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yurinka
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You win!blackadde said:
This is how you balance well a game. Remember Daigo's parry awesomeness:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEWSO6NrQo
yurinka
Member
Yes, (also 1UP show) http://www.capcom.com/BBS/showpost.php?p=437090&postcount=30DTJAAAAM said:
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
What's interesting is that they've edited the photos of the 1UP guys so that you can't see what controllers they're using and thus work out which platform(s) it's coming out on.
You could argue that it's not a Wii game they're playing judged at how they appear to be holding the controllers but they could easily be using the "Classic" controller.
You could argue that it's not a Wii game they're playing judged at how they appear to be holding the controllers but they could easily be using the "Classic" controller.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Zave said:In my sweetest dream is a 2D fighter for XBLA, PSN, Wii Ware. Not happening.
It would be the killer app for downloadable console gaming, that is for sure.
darkressurection
Banned
So does this mean the game is farther along than we (or at least I) thought?
I am surprised they are already showing in playable form to the media.
I am surprised they are already showing in playable form to the media.
MisterHero
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psst... Smash Bros. has parrying and has the exact same effect as in SFIII in that it's faster than blocking. No one pays attention though. :lol_leech_ said:
So what's the difference between 3D and 2.5D in terms of a fighting game anyway? Isn't every 3D fighting game basically 2.5D? Any "3D" movement in games like tekken or soul calibur basically just equate to a quick dodge move...
It's not like the game is gonna play like Power Stone. (or is it?)
It's not like the game is gonna play like Power Stone. (or is it?)
GodfatherX
Member
different would be pixels vs. sprites, so far sprites have been a lot better at hit boxes and the likesykoex said:
whatever it is im really hyped, i just started playing sf3 this week, yes ver lttp, and im loving it
Oh when people say 2.5D they mean sprites on a 3D background? I thought by 2.5D they just meant 3D graphics, but with 2D gameplay.GodfatherX said:
If you think this game is gonna have ANY sprites after studying that trailer you have to be crazy. People can pretty much end any of that kind of discussion...
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
please PLEASE be a celshaded 3D
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
I would like to turn this thread into some SF fappage. Pics plz.
Iron_Scimitar
Banned
FoxSpirit said:
PLEASE PLEASE.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
YES PLEASE PLEASE!!!Ferrio said:
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Has it been announced for the Wii yet?
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I'll come back then.
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I'll come back then.
Bonerville High
Banned
Longshot fingers crossed for an arcade version, or in lieu of that a high quality (better than the 20th anniversary one) arcade stick with SF4 art on it.
The Main Event
Member
Some people here wish to NOT have parries?
WTF?
WTF?
rollingstart
Banned
parries are awesome.
im guessing those who want them gone still play SF2 religiously and just dont want to take the time to parry properly.
im guessing those who want them gone still play SF2 religiously and just dont want to take the time to parry properly.
B-B-B-But parries are difficult and whatever! Cue rolleyes. edit: Think of the casuals!The Main Event said:
I don't get the hate for parries. It was a mechanic that worked really really well and helped SF3 be the fighter it is today. Wanting to remove a feature like that is pretty absurd.
Hellraizah
Member
Of course, I would like them to ditch the parry system and copy Mark Of The Wolves "just defended" system.
WORLDWIDEWII
Member
head to head with GTA IV
You cant guarantee that parries will work in the context of SF4 like they did in SF3 that is why I opt for a whole new system honestly.
One thing that I like in 3d games is personalized counters for different characters. Sabakis in VF are cool because they only works on certain types of moves as well. Since SF4 will most likely be 3d in some form or fashion, id rather see character specific inputs in order to counter instead of just taps fwd or down on the joystick.
One thing that I like in 3d games is personalized counters for different characters. Sabakis in VF are cool because they only works on certain types of moves as well. Since SF4 will most likely be 3d in some form or fashion, id rather see character specific inputs in order to counter instead of just taps fwd or down on the joystick.
GalacticAE
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duffey said:
3s parrying wasn't perfect at all. Plus, other features in past fighting games have been removed in their respective sequels (chains from A1 to A2, Duo Team Activations from MvC1, amount of Alpha counters in A3 for each character, etc.) Parrying should be much more refined if ever implemented in SF4. Maybe something along the lines of a command input and an altered wiff animation framecount to decrease the punishment window.
3s didn't exactly go well for Capcom or the fighting scene so I'm not sure what you mean by it becoming the "fighter it is today". ST was much more successful for Capcom and is still considered much more balanced without parrying.
sevenchaos
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I wouldn't mind 2.5d if they made it look 2d. I mean some of the parts of the trailer looked 3d in that painted style. If the game looks like that it would be bad ass.
sykoex said:
True the 3D movement in Tekken is limited, but Soul Caliber actually uses 3D movement to a great degree. Both are considered full-blown 3D fighting games, though.
I love bringing up Battle Fantasia as maybe awareness of this game will somehow play a part in it coming to NA. BF is a good example of a 2.5D fighting game. Everything is rendered in 3D, but the camera and movement are locked to mimic 2D fighters. It gives me hope that the charm and gameplay of sprites can be duplicated using 3D models. If BF is any indication of what can be done, then I don't think we have anything to worry about if SFIV is "2.5D".
Screens:
720p on Taito's Type X2 boards.
courtesy: http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2007/01/battle-fantasia-screenshots.html
Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwjJa9l1cSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrwZJiE189k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EdsBhVSRts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y52zeHpenAw
It's probably just me, but I'm hoping they do something to shake up the fighting game genre a bit. There really hasn't been all that much change in the genre since Street Fighter 2 came out over 15 years ago. There have been small innovations like super moves, different button layouts, more intricate combos, and the ability to sidestep, but pretty much every fighting game these days is still firmly rooted in the standard SF2 set down. I think that if there's one franchise that can change things a bit, it's Street Fighter.
GalacticAE
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alkaline black said:
What? 3s didn't revitalize the arcade/fighting scene and it still remains as niche as ever.
gray_fox224
Junior Member
:lolEiji said:I just hope its nothing like this...
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Dali said:True the 3D movement in Tekken is limited, but Soul Caliber actually uses 3D movement to a great degree. Both are considered full-blown 3D fighting games, though.
I love bringing up Battle Fantasia as maybe awareness of this game will somehow play a part in it coming to NA. BF is a good example of a 2.5D fighting game. Everything is rendered in 3D, but the camera and movement are locked to mimic 2D fighters. It gives me hope that the charm and gameplay of sprites can be duplicated using 3D models. If BF is any indication of what can be done, then I don't think we have anything to worry about if SFIV is "2.5D".
Screens:
720p on Taito's Type X2 boards.
courtesy: http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2007/01/battle-fantasia-screenshots.html
Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwjJa9l1cSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrwZJiE189k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EdsBhVSRts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y52zeHpenAw
I Have hope
I have hope
Anyone care to help me make a list of stuff that HAS changed in fighting games since SFII? Let's see
-Chain Combos
-Super Moves
-Rolling/Dodging
-Parrying/Just Defense
-Custom Combos
-Helpers
-Helpful Taunts
-EX Moves
-Team games
-Air Dash
-Air Blocking
-Double/Triple jumping
-Faultless Defense
-Super Cancels
-Quick Recovery
-Instant Kills
-Chain Combos
-Super Moves
-Rolling/Dodging
-Parrying/Just Defense
-Custom Combos
-Helpers
-Helpful Taunts
-EX Moves
-Team games
-Air Dash
-Air Blocking
-Double/Triple jumping
-Faultless Defense
-Super Cancels
-Quick Recovery
-Instant Kills
Sure, but that kind of thinking also makes things like these happen:Ferrio said:Thinking like that makes shit like this happen:
Fighting games haven't changed because IT'S A FIGHTING GAME. If you fuck with the core element then it's no longer a fighting game.
I'm just saying, for example, why are there no fighting games designed around game controllers these days? Why not, for example, design a fighting game around the analog stick instead of designing it around digital movement?
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