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Starhawk - Round up of Previews, Info, Videos
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Jack Scofield
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I was one of the few "serious" players who didn't use Pro Flight mode in Warhawk, and one of the reasons why I didn't was because I loved the bounding reticle during normal flight mode. Watching the videos for Starhawk, it seems as though this was removed (the crosshairs always stay centered on the screen). Hopefully this changes by release, as I loved chasing enemies who were on the corner of my screen.
woolley said:
So did I, they (the controls) made the game more about strategy and positioning than "Bro, I can headshot you faster" type of game.
The reticule in Starhawk looks a lot like the one in Warhawk, Im expecting it to still have a, compared to other shooters, ample aim assist, or some kind of lock on.
SolidSnakex
Member
thuway said:
So you want to wait until 2013 or 2014?
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Was warhawk 30 or 60fps? Anyone know that frames on starhawk?
And why the fuck does Sony unveil all their shit before e3? I'm going on a gaf hiatus starting monday. I want to go into e3 not knowing shit.
And why the fuck does Sony unveil all their shit before e3? I'm going on a gaf hiatus starting monday. I want to go into e3 not knowing shit.
Jack Scofield said:
I actually never noticed that .. the reticule doesn't move like it does in NF .. but it's definitely not PF because I thought I saw the Hawk do a barrel roll without the whole camera moving with it.
I hope they didn't just combine NF and PF and that's all we get ..
SolidSnakex
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Warhawk was 30fps and Starhawk should be the same.
Sony unveils stuff early to get them extra attention. It's easy for games to get overshadowed at E3 so some companies show stuff early. And there's just no real benefit to keep all your games a secret until E3.
Sony unveils stuff early to get them extra attention. It's easy for games to get overshadowed at E3 so some companies show stuff early. And there's just no real benefit to keep all your games a secret until E3.
smallios74
Member
Listened to Torgo and Co. on PSN Nation podcast today chatting about Starhawk, sounds like its still Warhawk but different, they sounded so hyped about it it was pretty infectious. Warhawk is probably my most played MP game this gen, just cant wait to here more about the space combat side, hopefully at E3. Just wonder if they are going to go the perk method of say COD or be the same as before ?
The Frankman
Banned
In honor of the Starhawk reveal... slider, Sea Manky, Tnntbltn and I humbly invite you people to the GAF Warhawk Clan Thread! Go post there and read the exploits of many of our greatest players!
You can skip to 300 If you want to see the good stuff... MY ARRIVAL TO [GAF] CLAN!
You can skip to 300 If you want to see the good stuff... MY ARRIVAL TO [GAF] CLAN!
For all baseless fear mongers who early in this thread, were crying its the end of world, there are no power ups, and so on. The latest GT trailer, that gluv linked, can put this one fear to rest. Powerups are still in.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/mechanics-interview-starhawk/713722
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/mechanics-interview-starhawk/713722
woolley said:
I don't think I agree with that. A good warhawk pilot will typically get into hover in front of the jeep and stop it before killing it. Now the new hawks will have to drop to the ground as a mech, and as the video shows there's a bit of a recovery delay before it can start moving, so if they aren't very precise, they'll can either overshoot the 4x4 or give the driver ample time to dodge past. If anything I'd say this weakens the effectiveness of aircraft against 4x4s.
In a way, the mech transform is an interesting way to nerf Warhawk's arguably overpowered A2G hovering. Hover mode was still faster than anything in the game that wasn't a warhawk in full flight. Now if you want to mess with ground units for longer than a single strafing run, you'll need to land, and you'll be slower.
Besides, we need to stop thinking simply in terms of using hawks to stop objective carriers. We're going to be dropping WALLS in front of carrier paths. And the carriers are going to be dropping structures to aid them as they go too. It's a whole new ballgame, and we really don't have enough perspective to properly comment on the finer aspects of balancing yet.
The Frankman
Banned
Interesting point... can the dropped structures crush a player in a jeep? I didn't think to look for it...Sea Manky said:
params7 said:
I expect that in the end there will be effective but not overpowered ways for hawk/mechs to harass ground units, whether from the already announced ability to drop structures while flying, or from the capabilities of the mechs once landed. You'll want air superiority to prevent that just as you do in Warhawk. I wouldn't sweat it.
And hey, we still haven't see the equivalent of cluster bombs yet. >
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
No matter what the changes are, I'm looking at this as a new game. I can play Warhawk if I want Warhawk.
The mech form are not hard take out judging from the reviews, they have power and most likely more armor but are slow.Sea Manky said:I expect that in the end there will be effective but not overpowered ways for hawk/mechs to harass ground units, whether from the already announced ability to drop structures while flying, or from the capabilities of the mechs once landed. You'll want air superiority to prevent that just as you do in Warhawk. I wouldn't sweat it.
And hey, we still haven't see the equivalent of cluster bombs yet. >
I loved going stealth and hovering up behind the base on the archipelago map, or using it to hide behind structures when being chased. However, a foot soldier vs a warhawk in hover mode was pretty much sudden death for the soldier. This should give them a fighting chance provided they have the necessary weapon.
backbreaker65
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MoonsaultSlayer said:
My sentiments as well.
That is the reason why they change itevolution said:
http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/lightbox-interactive-project/1168126p1.html
woolley said:
There are ground pickups. Also killed enemies drop bagpacks.
Sea Manky said:I expect that in the end there will be effective but not overpowered ways for hawk/mechs to harass ground units, whether from the already announced ability to drop structures while flying, or from the capabilities of the mechs once landed. You'll want air superiority to prevent that just as you do in Warhawk. I wouldn't sweat it.
And hey, we still haven't see the equivalent of cluster bombs yet. >
Or that pink colored pick up.
I've been analyzing some videos again, and I saw the planes attack structures with MG fire, and destroy a ground mech with missiles. Breaking, flying low and strafing ground units should be possible.
this is one of the worst things that could happen in warhawk. Just jumping in to a random game to be cornered at the base with no way out. Glad they decided on thisLoudninja said:That is the reason why they change it
http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/lightbox-interactive-project/1168126p1.html
yencid said:
Or joining a game and having pro players take the warhawks and then not surround your base, but take out EVERYONE of your teams warhawks in an attempt to get into the air.
The pro-players playing in the "non-newbie" servers really killed the fun for me. After leveling up to the point of non-newbie status, you get thrown into the deepend with no chance for having a fun/even balanced game. The ranks were too big for the filters and over time, only the pro players were left to where it killed the fun.
I want server browsers, but at the same time I don't want the dominance of the veterans in my game. :/
Yes there are ground vehicles but they've only showed off the Jeep so far.The Lamp said:
Christopher Lennertznear said:Does anyone know who scored the theme? It's really beautiful.
http://twitter.com/#!/DylanJobe/status/69050209325428736
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
And unfair. I'm glad they found a way to balance this. I've actually always preferred if warhawks couldn't hover and instead could only perform flybys. I was missing hover earlier but not now.dralla said:
Jack Scofield
Member
Threw in Warhawk for old times sake, though since PSN is down, I had to mess around by myself.
Damn, I forgot how fantastic the sound design is in Warhawk, especially with a properly set-up surround sound system. The weapons all sound powerful due to a deep sub kick (especially the anti-air guns, hot damn). Hopefully this fantastic sound design carries over into Starhawk, as well.
Another feature that I appreciated in Warhawk was how projectiles cast light on the environment. Swarm missiles, for example, would cast a bluish-white light over the ground as they flew towards their target. Once again, I hope Starhawk does this too. It's a small thing that not many games bother with, but which add immensely to the entire experience.
And this is completely off-topic from the rest of my post, but nothing feels more powerful and badass than firing the dropship's guns. The look of it alone is fantastic.
Yes, all us Warhawk fans were disappointed they didn't dramatically change the gameplay (though an instant kill knife was in Warhawk, just to be clear).
Damn, I forgot how fantastic the sound design is in Warhawk, especially with a properly set-up surround sound system. The weapons all sound powerful due to a deep sub kick (especially the anti-air guns, hot damn). Hopefully this fantastic sound design carries over into Starhawk, as well.
Another feature that I appreciated in Warhawk was how projectiles cast light on the environment. Swarm missiles, for example, would cast a bluish-white light over the ground as they flew towards their target. Once again, I hope Starhawk does this too. It's a small thing that not many games bother with, but which add immensely to the entire experience.
And this is completely off-topic from the rest of my post, but nothing feels more powerful and badass than firing the dropship's guns. The look of it alone is fantastic.
TacticalFox88 said:
Yes, all us Warhawk fans were disappointed they didn't dramatically change the gameplay (though an instant kill knife was in Warhawk, just to be clear).
TacticalFox88
Banned
Am I the only one glad they didn't go the dudebro route of having low health, perks, killstreaks and insta kill knife?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
MoonsaultSlayer said:
Same, at least now on the ground there is an element of knowing the hawk is coming. He has to transform and fall to terra firma. With hover there is always a sense of impending doom being a lone guy on foot.
Which also makes me think of how nearly every death in Warhawk had that "oh shit" moment. Like hearing the hiss of a TOW or a howl of tank round. Very few deaths were instantaneous, which is something that should continue.
Uno Venova
Banned
I'm always happy that old multiplayer games that I love didn't fuck up and try to go that route, I'm looking at you Killzone 3.TacticalFox88 said:
The Frankman said:In honor of the Starhawk reveal... slider, Sea Manky, Tnntbltn and I humbly invite you people to the GAF Warhawk Clan Thread! Go post there and read the exploits of many of our greatest players!
You can skip to 300 If you want to see the good stuff... MY ARRIVAL TO [GAF] CLAN!
I'm ashamed to admit I left the clan cos it was so quiet. But I am uber excited for the Starhawk/GAF action.
I wish I could be included in the greats. Afraid not though. Jaeyden(?), nicksl(?), Sea Manky, Jack Scofield, dralla, Tnntbltn, carlos and, of course, The Frankman... those are the guys who'd make a difference.
No offence to those names I forgot, it's been so long!
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
TacticalFox88 said:
So now "dudebro" even refers to specific gameplay mechanics? Is there nothing that adjective cannot do?
theAntagonist
Member
TacticalFox88 said:
No you aren't the only one. I'm definitely relieved to see that it seems like they kept what made Warhawk great, intact. Even though the first Modern Warfare was a great game, it's legacy has been a plague to multiplayer shooters ever since in my opinion. Everyone wants a slice of that pie, so when someone decides to stick to their guns and not follow current industry trends, it makes me very happy!
Not everything needs perks, killstreaks, and quick kill times to be a great game.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I mean....French said:
to be fair, some of the things Crysis was hit for have to be seen in the context of time. In 2007 how many people had a rig that could do Crysis justice? No fuck that. How many people in 2010 had a rig that could do Crysis justice? Fewer and few. Crysis on low settings is nice, but you always feel like you're getting some fraction of the experience (which is somewhat true). Whereas when MW2 came out, it ran at its max potential with its simpler effects n' such at 60fps on standard-issue hardware at the time. Hell, even laptops were running MW2 at 60fps.
In that context, I don't think the critique of Crysis' visuals were unfair when directly compared to MW2. Different time period, different hardware requirements and optimization, different levels of expectation and potential.
This rest was just ridiculous...especially the "originality" issue...but I didn't find the Crysis vs MW2 segment troubling.
(((goes back to Crysis 2 on his i7 + 6950)))