in the beta, and if it's not any better than BF2015, I'm definitely going to have to pass on this game.
 
Mass Effect said:
Guys... please tell me that there will be an easy way to play with friends in the final game. Because it's pretty much impossible in the beta, and if it's not any better than BF2015, I'm definitely going to have to pass on this game.
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Depends what you mean by "easy"? There are no squads but you can party with each other and go into the same game and recognize each other via the green outline around your friends.
 
this fucking game. I take my time getting to a point and i get the drop on a guy and im shooting and then he just drops me like nothing.

Rage quit after 5 minutes.....
 
Darth Smurf X said:
That's one of my complaints about the game. I hopped into the gunship thinking it would be like the Scariff one in BF1 where you could see people running around and actually have a chance at getting some kills. Nope. The laser is almost worthless. I say "almost" because it looks cool when you are on the ground. But other than the fancy light show, it is essentially harmless.

The ships, too, do nothing at all other than meaningless dogfighting. They contribute absolutely nothing towards the objective.
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Hey, speak for yourself! I got 1 point of player damage!
 
SG-17 said:
Posted in the Eurogamer thread.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBa...spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/



Progression only via crates really sucks, but at least later builds aren't as bad as the beta is with it.
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Can you prove this? Can the person on Reddit prove it?

They managed to get a couple screenshots just not of the loot crates.

There was a massive thread a couple weeks ago on Reddit where some dude was claiming it wasn't P2W and called some other guy out as a liar, this "liar" was in the Alpha and he's been warning of the P2W model for quite some time apparently. Now alpha guy is banned as a result of that false thread calling him out. Unless I see video proof, the only place I trust for leaks is GAF.
 
Valar Morghulis said:
Can you prove this? Can the person on Reddit prove it?

They managed to get a couple screenshots just not of the loot crates.

There was a massive thread a couple weeks ago on Reddit where some dude was claiming it wasn't P2W and called some other dude out as a liar, a guy who was in the Alpha and he's been warning of the P2W model for quite some time apparently. Now he's banned. Unless I see video proof, the only place I trust for leaks is GAF.
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Of course they can't prove it, it's a "leak". "It's totally an old system guys, 6 months old! It works totally different in the real version of the game!"
 
timewyrm said:
Before I say anything, I know I'm in the wrong but I'm getting fucking game rage lol. 8/10 games, my (always resistance) team is full of GI Joes, none of whom play the objectives.

I can see why though with no incentive...
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My friends and I played some Galactic Assault which is a bit tepid and uninteresting until the end. Maybe I should blame the map?

So I said, "Hey, fuck Naboo and these lame droids, let's check out that Strike mode."

A few rounds after that we all rage quit together.

Anyway, the loot crates and progression is definitely awful but the shooting and movement feels like shit and the maps in the beta did not impress.

I did think Starfightet Assault was kinda cool but I wouldn't buy the game for it.
 
Kane1345 said:
Depends what you mean by "easy"? There are no squads but you can party with each other and go into the same game and recognize each other via the green outline around your friends.
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We tried that, but we kept getting put in different games after a single match. It's virtually impossible to stay together.

Not to mention it's hard to get 4 of us in the same match because a couple of us will get stuck in queues.
 
Valar Morghulis said:
Can you prove this? Can the person on Reddit prove it?

They managed to get a couple screenshots just not of the loot crates.

There was a massive thread a couple weeks ago on Reddit where some dude was claiming it wasn't P2W and called some other guy out as a liar, this "liar" was in the Alpha and he's been warning of the P2W model for quite some time apparently. Now alpha guy is banned as a result of that false thread calling him out. Unless I see video proof, the only place I trust for leaks is GAF.
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I watched the Kamino videos when they were and remember seeing Assault and Heavy crates.
 
If you party up, is there anyway to tell where your party members are in Starfighter mode? on ground missions they're usually green, but we couldn't find each in other in space combat. It was truly annoying.
 
Seriously confused, booted one game earlier. Came back tonight and it wouldn't let me skip the intro, rebooted console, hard powered off, its like once the beta boots it doesn't recognize controller inputs once booted. Cleared saved data, now I get the terms agreement again and it won't let me scroll through that or accept.

Moved the game from external to internal to no change. now in the process of doing a complete reinstall, on Xbox one

Edit finally fixed this bullshit, disconnect your Kinect if your having this issue
 
GodfatherX said:
Seriously confused, booted one game earlier. Came back tonight and it wouldn't let me skip the intro, rebooted console, hard powered off, its like once the beta boots it doesn't recognize controller inputs once booted. Cleared saved data, now I get the terms agreement again and it won't let me scroll through that or accept.

Moved the game from external to internal to no change. now in the process of doing a complete reinstall, on Xbox one

Edit finally fixed this bullshit, disconnect your Kinect if your having this issue
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It's a serious bug. For me restarting the game has fixed it, but it comes back.
 
timewyrm said:
Before I say anything, I know I'm in the wrong but I'm getting fucking game rage lol. 8/10 games, my (always resistance) team is full of GI Joes, none of whom play the objectives.

I can see why though with no incentive...
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Isn't the incentive, winning?
 
Really on the fence about getting this. Having a ton of fun and putting a lot of time into the beta but the iOS game lootbox progression system in a $60 title is a really tough pill to swallow.
 
RoboPlato said:
Really on the fence about getting this. Having a ton of fun and putting a lot of time into the beta but the iOS game lootbox progression system in a $60 title is a really tough pill to swallow.
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It's a pay 2 win game, I cancelled my pre-order 2 days ago. I will not support this BS.
 
The Naboo map is objectively a pile of shit, the 16 player map is OK, but got damn at that space battle! I would definitely take a space only standalone game, that shit is fantastic! I will probably end up getting this game despite the loot boxes just for the single player and space combat.
 
Hari Seldon said:
The Naboo map is objectively a pile of shit, the 16 player map is OK, but got damn at that space battle! I would definitely take a space only standalone game, that shit is fantastic! I will probably end up getting this game despite the loot boxes just for the single player and space combat.
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We are of the same mind. After finally giving up on Theed, I've just been playing Starfighter Assault nonstop. It's so fun.
 
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