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[Steam] Redfall failed to crack in top #100 during Launch Week
JackSparr0w
Banned
Age of Wonders 4 is fantastic well deserved.
Hot5pur
Member
Should not have hyped it as much, clearly ended up being gamepass fodder.
Makes me think M$ will be lazy about getting games into good shape and just release them as gamepass fodder if things go sideways. If you're releasing games for "free" on your service anyway on day one and you have a 7/10 on your hands, why bother making it any better since subscribers will be perfectly happy to accept it.
Makes me think M$ will be lazy about getting games into good shape and just release them as gamepass fodder if things go sideways. If you're releasing games for "free" on your service anyway on day one and you have a 7/10 on your hands, why bother making it any better since subscribers will be perfectly happy to accept it.
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
Someone should tweet this at the 2d art lady
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Alarm bells sounding off, YouTubers shredding the game, people talking about how bad it is on Twitter…
Of course it didn’t crack the top 100.
Glad to see Age of Wonders 4 take the top spot.
Of course it didn’t crack the top 100.
Glad to see Age of Wonders 4 take the top spot.
MOTM
Banned
What the hell are you on about?
Gears 5
Forza Horizon 5
Halo Infinite
MS Flight Simulator
Grounded
Pentiment
Age of Empires IV
Hi-Fi Rush
Minecraft Legends
Were all day one releases on Game Pass. And if not mistaken all scored 80+ on meta.
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Captain Toad
Banned
I feel like Microsoft is actually relieved. Any copies they sell are just going to further the outrage and disappointment.
I think they want to get the 60 FPS patch out and move as far away from this, as fast as possible.
I think they want to get the 60 FPS patch out and move as far away from this, as fast as possible.
feynoob
Banned
Captain Toad
Banned
Microsoft said GamePass is about 15% of their gaming revenue. I don’t think GP is the main factor here.
saintjules
Member
Agreed. Why this is even a thread I don't know.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Currently top 20 on Xbox Live.
Steam charts are borderline useless for Gamepass games.
Steam charts are borderline useless for Gamepass games.
Kilau
Member
graywolf323
Member
I’m still amazed that this is the game Microsoft thought was a good one to be the first with their hike to $70, for all the flack Sony got for that it’s been surprisingly quiet regarding Redfall
at least Nintendo is doing it with the new Zelda…
at least Nintendo is doing it with the new Zelda…
Hot5pur
Member
I think there is misinterpretation of my point. I'm not saying M$ will intentionally make lazy games for gamepass. What I am saying it may motivate them not to delay games and put out more half assed efforts if their games experience major setbacks. This is already happening across the industry with half broken games releasing, gamepass would just encourage more of this for M$.
Captain Toad
Banned
Well, Redfall has been touted as a big game for Xbox for a couple years, even opening and closing shows. And 100 is a lot of games.
Mowcno
Member
#22 Sea of ThievesA game you don't have to buy to play on PC isn't a top seller on PC
#44 Grounded
#66 Flight Simulator
#69 Forza Horizon 5
#79 Forza Horizon 4
#90 Fallout 76
#98 Age of Empires IV
Plenty of gamepass titles from MS charted in Redfall's launch week. Some of them over 100 weeks old. Gamepass isn't an excuse for this very poor result.
feynoob
Banned
They delayed starfield and redfall, that kind defeats your argument.
Redfall was hand free from them.
Ar¢tos
Member
Poster said "will be", future tense...
Hot5pur
Member
Some games, like Halo, they can't risk their reputation on. With redfall nothing was stopping them from delaying further and at least fixing the AI. I don't buy the argument that delaying it more would not have improved it. It was easier to cut their losses by having gamepass around.
Reckheim
Member
Millions you say.
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MOTM
Banned
kvltus lvlzvs
Banned
Man, I wish they would make another game like Prey.
Miniscule amount of pc gamers are signed to gamepass, and this is not even about top 10, it's about top 100 ffsA game you don't have to buy to play on PC isn't a top seller on PC
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graywolf323
Member
I’d prefer Dishonored 3 but I’d take another Prey
Hot5pur
Member
You'd be surprised how insightful 14 year olds can be compared to people who can only childishly attack other character instead of engaging with their ideas.
TheGodfather07
Member
Phil Spencer seems to enjoy it. He's always playing it. Maybe the only person in the world playing this game.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You don't $ay?
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Whatever your thoughts are on Gamepass, they sell their games on Steam and at retail. This notion that their games are meant to be handed out for free and they don’t push for quality is just inane console warring.
What ideas?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Starbuck2907
Member
Why buy a game when you can try it on gamepass for way less money? Especially when you’ve stacked gamepass for two years at $1 a month or whatever. I’m not saying the game is a hit, but who’s paying $60 or $70 when you can play it for much, much less?
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Hot5pur
Member
Again, not my point.
Of course they push for quality. They don't want gamepass to become a place for shovelware. What I am saying is gamepass, from time to time, can motivate them to skimp on quality if a game has particularly troublesome development. I can be an easy way out and still extract some value out of the game.
The case with Redfall, the AI is clearly something that could have used more time in the oven. Rather than delay further, they can just toss is on gamepass and call it a day. It just seems to me it's another avenue to cut losses without taking as much of a hit for releasing a half baked game.
There are already memes going around of "good enough for gamepass". Will this eventually lead to the average quality of first party Microsoft games going down? I don't mean they will be outright bad, just that there will be downward pressure on game quality.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Sea of thieves as sold well on steam. And Forza. It's just ass.A game you don't have to buy to play on PC isn't a top seller on PC
rhodesianshepard
Member
I wonder if Microsoft will share gamepass numbers, which I'm guessing will still be very good. It would be such a marketing fail if they did that. Might as well stamp "good enough for Gamepass" on the title