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DaGwaphics
Member
I don't necessarily think it needs aliens, I'd be fine if this is just about human interactions in these space colonies, of course with some bad actors taking advantage of the wild west nature of it.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
There are some real balls up in this thread lol. We got mad men seriously suggesting that Spider-Man 2 has ANY chance whatsoever of hurting Starfield's launch when Starfield is launching on PC, Xbox, and going to be day one on Game Pass? Spider-Man 2 is a PS5 next-gen exclusive that is a vastly different kind of experience from the one people expect when they think to play something like Starfield. Not only are the games separated by platform, there's simply no way that the hardcore audiences that love them some Bethesda RPGs are going to be swayed in large enough numbers by Spider-Man 2 to ignore the next Todd Howard-directed Bethesda RPG epic to lead it to have a bad or weak launch. Eradicate the wet dream from your minds. It ain't gonna happen. Forza Horizon 5 had 18 million people playing it after a month, Halo Infinite had 20 million. Starfield will exceed both.
And the more people are choosing to play it via Game Pass, the less likely it is to show up high on sales charts. That's no longer the bar for success anymore for Xbox first-party studios with the game pass strategy. It's about growing and keeping people in Game Pass. That's where the real money is for Microsoft. Starfield will be a monster hit on Steam at launch, far bigger than anything Halo Infinite achieved. I can't see Spider-Man 2 doing a thing to impact that. Starfield will easily exceed the Fallout 4 Steam peak, for example.
See this list here?
Everything above that arrow as low as Hogwarts Legacy and as high as Cyberpunk 2077 is Starfield territory on Steam come launch time unless the Game Pass launch on PC is just way bigger than I expect (which is certainly possible).
And the more people are choosing to play it via Game Pass, the less likely it is to show up high on sales charts. That's no longer the bar for success anymore for Xbox first-party studios with the game pass strategy. It's about growing and keeping people in Game Pass. That's where the real money is for Microsoft. Starfield will be a monster hit on Steam at launch, far bigger than anything Halo Infinite achieved. I can't see Spider-Man 2 doing a thing to impact that. Starfield will easily exceed the Fallout 4 Steam peak, for example.
See this list here?
Everything above that arrow as low as Hogwarts Legacy and as high as Cyberpunk 2077 is Starfield territory on Steam come launch time unless the Game Pass launch on PC is just way bigger than I expect (which is certainly possible).
SenjutsuSage
Banned
This is a Game Pass seller also.
Havoc2049
Member
Same. I would be down for some scary and mysterious Thargoid type encounters, like in Elite Dangerous.
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00Magnum Gaming
Member
Wait you
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Given that we can go to Mars I will be seriously disappointed if a talented modder doesn't create a quest line with the ancient precursors of the Mechanicum. Perhaps even referencing Big E personally checking in on the Void Dragon after imprisoning it.
Fredrik
Member
Easy now. Those were on Xbox One as well. Starfield is Xbox Series and PC only. And you won’t see the total numbers anyway since MS will only talk about Gamepass numbers while Starfield is going to be absolutely gigantic on Steam. It’s the most wishlisted game on Steam now, #1.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
It is the much larger reception on Steam that's responsible for why I see it exceeding both Halo Infinite and Forza Horizon 5. I'm honestly expecting up to 30 million. Maybe I'm overshooting it, but I really see it going that high. Starfield will be much better received and more popular in the rest of the world besides the USA than either Forza Horizon or Halo Infinite is my take. Though Forza Horizon 5 is quite popular outside of the USA, especially popular in India from what many who live there tell me.
Silent Viper
Banned
June.
Fredrik
Member
It’ll be huge on Steam, that’s where Bethesda’s games are thriving. But will MS or Valve show those numbers? Have they showed numbers for Forza Horizon or Halo or Flight Sim? I’m thinking we’ll just have the isolated MS bubble player number, the rest we can only speculate on. I remember an interview with Todd where they talked about the 30 million copies sold for Skyrim, a number that has been floating around, he said they were way way higher than that, no direct figure mentioned though.
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DaGwaphics
Member
The game will likely have long legs and 50 different re-releases as well. I'd expect it to do a lot lifetime.
Stuart360
Member
Fallout 4 is over 30mil now, and Skyrim over 40mil.
Its not fair to expect Starfield to get those numbers though with no Playstation, and the game being on Gamepass.
The game will be huge on Steam, but if 5 years from now the game has SOLD 20mil, it would of done well.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah, and it’s not just ”no Playstation”, compared to Skyrim it’s - no PS3, PS4, PS5, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Switch.
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
Very good release day for Christmas season. Release at September with many bugs and two month later comes out the patches (hopefully the official not the community ones). Also it would good be time to upgrade to series X because i think 2024 would be the Xbox year.
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
But do we know the split of these 40 milions, is it 30 milions PC and 10 at consoles? It would be considered success or failure depend the amount they sold for each device. But i think if the Starfield delivers then the people that don't care about papa Sony or mama Microsoft will buy Xbox to play it. Good games sells consoles.
The game had sold over 20 million copies before PS4 and Xbox One released.
PC's also a MUCH bigger market than it used to be back then.
MS studios are allowed to reveal sales, if they want. Rare has revealed Sea of Thieves sales on Steam, for example.
Most of the launch week sales were on Xbox 360, but those were different times, and Steam wasn't as ubiquitous then.
GymWolf
Member
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
It will take a long time to get to any numbers like that. But if it's manages Skyrim levels of critical praise it could have a very long tail.
I think he is including GamePass installs when he says that. But of course I don't think Xbox Series has an installed base of 30 million. It's not something that can happen any time soon.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I was actually talking about Spiderman 2 having that effect on Starfield
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Have you played Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 or Fallout 4 ? The basic game structure will broadly be the same, except you will be traveling multiple planets instead of being on a single big landmass.
DonJimbo
Member
Oh ok thanks its nice then
Punished Miku
Gold Member
The earlier trailers lay out a bare bones story. You're the last of the "explorers" or something, exploring what's left of uncharted space. You find some relics of unknown origin that could hold secrets about something (center of universe / advanced civilization?). There are multiple factions to join with other stories like past Bethesda games. Then side quests as well.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I don't get this line of wishful thinkingI was actually talking about Spiderman 2 having that effect on Starfield
Separate platforms different genres both games will be monsters
DonJimbo
Member
Seems to be a very nice game im really excited to experience it
OuterLimits
Member
Currently only own PS4 pro and Switch, but if this game reviews well, I'm definitely buying an xbox. Just need to decide which one to get. Plus I can enjoy Age of Empires.
DonJimbo
Member
Get the series x
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Agreed. It is kind of refreshing to have something sci-fi and intergalactic and not have alien spaces in it.
DaGwaphics
Member
Absolutely, look at Hogwarts and the numbers it did with 60-65% coming from PC. A high quality game will move the units it is going to move regardless of platform (because it will sell the platform if need be).
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I could see it being some kind of humanoid alien. That's the tasteful way to pull it off lately, like the Ancients in Stargate basically. The relics came from somewhere.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
this game will have alien races in it , i guarantee it
Balducci30
Member
I wonder if they’ll eventually release this on ps5 - maybe like a year down the line? Feels like missing out on a big part of their userbase to exclude that console entirely
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
It has a story, quite a lot of story, in fact. It's expected to have one of the largest scripts ever, with over 250,000 lines of dialogue.
But unlike Mass Effect it will be open world in structure and will let you do some of the open worldy stuff we see in games like No Man's Sky like trading and settlement building and exploring procedurally generated worlds.
So it's kind of trying to be a best of all worlds thing.
Stuart360
Member
Well it does have alien creatures in it atleast, and alien artifacts.
Besides is plainly obvious to me that the story involves building some kind of stargate from lost alien artifacts you collect over the course of the game. Then at the end you probably go through the stargate and meet aliens i guess.
I must admit i would of prefered the game being more Mass Effect/Star Trek, with alien races in the game. That could be saved for a sequel though if i'm right about the plot.
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DonJimbo
Member
Im very excited for it
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Mostly but personally I don't know what I'm gonna do with myself if Starfield and Spider-Man come out at the same time. Obviously I am buying both but I don't know what I would play.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yeah I meant like full Mass Effect or Star Wars type alien civilization that act, walk, and talk like humans and are roughly at the same level of advancement. I think it has been a bit overdone in movies and games.
Interstellar is one of my favorite films, and I'd like for more games to be in the same veins.
But, ultimately, it is just a matter of preferences. Some people would prefer it otherwise, as Stuart wants a more Mass Effect type world.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Oh I am 100% buying both and I would venture to guess anyhow who has both platforms and are wanting both games will have both games.
As far as what to play lets say both launch same week I am 100% playing Starfield first as SM2 being a single player game I usually take my time with those
But I expect SM2 first week of Nov so will have a good 2 months with Starfield first
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
There are some real balls up in this thread lol. We got mad men seriously suggesting that Spider-Man 2 has ANY chance whatsoever of hurting Starfield's launch when Starfield is launching on PC, Xbox, and going to be day one on Game Pass? Spider-Man 2 is a PS5 next-gen exclusive that is a vastly different kind of experience from the one people expect when they think to play something like Starfield. Not only are the games separated by platform, there's simply no way that the hardcore audiences that love them some Bethesda RPGs are going to be swayed in large enough numbers by Spider-Man 2 to ignore the next Todd Howard-directed Bethesda RPG epic to lead it to have a bad or weak launch. Eradicate the wet dream from your minds. It ain't gonna happen. Forza Horizon 5 had 18 million people playing it after a month, Halo Infinite had 20 million. Starfield will exceed both.
And the more people are choosing to play it via Game Pass, the less likely it is to show up high on sales charts. That's no longer the bar for success anymore for Xbox first-party studios with the game pass strategy. It's about growing and keeping people in Game Pass. That's where the real money is for Microsoft. Starfield will be a monster hit on Steam at launch, far bigger than anything Halo Infinite achieved. I can't see Spider-Man 2 doing a thing to impact that. Starfield will easily exceed the Fallout 4 Steam peak, for example.
See this list here?
Everything above that arrow as low as Hogwarts Legacy and as high as Cyberpunk 2077 is Starfield territory on Steam come launch time unless the Game Pass launch on PC is just way bigger than I expect (which is certainly possible).
Spider Man 2 will be a big hit, but only on PS5...You're post nails pretty much What Starfield will do to the Xbox and PC landscape. If it is on the quality level of a Fallout/Skyrim...Which I expect TBH - It is going to be gargantuan!
People acting like Todd and his team don't know what they are doing. It's like expecting a Sony Santa Monica game to suddenly turn out absolute dog shit. It ain't going to happen.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Starfield is single player too as far as I know.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
You are correct come to think of it
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Wait you
I don't play on Xbox, so I'm not familiar with this word.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
I got a feeling HBII will melt brains into full blown slurpy cups! That game is going to look absolutely insane! The last gameplay they showed was ridiculous in the visuals department.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Why not? That's one of the perks of being acquired by a trillion dollar company. I'd place an avatar bet that it's probably the most bug free game they've ever made on release. Bethesda games are pretty incredible in their own right, for sure. Imagine Starfield releasing without bugs? That kind of news will spread fast in the gaming community, and make the game that much better.