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Starbound now available for preorder [Up: Stretch Goals]
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You have no idea. Collecting and hoarding stuff is great, but having a reason/excuse to make an entirely new building, just to house fossil displays? Absolutely.
I can already sort of imagine in my head how it could look too.
Erp, for the new page;
STRETCH GOAL #2: FOSSILS
A mockup of what fossils might look like.
Fossils are the remains of long dead creatures scattered throughout Starbounds universe. They’re extremely valuable, very rare and very difficult to dig up. You’ll need special tools to clear the dirt and unearth a fossil. Removing the wrong piece of dirt could cause the fossil to crumble into dust. Successfully removed fossils can be placed as trophies, some have very special properties and perhaps some of these long dead creatures can even be revived.
If we manage to hit $750,000 in pre-orders, this feature will be added to the final game and will be playable upon release.
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FOSSILS!
Fossils have been in many Starbound mocks we've shared. But sadly they've been pushed back to a non-priority. They would add so much character to worlds. They'd tie into a lot of systems. I drew the penguins and really love 'em. But gimmie fossils!
Basically, theoretically (seriously this system is 0% built, just some art is done for it) you would use a tool to carefully extract fossils from the ground. There would be a lot of fossil types. Some really rare, others really common. They'd do a variety of things like add to the atmosphere, be used in crafting on all sorts of things like perhaps armor. They might help you obtain dna for a T-Rex pet. They might help you summon a boss. They could do a variety of things.
All these are my ideas and I don't know if they'd stick (they're off the top of my head, these ideas are NOT confirmations of anything). We'd have to see what we could do. But I can't be the only one as a kid who dreamed about finding a T-Rex fossil in the ground!
Here's a few examples of some things we've made. I'm sure that mammoth skull is recognizable. (Source)
He's referring to this early image, by the way, where the skull can be seen in the iceberg;
That's how all pre-orders work, though. In this case, you even get access to Beta. With regular pre-orders, you might get a slight discount, but you'll get the game when everyone else gets it.
Why does this not sit well with you?
Grimm Fandango
Member
Er that's it? Only fossils? Pretty lame compared to a new race.
edit: nvm thought they were just in the background
edit: nvm thought they were just in the background
Yeah, to be honest their current deal of $15, a Steam key, Beta, and OST is the best deal I've seen in indie gaming. Their plans to support the game post launch are well underway too. Modding alone is going to make this game explode beyond anything we can imagine right now.
Dat update cycle ffuuuuuu
Similar in the very base concept in the sense that it's a sandbox and it looks artistically similar since Tiy (lead dev) was the artist on Terraria. This takes the idea of Terraria and expands upon it in every way imaginable. There's multiple races, everything is procedurally generated -
The base Universe
Every Galaxy
Every planet
Every Biome
Every sub-Biome
Every weapon
Every armor
Every stat on said weapon and armor
and so on are all procedurally generated.
Theoretically speaking, you could host or join a server with 9 friends and never see them. However, the game gives you easy ways of grouping up with your friends.
Also, unlike Terrarira, SB has a main plotline. You start the game on a planet where you run out of fuel and you have to survive and then find a fuel source to continue on with your story. The game is very much about exploration and is a sandbox at heart.
In regards to your server question, you'll be able to host your own server by simply running another separate exe, or given the inevitable success you could also pay monthly where someone will host for you. It's not an MMO where it's persistent in the sense you're thinking, though they're talking about the ability to daisy-chain servers together so you could host two different games from two different parts of the world and play together in one Universe.
I bought Terraria for $10 at launch, I put 200 hours into it meaning for every hour put in I spent 5 cents. Considering the dev time for Terraria was only 4 months with one guy doing content work, Starbound has already had a lot more time in dev with more people, already has more modding support, and is setting up to give us weekly small content updates and probably monthly or bi-monthly larger updates. The modding community alone are going to make this something special. The amount of time I'm going to put into this will be disgustingly high.
so if i don't have any friends playing this, i will never see other people in this game?
well that kinda sucks
That is correct, however, you can always play on a GAF server. I can guarantee you as we approach Beta or more importantly launch, someone will post an IP for all of GAF to play on. I wouldn't worry about the no friends thing.
RepairmanJack
Member
Whoa, Fossils sounds amazing. I'm wondering if that's what was underground in one of the videos Tiy did where he tried to avoid showing what was underground. It sounds pretty cool if some rare bosses can pop up by uncovering certain fossils. Figuring out the different ways to uncover them sounds great too. Nice to see a new feature and not just another race.
OT:Looking like the GW2 thread in here, so many familiar posters. :lol
OT:Looking like the GW2 thread in here, so many familiar posters. :lol
For anyone who havent put their money down on a pre-order yet.
Starbound giveaway.
http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/starbound-giveaway.17691/
Starbound giveaway.
http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/starbound-giveaway.17691/
i think they want to use steamworks for the steam version. They may have said but i think no drm for the other copy.
Didnt they say that if You are playing online, You can meet other players on different planets too? Like if You would jump from server to server when You are landing on new planets.
I'm sure we will have a server with 20+ people on it within an hour of the beta coming out if able.
Makes me remember the early Gaf Minecraft server tests, where we ended up spawning next to a cliff, so half the people fell into the ocean. Was so buggy too.
RepairmanJack
Member
Next stretch goal, more online/multiplayer functionality.
What will be player limit for GAF server? Will we be able to invite friends [trusted ones] from outside of GAF on it?
What will be player limit for GAF server? Will we be able to invite friends [trusted ones] from outside of GAF on it?
When HaRyu was running the GAF server, GAFers and friends were welcome. We never had to boot anyone who was properly invited (there was an instance where a non-GAFer was banned, and in retaliation he posted the server's info publicly).
Server cap has been said to be whatever the hardware/connection can handle.
Yeah, they hadn't mentioned the Space Station in so long, I knew something was up with it. Not surprising, but hopefully that means the ship gets lots of extended functions, and a lot of the Research and such is handled planet-side (i.e. more excuses to build).
NihonTiger90
Member
I'm up for being part of a four-pack.
I wonder how small are they going to be, then? One biome per planet isn't very realistic, but better than having tundra-tropical-forest-desert all within a 600 tile area.
I hope one of the Stretch Goals is Star Trek style theme planets.
Like, an Ancient Rome planet. I don't know how that'd work... but I want it.
Oh. That' sad.
I hope there's still some base building system. Then again, I guess we can just colonize planets and build huge structures like in Terraria anyway, so that's no big deal.
Oh. That' sad.
I hope there's still some base building system. Then again, I guess we can just colonize planets and build huge structures like in Terraria anyway, so that's no big deal.
I think the Home World is going to act as the Multiplayer Hub, where the Space Ships will allows players to Progress on their own. So likely the home world is going to have tons of structures.
Also, the wiring system is going to support LUA scripts. I can't wait to see what sort of silly contractions people can make with it.
What will be player limit for GAF server? Will we be able to invite friends [trusted ones] from outside of GAF on it?
Hopefully the actual server side implementation is different from Terraria, but this is what my server was capable of:
Max # of players was somewhere around 17 to 20. Anything more than that, and the computer took a major hit in speed. Computer has had an upgrade or two since then, so in combination of a different server implementation, hopefully we can get more people online. My main concerns that I've always been vocal about is how much load does multiple planets (and when players are on different planets) cause on a computer. That will probably be the determining factor honestly, so no declared limit until we can do a stress test.
Server will be passworded (and IP hidden!). GAFfers obviously are welcome, and GAFfer friends are welcome too, although you do have to WARN ME when a friend is given access to the server. The crap that was happening in the waning days of the GAF Terraria server, has made me fairly paranoid, so the BANHAMMER will be used without provocation if I see unknown people on the server. Don't just let your friends on the server, you need to actually get my permission first. And friend of a friend? They have to still get an ok from me first before.
As for any other rules (griefing, PvP, dont touch these structures), I'll figure them out when we actually get the game.
I do have SOME ideas... we need to designate at least one planet as a battle/arena planet, and maybe a few planets as outlaw planets (planets where I don't give a damn what you do). But like I said, we'll wait for the game before I figure out what exactly we'll do with the server.
Wouldn't it be easier to just have all unknown planets be outlaw planets? Since there is technically an infinite amount.
Also, I do wonder if planets are simulated while no one is on them. Asked on the AMA, but it being 16 hours after they first posted it, I have my doubts it will get answered.
Also, I do wonder if planets are simulated while no one is on them. Asked on the AMA, but it being 16 hours after they first posted it, I have my doubts it will get answered.
spindoctor
Member
I guess it's the part where you don't actually know when you'll get something for your money. All they've said is that the beta will be sometime this year, which is kind of vague. They have a curious mix of pre-orders and early access funding going on, with crowdfunding thrown into the mix now. With Minecraft, you could buy it early for the lowest price and get alpha access, then later at a higher price for beta access and then finally at full price when it was released. Here it seems you buy it at the lowest price and get nothing and if you wait for beta access you might end up having to pay more.
It's not the end of the world or anything but it would be nice if they had defined their plans a little better, that's all. If it's still 15$ when beta access starts, I'll definitely get it.
Sure i ask first
Thanks for info.Ps. That friend i'm talking about have already played DayZ long time ago with GAF'ers
There are different planet sizes (and even some non-planets, like moons, asteroids, man-made orbital structures, etc.) so it really depends. They said a while ago (so it may not still be true) that there are even infinite planets. I hope that's not the case, honestly, because I'd prefer to be able to stick an 'explored' pin into each planet and move on to another. If you can just wander on one planet endlessly, that kind of defeats the point of having a huge galaxy, right?
As for single biomes, they've said that they actually had multi-biome planets running but that they preferred single-biome planets because it gave them more character. The example they always use is Star Wars: even though it is unrealistic, we remember the desert planet, ice planet, swamp planet, forest planet and urban planet as Tattoine, Hoth, Dagobah, Endor and Coruscant.
Hopefully, the mini-biomes make the planets varied enough that they never feel boring. They've said a forest planet will have open fields, rocky areas, lakes, etc... and they've alluded to more exotic biomes as well;
The randomly generated plants and creatures will certainly help too. Keep in mind that dungeons and other structures are also randomly generated and there's supposedly at least one per planet. And they can take on lots of different forms;
I'm sure we'll get something similar, given all of the anachronisms already in game (Plasma Cowboys, Medieval robots, futuristic ape men, etc.). Wouldn't surprise me at all if there's a Roman-esque planet.
Oh. That' sad.
I hope there's still some base building system. Then again, I guess we can just colonize planets and build huge structures like in Terraria anyway, so that's no big deal.
Even when there was a Space Station, they've said that it can only support a certain number of people, and you'd have to create a base on your homeworld for the rest. I think now, instead of dividing your population, you just have everyone there (or on your ship, I guess, but since that's always with you too...)
I seem to remember a comment from Tiy about how in Multiplayer, there would be a 'safe planet' that everyone had access to, sort of a Home World for everyone to come back to. I'll be damned if I can find it, let me look around a bit more.
They have said that only planets that currently have players on them are simulated.
Ps. That friend i'm talking about have already played DayZ long time ago with GAF'ers
The 'incident' we're referring to is a Non-GAFer (who was either waiting for approval or just found the thread) who started off okay, but got progressively worse as time went on. It started off with "Wait, how did Kaos get over there so fast?" (using a map hack), then he started draining oceans for fun, blowing peoples' stuff up, and using more and more hacks.
I personally was sick of him because you'd log in and start building, and he'd teleport to you and start adding onto your structure. Or building right next to it. Or chopping down trees you specifically planted or wanted to stay. Or just being in the way.
Anyways, after warning him multiple times, he was finally banned from the server. In retaliation, any time we posted the IP for the GAF server, he posted it on some public server agregate and we'd end up with 40 people jumping on and demolishing everything, triggering hard mode, griefing and looting... it was a mess.
I think it would be a better idea would be to declare a planet as an outlaw planet as we see fit. Its inherently easier to go from lawful to lawlessness, than lawlessness to lawful.
I'll worry about it when the game comes out, so we can have a discussion then.
Also needed to be pointed out, Retro will probably be the co-server admin again. And more than likely, he'll be on the server more than me, and then people will once again get confused and assume that it's Retro's server, not mine. *shakes fist*
I haven't heard a lot about Homeworlds in their production announcements. Are these the different planets the races are suppose to have originated at and each player is fleeing from or is it something else?
They've mentioned you can essentially colonize and reshape planets to your liking but if this is your homeworld, are you only allowed one?
Hopefully they can bring back the space station after launch. Though now I'm curious if these updates will be DLC or not.
They've mentioned you can essentially colonize and reshape planets to your liking but if this is your homeworld, are you only allowed one?
Hopefully they can bring back the space station after launch. Though now I'm curious if these updates will be DLC or not.
Yeah, it's a bit early to start saying what we'll be doing with the GAF-iverse. I liked that we sort of had the Terraria server divided up, with a central area for people to establish a base in, an area for pixel art (and from the look of things, Starbound is going to allow for some crazy construction in that regard), a crafting/farming area, and then everyone just sort of looked for a spot in the wilderness to build and went at it.
People were always respectful of the land / buildings of others (with the aforementioned exception, of course) and I saw people comment more often about how they were 'neighbors', organizing so that crafting stations and base camps were available throughout the world and such than I did about people encroaching on one another's space.
Hell, we all dug an underground highway from one end of the map to the other together. And not just a straight hallway through the terrain either; it used grey brick, red brick walls and had lighting at regular intervals. It was ridiculously well done, and all by hand. And it was everyone chipping in together. And I'll be damned if we didn't get a lot of use out of it too.
Hey, to be fair, I always corrected people when they said that. It's not my fault I'm a building junkie with a lot of time to kill.
Unless something has changed, at some point in the game you can designate a planet as your "Home World" and it allows you much more customization, like terraforming or turning off monster spawning / events. For example, they've mentioned that some planets may be destroyed by disasters / meteor impacts; having a homeworld means that planet will never suffer such a fate, and you can build safely there. You can send NPCs to live there as well.
As far as the story goes, unless something has changed, the game begins with your character's planet being destroyed and you being one of the few survivors. You then crash land on an alien planet and have to find a way to refuel.
As far as DLC goes, they've said that they want to have weekly free updates while another team works on larger chunks of content. Whether those are free or not is up in the air, but the lead developer, Tiy, has mentioned several times how much he hates DLC;
Starbound IRC said:
I actually asked the in the chat room, one of the devs (I think) said its smaller then that, only the local chunks around player characters are simulated. Which could be good when it comes to server load, but it likely means you can't have a machine doing some task when no one is around.
For those who missed that little venture on the GAF Terraria server, I was posting "jobs" on a signpost, and was offering rewards if you did/helped out in a job.
I don't actually recall giving any rewards for the highway though...
Ah, so you're still able to build on other planets then? That's good.
And I hope it's free updates. I, too, hate DLC and seeing the fossil stretch goal made me wonder how some of the new additions seem really neat. It would be a shame to miss out on them.
Eh, dont get such people, but i also dont get why would anyone cheat in MP FPS, ok it can be funny for 10-15 minutes, but people are playing on hacks for weeks/months ...
This time server IP should be passed via PM or in hash maybe?
With the homeworld stuff, do we know if you can designate multiple homeworlds in multi-player? As in, can I have a homeworld and Retro have a different world as his homeworld? Would be nice on a server full of people to not have to worry about disasters.
That actually sounds like a good idea for Starbound for if we have/need a GAF planet that everyone chips in to build.
