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[-Pyromaniac-]

Wow....Birdie is just....not beatable with Ryu. I mean a good Birdie. It's just....there's nothing you can do inside and out. I'm sure someone will tell me other wise but in the match I just had. I just don't see it. Just don't. There was a counter for absolutely every strategy. Maybe the dude was just really good but wow.

 

[The Xtortionist]

Two matches in the last 30 Minutes. Servers pls

 

[Sheroking]

Bison seems tough for Chun. Does b.HK cleanly anti-air the headstomp? I should test it out in a match but I have too much trauma from the stupidity of that move in SF4.

 

[Karsticles]

Bison seems tough for Chun. Does b.HK cleanly anti-air the headstomp? I should test it out in a match but I have too much trauma from the stupidity of that move in SF4.

Stomp is so inconsistent for me. Sometimes it lands right next to my opponent. -_-

He's not wrong though.

I can't wait until the retail release, then we will get to play 16 characters that won't block.

I'm too busy mastering the depths of Bison. :-D

 

[Producer]

Nash's air slash (forgot the name) is safe? Cant seem to punish it.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Nash's air slash (forgot the name) is safe? Cant seem to punish it.

Yeah its safe on block. Either hit him before while he's still in the air or keep blocking.

 

[jailbird20022]

Wow....Birdie is just....not beatable with Ryu. I mean a good Birdie. It's just....there's nothing you can do inside and out. I'm sure someone will tell me other wise but in the match I just had. I just don't see it. Just don't. There was a counter for absolutely every strategy. Maybe the dude was just really good but wow.

Got a recording on hand?

need to get my timing and strats right for the ryu's that like to panic hadoken after I kill half their bar.

 

[mattp]

lol birdie's idle animation is an attack

 

[Sheroking]

Is there some reason you can't just lame out Chun Li? She's the only character in this beta without a good way to deal with projectiles. Her own projectile is the weakest in the Beta IMO. Her mix-ups are really not good. That Hazanshu esque overhead stops for a second as if to say "please stand block now" and everything else is successfully blocked low. Her jump is floaty and her cross-up is kinda bad.

She's got great buttons: cr.mk, f.mp, b.hk+s.lk for anti-airs, etc but if you don't engage with her I think you can frustrate her.

By far the least of the Beta characters IMO. I have a like 90% win ratio so far with her, but the march of lesser players makes her options seem better than they maybe are. Next one I face, I'm just gonna down back, anti-air and punish legs and see how it goes.

 

[Zissou]

Bison seems tough for Chun. Does b.HK cleanly anti-air the headstomp? I should test it out in a match but I have too much trauma from the stupidity of that move in SF4.

Yes- he cannot headstomp you ever.

 

[joffocakes]

I can link light punch after Nash's lk.Moonsault on Ryu but it doesn't seem to work on Bison? Is it his height?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Got a recording on hand?

need to get my timing and strats right for the ryu's that like to panic hadoken after I kill half their bar.

no recording but I tried that it didn't do shit. I wish I could tell you more but I tried to erase it from my mind :|

I tried range, I tried staying close, jumping was a complete no go. There was literally not a single thing I could think of doing.

 

[pizzacat]

Karstickles (?) I almost won against a CAMMY using what little I know of bison but I was too scared to do anything


He is defensive right? I tried to keep pressure with up down P but she read that quick

 

[ShaperofStories]

Wow....Birdie is just....not beatable with Ryu. I mean a good Birdie. It's just....there's nothing you can do inside and out. I'm sure someone will tell me other wise but in the match I just had. I just don't see it. Just don't. There was a counter for absolutely every strategy. Maybe the dude was just really good but wow.

Birdie is a character that reaps big rewards off of successful reads. If your playstyle remains varied, he'll have a hard time dealing with you.

Also, the variations in the timings of your chargeable hadoukens while in V-trigger give Birdie a REAL struggle.

Use your long range tools and punish his efforts to get around them.

 

[Producer]

Yeah its safe on block. Either hit him before while he's still in the air or keep blocking.

Ah gotcha. Played against a wild nash mashing that with bad lag, couldnt do anything but hold that.

 

[Karsticles]

Karstickles (?) I almost won against a CAMMY using what little I know of bison but I was too scared to do anything


He is defensive right? I tried to keep pressure with up down P but she read that quick

Watch some of my gameplay videos to see how to use him. The key is to always be charging Knee Press. Use it to get in and chip, but if it's blocked you need to be ready to defend. If it hits, go into Psycho Inferno chains for big chip/damage. His jump-ins are good, don't be afraid to go for them sometimes.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Is anyone else getting lots of matches with poor connection quality? I'm not usually one to complain, but it has gotten so bad that I can't get moves off at times or will do something by accident. It's frustrating trying to get something very basic off and watching nothing happen or the wrong input get registered, win or lose.

It wasn't this bad for me during the stress tests.

 

[The Xtortionist]

Yeah, fuck this. Only got three matches in the past hour. Hopefully they get the servers sorted out.

 

[Karsticles]

I am getting matches every 3-5 minutes.

Just had an epic Bison match where he tried to super as an anti-air. So I used my super while in the air to stall. Then we continued in the neutral, haha.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I'm getting matches every 2 mins I think. No lag at all yet.

 

[Clawww]

getting games but all laggy

not even gonna play these out this time. free double perfects

 

[The Xtortionist]

You guys must be extremely lucky. My connection shouldn't be an issue - I'm wired and on the West Coast. Was literally sitting in training for the past hour and only got three matches.

 

[Producer]

You guys must be extremely lucky. My connection shouldn't be an issue - I'm wired and on the West Coast. Was literally sitting in training for the past hour and only got three matches.

I'm on the west coast and wired too. Getting matches every 3-5 min or so. Sorry man

 

[Clawww]

You guys must be extremely lucky. My connection shouldn't be an issue - I'm wired and on the West Coast. Was literally sitting in training for the past hour and only got three matches.

this might have been placebo but I meant to mention it here--after getting like 1 game per hour on Friday, I decided to do a safe mode update on my PS4. turns out there was something to be installed (why it didn't do so after normal restarts/PSN connections, I have no fucking idea). the next was slightly better. could be all random, though, but fuck it, I'd try it.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

That feel when you catch someone on an off game. Faced a high ass ranking Nash and perfected him on the match point. Sorry man Happens to the best of us.

 

[pizzacat]

Watch some of my gameplay videos to see how to use him. The key is to always be charging Knee Press. Use it to get in and chip, but if it's blocked you need to be ready to defend. If it hits, go into Psycho Inferno chains for big chip/damage. His jump-ins are good, don't be afraid to go for them sometimes.

His jumping HP won me two rounds in a row I'll be sure to look at the videos

Link for the channel

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Matches coming slow tonight but at least I just got to fight another ultra laggy Nash.

Argh birdie's ex headbutt is too safe!

 

[Karsticles]

His jumping HP won me two rounds in a row I'll be sure to look at the videos

Link for the channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8XyfyFtAkiWPRuW6mHB9sQ

 

[paolo11]

Any tips on beating a Chun Li player?

 

[Clawww]

laggy cammy is by far the dumbest shit. it's impossible to deal with the walk peed and jump timings

i mean i probably would have lost badly regardless but =(

 

[gnomed]

Karstickles (?) I almost won against a CAMMY using what little I know of bison but I was too scared to do anything


He is defensive right? I tried to keep pressure with up down P but she read that quick

Watch some of my gameplay videos to see how to use him. The key is to always be charging Knee Press. Use it to get in and chip, but if it's blocked you need to be ready to defend. If it hits, go into Psycho Inferno chains for big chip/damage. His jump-ins are good, don't be afraid to go for them sometimes.

I would add he has good pokes. Cr. MP is my go-to attack when getting pressured on the ground and standing mk. His cr. Hp is decent for anti-airs just watch for the opponent jump-ins and cross-ups when charging down-back most of the time.

 

[Pappasman]

I have no idea how to fight bison as chun. His normals are ridiculous.

 

[Karsticles]

I have no idea how to fight bison as chun. His normals are ridiculous.

Kikoken.

 

[Permanently A]

This game is fucking hard. I can't even hadoken consistently.

 

[Clawww]

I can't beat cammy as ryu

I can't

 

[akachan ningen]

I can't beat cammy as ryu

I can't

Ryu doesn't really have bad match ups. Just find Cammy weak point.

 

[bob_arctor]

No idea Birdie's BullHorn move had an EX Version. Anyone know any good uses for it? Does it have armor on initial rush?

 

[LakeEarth]

No idea Birdie's BullHorn move had an EX Version. Anyone know any good uses for it? Does it have armor on initial rush?

It has armor. So far that move has been nothing but trouble for me when I've tried it, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

 

[bob_arctor]

It has armor. So far that move has been nothing but trouble for me when I've tried it, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

Yeah, just tried it, thought it would at least be safe at max range if blocked, but nope. Looks cool as hell though.

 

[Clawww]

this is getting kind of funny. I've only been fighting chuns and cammys. beating the former handily and have yet to win against the latter.

 

[bob_arctor]

this is getting kind of funny. I've only been fighting chuns and cammys. beating the former handily and have yet to win against the latter.

Cammy was a mistake. She's nothing but trash.

 

[Karsticles]

this is getting kind of funny. I've only been fighting chuns and cammys. beating the former handily and have yet to win against the latter.

Really? The secret to Cammy is just patience. She doesn't have any great neutral tools. I think I've lost to one Cammy so far, and he was just a boss with the oki game after a throw.

 

[Skilletor]

I haven't lost with cammy yet. Lost to a couple. People like to do too many hooligans. Crush counters city.

 

[Resolution]

Thank you for letting us know.

Yeah no problem. If you need more information let me know.

 

[pizzacat]

Lvl 8 nash now I'm loving him but I want to put him down for bison for a bit ill be checking your shit out now karst

 

[bob_arctor]

It has armor. So far that move has been nothing but trouble for me when I've tried it, but maybe there's something I'm missing.

Heh. I baited a Nash crescent kick on his wakeup and ate the first hit with armor and gored him for the win.

 

[akachan ningen]

I haven't fought a Chun Li in two days. Cmon guys she's fun!

 

[paolo11]

I haven't fought a Chun Li in two days. Cmon guys she's fun!

I want to fight her so bad because she is my weakness(and my fave lady sf character too )

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

I'm learning slow and steadily in the SFV beta but it feels painful to lose so much and to such obvious things. Street Fighter is hard with a DS4, and that's my john lol.

 

[LakeEarth]

Heh. I baited a Nash crescent kick on his wakeup and ate the first hit with armor and gored him for the win.

Beat anyone with the banana or can yet? So satisfying. I even tried to beat someone with the bugger the other day but it takes way too long to happen (they can get stunned, get up, shake it off and hit you before the idle animation even starts).