Oh fuck me
How are we doing on that bingo card
"If there is one truth, it is that the Jedi must end."
Everyone wants to feel smart and that they "called it" about something they know shit-all about.Where are these Empire Strikes Back talking points coming from?
Who is issuing these things?
Yeah ESB is all about the jedi needing to end. Cant believe this is such a copy and paste job AGAIN!
/s
Where are these Empire Strikes Back talking points coming from?
Who is issuing these things?
I'm starting to think the last line isn't Luke saying that, it's Snoke. If you listen close, it has that reverb in the voice.
Also I need that fucking poster. Holy shit.
People reeeeeally want to compare this movie to ESB don't they lol
Like what about that was "hitting the same beats" as Empire?
He's my least liked characterIntriguing.
But Boyega better not be in a coma for long. One scene max. I need my Finn.
Where are these Empire Strikes Back talking points coming from?
Who is issuing these things?
I love this shot
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It's the second movie in the trilogy. Someone gets some training. Um. There are some ships in it.
Clearly they're just remaking Empire.
No GOAT green lightsaber from Luke.
Trailer fails.
I wonder how many of these shots will actually be in the movie.
I love this shot
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No GOAT green lightsaber from Luke.
Trailer fails.
Yeah ESB is all about the jedi needing to end. Cant believe this is such a copy and paste job AGAIN!
/s
you sound like that people RLM was quiping about
Honestly I think the "TFA is just a remake of ANH" is kinda bullshit anyway. I can see where people are coming from with it, but it just doesn't really hold any weight or importance to me as an argument.It's the second movie in the trilogy. Someone gets some training. Um. There are some ships in it.
Clearly they're just remaking Empire.
Collider going to be doing their take in 20mins on the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdfOl-gU9XY
Stand on one hand and lift. Rocks with your special gift.I love this shot
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Emperor Palpatine using the dark side to cloud the Force and throw the galaxy into chaos isn't balance.
People living in harmony with the Force would be balance.
You don't necessarily need to say that "harmony with the Force" means "equality between light and dark." You could say that harmony with the Force is light and dominion over the Force is dark.
I get why Star Wars wants to go with the former (yin and yang), but what I don't get is how they're supposed to reconcile that with the latter, which is the model they've used throughout the rest of the series.
Unless they find a convincing way to say that model is incorrect, or that the dark side isn't actually about people wielding selfish influence over the Force. (Even though it continues to be so in TFA.) But I'm very skeptical of that.
Yall are the ones who defended TFA when it really was just OK. Not some high gem to be put in a display case.
Rouge One was better than TFA
Fight me.
Thats the point though - I didn't pick it up. And I'd represent more of the casual SW fan perspective. If a casual fan can't place the theme, it's not iconic. Like, any person on earth knows the Imperial March. It's embedded in pop culture. I doubt many aside from SW afficianodos know Rey's theme. I sure don't.
I haven't rewatched the trailer on the screen downstairs, but for a sec I thought that's the one she was waving around in that long shot on the cliff?
Part of me wants Luke to have his green saber, but I think he's going to have moved beyond them. I want him and Snoke to have a full on Force battle.
Definitely the blue saber in that shot.
20 min oh barely 1 min footage.
lol
Yall are the ones who defended TFA when it really was just OK. Not some high gem to be put in a display case.
Rouge One was better than TFA
Fight me.
Yall are the ones who defended TFA when it really was just OK. Not some high gem to be put in a display case.
Rouge One was better than TFA
Fight me.
Yeah, having the hero character of the old trilogy in 'Return of the Jedi' saying the Jedi should end reeks of playing it safe and taking no risks.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
There's a strong and rather bizarre desire amongst the SW fan base to draw 1:1 parallels with the OT and this new trilogy. That's all I'm taking note of. Like, why does TLJ have to be the ESB of this trilogy? Why can't it be whatever the hell it's gonna be?
Honestly I think the "TFA is just a remake of ANH" is kinda bullshit anyway. I can see where people are coming from with it, but it just doesn't really hold any weight or importance to me as an argument.
But this shit... this is a bridge too far.
It's the option I would hope for most. Luke evidently got big on Jedi history to at least some extent or another, so I would at least understand if perhaps he took the wrong lessons from such, and when things went back to shit, that gave him a crisis of faith.
However, the fandom has long been big on the idea of 'Grey Jedi' - look at how the term gets tossed around in this thread - wherein no assumption of a moral good is made, while nevertheless tying 'the light side' explicitly to the Jedi Order, rather than viewing the Jedi merely as one variant on possible adherents.
It's Luke speaking, watch his lips. Reverb? Yeah, he's in a cave.....I'm starting to think the last line isn't Luke saying that, it's Snoke. If you listen close, it has that reverb in the voice.