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Star Wars Expanded Universe |OT| A Neu Hope
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Jables Swan
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Most definitely. Come check out the OT and join in the discussion. It's a little bit quiet atm, but the more the merrier. Star Wars Rebels |OT|
I might pick it up as well. But i'm more interested in the books/comics/other material that covers the non-movie periods of time.
Give us some post-RotJ books please!
This is going to be interesting for sure since not only will they be giving us stuff for the Force Awakens period (immediately before, during and after it) but there is now a 30 year period in between to explore since the old EU is Legends now.
Hope they are cooking up some good stuff.
RunWhiteBoyRun
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I think I'm missing why people have an issue with the description of the new book?
mar·tial
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adjective: martial
of or appropriate to war; warlike.
"martial bravery"
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mar·tial
adjective
adjective: martial
of or appropriate to war; warlike.
"martial bravery"
synonyms: military, soldierly, soldier-like, army, naval; More
People are interpreting it as Vader and Sidious going hand-to-hand with their lightsabers against a small army I suppose, which feels a bit funny since we're so used to them being in these tense, dramatic battles of a more intimate nature and not on a battlefield slicing through one after another. Also I think the word "awesome" is conjuring up mental images of Prequel Trilogy style combat and a lot of people don't like thinking of those two characters partaking in it?
Not saying I agree with those assessments, just my interpretation of the reactions.
BTW, Clone Wars Spoilers:
Not saying I agree with those assessments, just my interpretation of the reactions.
BTW, Clone Wars Spoilers:
It's canon, deal with it haters!
unholyrevenger72
Banned
If people want to see what Palpatines skills are beyond his stupid Episode 3 Combat "O" faces are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg
Gambit 1138
Banned
Clone Wars is at the mercy of Star War's owners. If just one Disney executive someday decides he/she doesn't like the show it will become non canon to make way for something else. Just remember that...always.
omnislayer
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I still cringed when he begged though. That was...that was just not cool. I could never picture Maul doing that.
The only CN Star Wars show I liked was this one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3VB_vjVxcic
It also showed how really badass General Grievous and made me incredibly pissed what the prequels did to GG.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WIj7gIDFDe4
Never got into the Clone Wars show. It just didn't look appealing at all compared to that other one.
A wuss? Why, because he lost to the most powerful dark side force user in the galaxy? Of course he'd get his ass handed to him... he didn't fare too bad, honestly.What the...they made Maul into a total wuss.
I don't accept it.
Maul's head isn't totally in the right place anyway since his return. If you watched the series you'd see how he's mentally more fragile than before, so to see him cowering at the end of the battle doesn't feel out of place to me.
I don't know what they ultimately intended for him, but I feel like they'd have him showdown with Obi-Wan again and lose a second time. May sound contrived but it's the most satisfying way for him to go, IMO. Obi-Wan must finish what he thought he finished the first time.
What's the alternative? Have Anakin kill him? Or maybe Vader, if Maul were to survive long enough? It just wouldn't be the same. Obi-Wan deserves that kill.
Maybe it's for the best that his death is up in the air. They could totally do an Obi-Wan stand alone film that takes place between Episode III and IV where Maul, in hiding for some years following the Son of Dathomir comic series, finally tracks Obi Wan down on Tattooine and they have their final showdown.
Disney doesn't manage the content, Lucasfilm does. Disney has a very long history of being hands-off with their subsidiaries like Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, etc. Lucasfilm will very likely never de-canonize the work of their creator. They even released a press release in May calling The Clone Wars an "immovable object" in canon that every future piece of media will always have to adhere to. The Lucas era canon is very sacred at Lucasfilm.
I mean your post is just as likely as wording it this way:
"Avengers: Age of Ultron is at the mercy of Marvel's owners. If just one Disney executive someday decides he/she doesn't like the movie it will become non canon to make way for something else. Just remember that...always."
It's silly. It is 100% canon on the same level as the 6 current films and there is zero indication that will change.
Could that change? Of course but Disney could de-canonize the entire current MCU or de-canonize Empire Strikes Back. What is important is The Clone Wars right now at Lucasfilm post-Disney purchase is seen as equal in canon as the films. And so the current state is the events that happened in the show as just as relevant as those that happened in the films.
Gambit 1138
Banned
You don't know what your talking about. This "hands off" approach is a very recent thing that Bob Iger has been implementing. I suggest you read up on how the former CEO Michael Eisner micromanaged everything and how many people left because they didn't want to deal with creative differences with Disney management. Lucasfilm is a 100% owned subsidiary of Disney and when the next CEO comes in within the next 3 years and decides to put an executive team in charge to have better oversight of the lucasfilm division that is their perogative.
It doesn't matter that Lucasfilm is at this time saying its an "immovable object". Lucas himself oversaw many other projects from the ewoks movies to the original clone wars cartoon to even stuff like Shadows of the Empire and Force Unleashed and those were all deemed non canon on a whim. If somebody pitches an idea to Disney that would contradict the prequels or clone wars but Disney felt could make hundreds of millions of dollars they will once again go back and change the canon in favor of the newer project. It's no different than what Marvel, DC and dozens of other companies have done over the years.
I think what you have to understand is that many of us are just sick and tired of talking about the prequels (and its related media) and just want to go back to a time when Star Wars was good. Thankfully Disney seems to be obliging.
No. It's him begging for his life that made me dislike it. Maul begging for his life is like the Exile from KOTOR 2 getting stabbed in the ba-Oh wait...
CURSE YOU SWTOR!!!!!!!!!
That head not in the right place shouldn't be an excuse for how much of a wuss they turned him into. It's almost as bad as what they did to General Grievious in Episode 3. Going from a bad ass to some slower looking droid that looks like he's fighting lung cancer.
The point is it is silly to even make the point you initially did because someone could just as well come in and pitch a film to contradict Empire Strikes Back as well. What we have is what we know right now. And that is official Lucasfilm policy post-Disney purchase is to have Episodes I, II, III, IV, IV, V, VI as well as The Clone Wars all on the same level of canon as the base all future stories must adhere to. So at least for the foreseeable future the Clone Wars is as vital of a element to the franchise as any of the films, Prequel or Original and thus anything that happened in it shouldn't be lightly dismissed and will likely continue to be part of the overall star wars discussions.
Nope, it's done.
Wiktor
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SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
The only thing you can expect from the Old Republic Era are new SWTOR expansions. Other than that the old EU is prety much done.
Gambit 1138
Banned
old EU stuff is already leaking into the new EU though. Some stuff from the novel Plagueis is in the new Tarkin novel and that goofy villain from Star Wars Droids is canon again as well.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Clone Wars is pretty good.
Loved the Darth Maul & Savage Opress versus Darth Sidious fight.
Loved the Darth Maul & Savage Opress versus Darth Sidious fight.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Also, I hope they ditch SW:TORO and start working on a new Star Wars MMO.
Would love to see a Star Wars Galaxies 2 that takes place after the new trilogy.
Would love to see a Star Wars Galaxies 2 that takes place after the new trilogy.
A Human Becoming
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Any comics that should be added to the OP?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Don't expect this anytime soon. SWTOR is actually generating profit for EA and they plan to support it for years.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Yeah, the Star Wars, Darth Vader and Leia comics could be added. Star Wars #1 is out on the 14th January.
I suppose it's not officially part of the canon but I just read Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison for the first time and really enjoyed it. The ending was brilliant.
old EU stuff is already leaking into the new EU though. Some stuff from the novel Plagueis is in the new Tarkin novel and that goofy villain from Star Wars Droids is canon again as well.
Why does this look so much like Bask Ohm from Zeta Gundam
old EU stuff is already leaking into the new EU though. Some stuff from the novel Plagueis is in the new Tarkin novel and that goofy villain from Star Wars Droids is canon again as well.
I have never even heard of this character, or the cartoon he had spawn from. He looks like the product of a dehydrated orange & a potato that had got it on one New Years Eve.
You make me sad.
The game is actually down compared to last year.
That said, they just released the Shadow of Revan expansion in December and might see some increase, though it's too early to really tell financially.
A Human Becoming
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Star Wars: Darth MaulSon of Dathomir should be added too because it was made using a script from Clone Wars.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Just read the first issue from the new SW comic.
are now officially canon.
Lightwhips
Sectorseven
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Alternate weapons kind of make sense. There are races even in the prequels that lightsabers are clearly not the ideal weapon for and could even pose them more of a hazard.
Callibretto
Member
just wondering, does Kotor games and the ToR mmo canon? isn't there rumor that StarWars 7 will have something about Revan (not sure though, I try too avoid SW7 news) and I only know Revan from Kotor and that there's Revan update for the MMO.
After lucasarts was bought by Disney everything was purged except for the movies and the clone wars that was currently airing at the same time which they were kinda forcing them to end prematurely making season 6 only on netflix. They wanted to roll out their new show Rebels.
So, all the previous comics, books, games (kotor and jedi knight are in this also) are purged. Only things that stayed are things mentioned or shown in the movies, cartoons, the new books and comics that are coming out.
Everything else is now in the category of Legends. EU is officially called Legends and the new canon timeline may take what they want from the Legends category and make their own story with bits and pieces if they so wish.
The Revan rumor was sparked after seeing Kylo for the first time, but was thrown out when the concept art for Kylo was leaked.
This is more about the old EU but anyway...
Anyone remember what was told about the Clone Wars pre-The Phantom Menace?
What i remember, roughly (also sources):
-It was set or ended approximately 35BBY (this date is apparently from Lucas himself)
-Honoghr was devastated because of it (Timothy Zahn's creation)
-Spaarti Cloning was used, clones could be grown in about a year. (Zahn again)
-Clone Masters controlled clone armies and fought against each other and the Republic (Zahn)
-Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Jedi General during it, he served Bail Organa during it somehow. (Lucas)
-Anakin Skywalker fought in it. (Lucas, also note Anakin was never referred as a general)
-Mandalorian Supercommandos fought in the Clone Wars against the Jedi (i think, i'm not quite sure. Lucas?)
-Obvious one: the Wars were a series of conflicts involving clones, as per the name, not a single war as portrayed in the films and the Clone Wars series.
-It is more or less implied, or possible to interpret data so that the Empire came later, as was Anakin's transformation to Darth Vader. There is no indication the Empire came to be because of the Clone Wars, or even immediately after it, though the Clone Wars leaving the Republic powerless and shattered is a good time for the Republic to transform into the Empire. (My assumption based on what i know)
-Lando Carlissian was originally (in the ESB drafts) meant to be a clone survivor from the Clone Wars, or a member of a clan that reproduced via cloning. Neither one is referred in any way in the final film or novelization however.
Anything else? Anyone remember any other given details, from Lucas or pre-The Phantom Menace EU? I know Lucas(film) was pretty adamant about nothing being said about it so stuff about it is sparse.
I am, out of curiosity, trying to gather what i can about the Clone Wars as they might have been, so long ago.
Anyone remember what was told about the Clone Wars pre-The Phantom Menace?
What i remember, roughly (also sources):
-It was set or ended approximately 35BBY (this date is apparently from Lucas himself)
-Honoghr was devastated because of it (Timothy Zahn's creation)
-Spaarti Cloning was used, clones could be grown in about a year. (Zahn again)
-Clone Masters controlled clone armies and fought against each other and the Republic (Zahn)
-Obi-Wan Kenobi was a Jedi General during it, he served Bail Organa during it somehow. (Lucas)
-Anakin Skywalker fought in it. (Lucas, also note Anakin was never referred as a general)
-Mandalorian Supercommandos fought in the Clone Wars against the Jedi (i think, i'm not quite sure. Lucas?)
-Obvious one: the Wars were a series of conflicts involving clones, as per the name, not a single war as portrayed in the films and the Clone Wars series.
-It is more or less implied, or possible to interpret data so that the Empire came later, as was Anakin's transformation to Darth Vader. There is no indication the Empire came to be because of the Clone Wars, or even immediately after it, though the Clone Wars leaving the Republic powerless and shattered is a good time for the Republic to transform into the Empire. (My assumption based on what i know)
-Lando Carlissian was originally (in the ESB drafts) meant to be a clone survivor from the Clone Wars, or a member of a clan that reproduced via cloning. Neither one is referred in any way in the final film or novelization however.
Anything else? Anyone remember any other given details, from Lucas or pre-The Phantom Menace EU? I know Lucas(film) was pretty adamant about nothing being said about it so stuff about it is sparse.
I am, out of curiosity, trying to gather what i can about the Clone Wars as they might have been, so long ago.
Gambit 1138
Banned
I could have sworn I saw this exact same post on Theforce.net Literature forum
I have never posted there, so i don't know about it. EDIT or read it either for that matter, despite being an SW fan. I have this thought that the worst place for being a fan is always the official forum.
I should probably, might be faster way to dig through the past...
EDIT WTF, i found what you referred to:
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/everything-we-knew-about-the-clone-wars-c-1998.50026398/
Darth Plagueis (assuming that is the book you meant)is part of the old EU that is no longer canon. So you do not need to read it before Tarkin at all.
Not to say it isn't a great book.
Yeah I know it's technically legends, but it was one of the later books published... I feel like there is a bit of a grey area for some of those books. Even if they get totally overwritten, they may be later down the ladder.
But if the fanbase is anything to go by, I'm sure people just can't wait until "Sheev" is replaced with something else.
But if the fanbase is anything to go by, I'm sure people just can't wait until "Sheev" is replaced with something else.
Yeah I know it's technically legends, but it was one of the later books published... I feel like there is a bit of a grey area for some of those books. Even if they get totally overwritten, they may be later down the ladder.
But if the fanbase is anything to go by, I'm sure people just can't wait until "Sheev" is replaced with something else.
Sheev is from Takin. 100% canon right there!
Read both.
It's a pretty enjoyable read. I'd say go for it, even if it's not canon anymore.
Not directly related per se but it does show some of the ideas floating around at that point. In the New Hope novel the Emperor was a more of a figure head lacking force powers whilst Vader was a Sith lord still. So that is quite a difference to what eventually happened.
Doublesith
Member
Expected, but we're getting a ton of post-ROTJ material this fall:
No info on the authors for the adult novel or the comics (expect those at Celebration), but we did get details on YA stuff.
It should all start releasing on September 4th.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/09/star-wars-release-20-books-journey-force-awakens?asdf&hootPostID=7ff3f5df92d8226bca4ca0fddcb87c6f
No info on the authors for the adult novel or the comics (expect those at Celebration), but we did get details on YA stuff.
It should all start releasing on September 4th.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/09/star-wars-release-20-books-journey-force-awakens?asdf&hootPostID=7ff3f5df92d8226bca4ca0fddcb87c6f
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