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Star Wars:The Old Republic - Knights of the Fallen Empire E3 trailer
- Thread starter Cystm
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yeah they really screwed the pooch using a shortened edited one for the stage.
yeah i'd totally play this
It had no emotion and the story was jumbled mess. I was like, WTF is going on here?
The previous SWTOR trailers were a bit too over the top for me (slow-mos and all) but this was better.
EA treats the game really poorly overall for events. It makes them a decent chunk of change so its funny they cant be bothered to give it 2 extra minutes so they can play the full trailer properly instead of a jumbled mess.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So.... it's a single player expansion?
It looks like they are reworking the entire game to be more Single Player focused with additional Multiplayer stuff aka mmo stuff.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
You don't think that's exactly what will happen?
Not KOTOR specifically.
I mean, it wouldn't be KOTOR.
Quick question: can I play SWTOR as a singleplayer experience? Also, can I progress story without paying?
I want to play it, but if a lot of the main quests involve the need for multiple people (especially dungeon runs) to progress the story, then I'll pass.
I've always been intrigued by SWTOR, but the whole MMO factor is a big turnoff after my 3 years of WoW and the ensuing mmo-fatigue.
I want to play it, but if a lot of the main quests involve the need for multiple people (especially dungeon runs) to progress the story, then I'll pass.
I've always been intrigued by SWTOR, but the whole MMO factor is a big turnoff after my 3 years of WoW and the ensuing mmo-fatigue.
Moff
Member
the singleplayer story content is 100% free to play and there is nothing that needs to be done in groups. the 8 different class main stories are all 100% single player.
You don't need to pay to play the story. The story missions don't requiere other people to do. Right now, until october, if you suscribe, you get 12x of experience from class quests (the main story) so you don't need to do pointless side quests. Dungeon runs have a group finder and require from 1 to 3 more people to complete.
Thanks for the info. Now the main question: is the SP any good? I'm just looking for some decent Star Wars style stories without the kill X of Y mmo shtick.
Moff
Member
it depends a lot on the class. I think the imperial agent, the sith warrior and the jedi knight are generally considered the best stories in the game.
The class quests are generally fine, but non class quests will have you collecting space bear asses.
RipperGrim
Member
If one thing good comes out of the Old Republic it's the amazing CGI trailers.
I really hope The Force Awakens is just as awesome.
I really hope The Force Awakens is just as awesome.
It really depends on what you're looking for. I personally think that the Knight storyline starts strong but gets progressively weaker. That is partially due to the fact that the Knight is the hero you'd probably play in a singleplayer Kotor but since the Old Republic is a MMO you can't really change the status quo too much so even though the thing you do should have huge consequences they kind of explain it away. The resolution just didn't feel satisfying to me. Maybe a dark side playthrough is more interesting. The Knight also has a few storybeats that could be really interesting but are resolved too quickly because they're held back by the MMO mechanics.
Sith Warrior I really liked but overall I personally enjoy the smaller stories a lot more. Being the guy who is just trying to get through this huge war as best as he can (like the smuggler or the bounty hunter) works better in the context of it being an MMO since you can resolve the stories in a satisfying way that has a huge impact on what happens with that character but doesn't really change the status quo immediately.
I'd really encourage anyone who wants to play to take advantage of the 12x xp that is running right now. It really is the way to play this game if you're in it for the story. Almost all of the sidequests are meaningless "kill x amount of y" quests which you normally (without the bonus xp) have to do to stay in the expected level range along with the "bonus series" for every planet, which is the worst and dullest content in this game. If you're playing this for the first time you might want to do the planet quest series on your first republic/empire character since they can be fairly entertaining but apart from that the only fun series of sidequest is one concerning the cult of Revan (second planet on an empire playthrough). I burned out twice while finishing a character before the 12x xp was a thing but now the pacing feels pretty good considering you're playing a MMO.
Some of the classes are actually really fun to play even though none of the main story content is difficult if you update your gear every once in a while. Overall I'd say it's a decent replacement for a new Kotor which we probably won't get any time soon unfortunately.
Holy shit, I just came to post this. This is pretty amazing because the story quests are really pretty good. I think they just got me to re-sub.
No, I don't see Disney doing anything in the old republic any time soon.
Darkstorne
Member
Question for existing players (can't post on their forums without subbing): Does the combat still require multiple hotbars filled with skills that all do slightly different variations of the same thing?
After playing MOBAs with four highly versatile skills, Warlords of Draenor which merged multiple skills together, and TESO with a six slot bar of really useful and powerful skills... I don't want to go back to managing two or three hotbars and following the same damn rotations.
Strike, Master Strike, Sundering Strike, Hilt Strike, Slash, Overhead Slash, Guardian Slash, Cyclone Slash...
After playing MOBAs with four highly versatile skills, Warlords of Draenor which merged multiple skills together, and TESO with a six slot bar of really useful and powerful skills... I don't want to go back to managing two or three hotbars and following the same damn rotations.
Strike, Master Strike, Sundering Strike, Hilt Strike, Slash, Overhead Slash, Guardian Slash, Cyclone Slash...
How long does it take to hit 55 with the 12x boost?
Between eight and ten hours
Lots of small perks you can unlock through the game's legacy system, which is xp you earn on all characters on that server after first unlocking the legacy on one character. Some you have to earn, for instance you can unlock each class buff for your other characters to use by reaching the end of act 2 with that class - eventually meaning each of your characters can grant all four class buffs. There's other unlocks like GTN terminal on your ship, ability to mount while running, quick travel cooldown reductions (now down to zero cooldown at max unlock level), etc. Some unlocks are account wide and some are for individual characters.
Florida_Man_5000
Member
I don't hate SWTOR - I bought a laptop so I could play it. What I want though is a console compatible SW story-driven game so I can play all comfy-like on my nice tv. And that's not really that easy in this mmo-rpg format. If SWTOR comes to consoles I'd give it a shot.
HarryDemeanor
Member
They have some details posted on the new site:
http://www.swtor.com/fallen-empire/characters
The Empire of Zakuul is the new main villain faction for this story arc. Only thing I'm confused with is where the current big bad, Emperor Vitiate, fits in all of this.
Shiet, I might actually sub now for a month.
Exploratory
Banned
Have you played TOR? KOTOR is in there.
F2P MMO, but has strong single player components where most of the quests are voiced, has good/evil choices, stories that differs between classes, and the usual MMO dungeons (optional mostly) each has its own story and consequences.
This is the latest expansion to the story that's accessible once you've cleared the base game story. The base game is free btw.
Exploratory
Banned
Sith Warrior and Imperial Agent are amazing story lines.
While I agree IA has pretty dark storyline, I recommend anyone who's not familiar with KOTOR to starts with Jedi Knight to get a sense on where things stand.
At least until you finish chapter 1.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Cinematic is amazing, too bad the game nowadays isn't.
HarryDemeanor
Member
It started back on May 4th and will end in October.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Man, the full trailer is so good.
Mad Season
Banned
why does this game keep changing my monitor refresh rate to 144? i have it set to 120 ingame and in windows desktop. so annoying as it changes my color scheme. tried all the "fixes" too. nadda
it's F2p but not PayToWin, I really love it so far, level 55 Jedi vigilance Guardian, great PvE experience and the PvP looks good but unbalanced.
I initially played it during launch and the leveling experience was great with fully voice acted quests and MMO level good story.
Went back to it as F2P a month ago, hated every bit of it. I uninstalled it right after the first dungeon. This is a game where you might have some fun if you sub for the first month just to get rid of the F2P annoyance. If you start from scratch as F2P I don't think you'll really have fun with the massive level of F2P restrictions. (no respec?, almost no dungeon loots)
Went back to it as F2P a month ago, hated every bit of it. I uninstalled it right after the first dungeon. This is a game where you might have some fun if you sub for the first month just to get rid of the F2P annoyance. If you start from scratch as F2P I don't think you'll really have fun with the massive level of F2P restrictions. (no respec?, almost no dungeon loots)
You can respec as F2P, though it costs a small amount of (in game) credits and you need to go back to a guy on the fleet. And you don't really lack for loot.
If you're not looking to do end-game stuff or a lot of PVP, there's really not much need to subscribe. F2P is fine to play the class story. Though at higher levels you probably want to be preferred for the additional quickbars at least, and at the moment subscribing for a month to get access to the expansion packs makes a lot of sense.
Nero's Neptune
Member
It's okay if you're only after the class stories. It used to be that I wouldn't recommend it even for that, since you'd end up under-leveled because of the XP penalty, but now leveling is extremely fast.
Subbing really is nice, though. It's all the little things that turn it from "okay" to "great".