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[~Kinggi~]

Thankfully these asshats will get what they deserve, those thinking "oh too harsh!" or "gees get a sense of humor", tough shit. Go smoke some and talk shit about the 'man'. You'll feel better im sure.

 

[empty vessel]

I very much disagree with your assertion that it was harmless.

Actually, you're right. Poor choice of words. What I meant to convey by that was that at the end of the day, nobody (as far as i know) suffered lasting physical injury. That doesn't make it harmless.

I would simply much prefer that harsh language be directed at the act rather than the people. At least in terms of casting judgment on the entirety of their beings based on one thing they did.

 

[NaughtyCalibur]

This forum has no fucking sense of humor.

I have a huge sense of humor and tend to think GAF is overly PC and prudent a lot of the time, but even I'm inclined to agree with GAF for the most part in this thread. No, I don't think they deserve serious jail time (a month should do it), but it's a really shitty thing to do, and the only reason I can say this is because, as I stated above, I have been really fucking high before and it wasn't exactly a good time.

 

[Puddles]

Humor about what? I wouldn't want to put anyone through the paranoid episodes I had while smoking and it was my fucking choice to smoke.

Right, it kind of sucks, but so does putting a bicycle lock around someone's neck when he passes out drunk on the couch and then leaving him a series of clues to find the key.

It's definitely over the line, but it's more of a "one day in the pillory" over the line, as opposed to "a year of hard labor" over the line.

I wouldn't give them a single day of jail time. Community service is a perfectly adequate punishment in this case.

 

[pompidu]

But what they deserve are misdemeanor charges, and they're getting felony charges, so... they don't get what they deserve?

What they deserve will be up to the judge. They will face the 4 felony charges.

send them to federal with the rest of the drug dealers

Let see, someone selling drugs to people who want to buy them or someone poisoning a whole class with a drug without them knowing.

 

[Stet]

Right, it kind of sucks, but so does putting a bicycle lock around someone's neck when he passes out drunk on the couch and then leaving him a series of clues to find the key.

It's definitely over the line, but it's more of a "one day in the pillory" over the line, as opposed to "a year of hard labor" over the line.

I wouldn't give them a single day of jail time. Community service is a perfectly adequate punishment in this case.

Yes, now imagine putting a bicycle lock around the necks of your entire class and professor.

 

[Puddles]

What they deserve will be up to the judge. They will face the 4 felony charges.

And it's ridiculous that those charges were filed.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

And it's ridiculous that those charges were filed.

It's ridiculous that you think they shouldn't have been.

 

[pompidu]

And it's ridiculous that those charges were filed.

Going by what was said in the op, the charges fit the crime to a T.

 

[bigkrev]

Right, it kind of sucks, but so does putting a bicycle lock around someone's neck when he passes out drunk on the couch and then leaving him a series of clues to find the key.

Key difference here is that the person chose to drink- the only thing the students did was show up for class, and the professor showed up to his place of employment. I don't see how thats a valid comparison.

2 weeks to a month sounds about right in regards to jail time

 

[CornBurrito]

Right, it kind of sucks, but so does putting a bicycle lock around someone's neck when he passes out drunk on the couch and then leaving him a series of clues to find the key.

Had no idea bicycle locks were mind altering substances, that are sometimes forbidden in certain religions.

 

[Xeke]

And it's ridiculous that those charges were filed.

Yeah.

Had no idea bicycle locks were mind altering substances.

It's just weed.

 

[Exodus]

GHB was originally developed to treat narcolepsy and cataplexy. It's been used to treat alcoholism and in the manner I was introduced to it was to increase athletic performance.

Thank the gods someone isn't stupid as hell.

And here is some new

Argument from "you're a hypocrite."

Except I'm not. Spiking punch is equally vile to spiking brownies with weed.

Drugging someone without their consent is evil. By your logic, murdering one person fails to be evil because of the existence of mass murder.

No, it would have been evil if they had the intention to do harm. Nice try in making a totally wrong comparison. I never said they don't deserve punishment. Making them learn a lesson doesn't mean they need to go to jail.

 

[Skeyser]

I think it'd be quite scary to get high out of the blue, especially if you've never been high before.

There's a big difference between getting high intentionally and getting high when you have no idea you took drugs.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Key difference here is that the person chose to drink- the only thing the students did was show up for class, and the professor showed up to his place of employment. I don't see how thats a valid comparison.

2 weeks to a month sounds about right in regards to jail time

If they are sentenced to prison/jail for even one of those felonies it will be for a year minimum (not counting early release)

They could quite literally be in prison/jail for 4 years.

 

[Escape Goat]

People debating xeke...look at his avatar. this wont go anywhere.

 

[Alucrid]

Thank the gods someone isn't stupid as hell.

And here is some new



No, it would have been evil if they had the intention to do harm. Nice try in making a totally wrong comparison. I never said they don't deserve punishment. Making them learn a lesson doesn't mean they need to go to jail.

Prohibited from ever using or possessing marijuana again with monthly drug tests. They'd probably choose a year of jail.

 

[CornBurrito]

It's just weed.

Which is a mind altering substance that some people choose not to partake in. Some religions forbid it, some people have severe reactions to it.

What's so hard about not drugging someone without their consent?

 

[Xeke]

Which is a mind altering substance that some people choose not to partake in. Some religions forbid it, some people have severe reactions to it.

What's so hard about not drugging someone without their consent?

And again I'll say it was a bad idea and wrong but it wasn't malicious and I don't think they are sociopaths. Not all drugs are created equal. Give them community service and be done with it.

What good for society comes about by throwing them in jail?

People debating xeke...look at his avatar. this wont go anywhere.

I'm just bitter because my fantasy team shit the bed.

 

[Exodus]

And again I'll say it was a bad idea and wrong but it wasn't malicious and I don't think they are sociopaths. Not all drugs are created equal. Give them community service and be done with it.

What good for society comes about by throwing them in jail?

You mean not malicious.

 

[Xeke]

You mean not malicious.

I edited too fast for you.

 

[pigeon]

No, it would have been evil if they had the intention to do harm.

This is just a tedious moral labyrinth. If I drive drunk, I don't mean to hurt anybody, but my negligence and lack of self-awareness may cause me to do so anyway, and we are agreed as a society that that level of negligence should be punished as if it were intentional harm. So this idea of "malice matters" is really irrelevant both to the law and to the specific consequences of their actions -- which, obviously, happen regardless of whether they were intended or not.

If they're really "good" people, then they'll have the opportunity to show that in their response to the situation -- apologizing, acknowledging fault, and pleading guilty. Coincidentally, these are also the things that would probably lead to them getting less or no jail time.

 

[NullPointer]

What good for society comes about by throwing them in jail?

To get them to realize its not funny, and to discourage others from pulling similar pranks.

This is just a tedious moral labyrinth. If I drive drunk, I don't mean to hurt anybody, but my negligence and lack of self-awareness may cause me to do so anyway, and we are agreed as a society that that level of negligence should be punished as if it were intentional harm. So this idea of "malice matters" is really irrelevant both to the law and to the specific consequences of their actions -- which, obviously, happen regardless of whether they were intended or not.

If they're really "good" people, then they'll have the opportunity to show that in their response to the situation -- apologizing, acknowledging fault, and pleading guilty. Coincidentally, these are also the things that would probably lead to them getting less or no jail time.

Very well put.

 

[Risible]

meh, THC is harmless


still rude as hell though.

Uh, no. What if the unsuspecting victims drove afterwards? What if they hurt themselves or others driving stoned? What if they got pulled over and lost their license? The list goes on and on. Fucking morons.

 

[CornBurrito]

And again I'll say it was a bad idea and wrong but it wasn't malicious and I don't think they are sociopaths. Not all drugs are created equal. Give them community service and be done with it.

What good for society comes about by throwing them in jail?

Who are you talking to? What are you talking about? .jif

On like the first page I said prison time would be excessive. I've said it wasn't malicious, but still scummy. I view it as scummy because it showed an extreme lack of consideration.

This is just a tedious moral labyrinth. If I drive drunk, I don't mean to hurt anybody, but my negligence and lack of self-awareness may cause me to do so anyway, and we are agreed as a society that that level of negligence should be punished as if it were intentional harm. So this idea of "malice matters" is really irrelevant both to the law and to the specific consequences of their actions -- which, obviously, happen regardless of whether they were intended or not.

If they're really "good" people, then they'll have the opportunity to show that in their response to the situation -- apologizing, acknowledging fault, and pleading guilty. Coincidentally, these are also the things that would probably lead to them getting less or no jail time.

Thank you.

 

[FO-totality]

If I got drugged without knowing, I'd probably freak the hell out too. I understand the probably thought it was a "prank" but it's still really fucked up.

I just hope that none of the students were heavy commuters and they had to drive after that.

 

[Matt]

What high school did you go to? I must have gone to a strange one where most of the students were drinking at parties on the weekend and would think such a thing is funny.

And if someone died in a car crash because the punch at a party was spiked? And if a girl got date raped because she was too drunk to resist? And if a woman there was pregnant and damaged her baby because she was consuming alcohol without realizing it?

Seriously, how the FUCK are these possibilities funny?

 

[Puddles]

It's ridiculous that you think they shouldn't have been.

I didn't say no charges should have been filed. Just not felony charges.

It's pretty clear who in this thread has any perspective of just what the word "felony" entails.

 

[Exodus]

This is just a tedious moral labyrinth. If I drive drunk, I don't mean to hurt anybody, but my negligence and lack of self-awareness may cause me to do so anyway, and we are agreed as a society that that level of negligence should be punished as if it were intentional harm. So this idea of "malice matters" is really irrelevant both to the law and to the specific consequences of their actions -- which, obviously, happen regardless of whether they were intended or not.

If they're really "good" people, then they'll have the opportunity to show that in their response to the situation -- apologizing, acknowledging fault, and pleading guilty. Coincidentally, these are also the things that would probably lead to them getting less or no jail time.

I agree they should be punished. If it were my kids I'd be pretty damn pissed off, what if my kid has a condition like having an asthma attack? I don't think who did it deserves jail time either though. It's screwed up there's no two ways about it but that still does not mean they intended to hurt my kid and I do want them to learn that it's wrong to do that. Jail will not do that.

 

[Aquavelvaman]

I'd be so pissed if someone did that to me. Imagine if you were on probation and were being tested regularly, or if you were applying for a job that required a test. I don't agree with drug testing for jobs, but if some jerk got me high when I didn't even want to be and that screwed me over some how...

Hell, just imagine if you were cramming for a final, or you had a family member to take care of, or you needed to do some task that required you to be cold sober. It's REALLY important to me that I be in charge of whether I'm intoxicated or not...

 

[TheExodu5]

Right, it kind of sucks, but so does putting a bicycle lock around someone's neck when he passes out drunk on the couch and then leaving him a series of clues to find the key.

It's definitely over the line, but it's more of a "one day in the pillory" over the line, as opposed to "a year of hard labor" over the line.

I wouldn't give them a single day of jail time. Community service is a perfectly adequate punishment in this case.

If you haven't had a paranoid episode or bad trip with weed, you don't know what you're talking about. As someone who's experienced two severe episodes with weed, I can tell you that to me, those were the worst experiences of my life. I would never want to put someone through that without their consent.

 

[Xeke]

And if someone died in a car crash because the punch at a party was spiked? And if a girl got date raped because she was too drunk to resist? And if a girl their was pregnant and damaged her baby because she was consuming alcohol without realizing it?

Seriously, how the FUCK are these possibilities funny?

They aren't. But they aren't what somebody is thinking about when doing it.

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I'd be so pissed if someone did that to me. Imagine if you were on probation and were being tested regularly, or if you were applying for a job that required a test. I don't agree with drug testing for jobs, but if some jerk got me high when I didn't even want to be and that screwed me over some how...

Hell, just imagine if you were cramming for a final, or you had a family member to take care of, or you needed to do some task that required you to be cold sober. It's REALLY important to me that I be in charge of whether I'm intoxicated or not...

I imagine you'd be given a pass given the media around this story.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I didn't say no charges should have been filed. Just not felony charges.

It's pretty clear who in this thread has any perspective of just what the word "felony" entails.

Yeah, an apparently you aren't one of them. Felony charges follow the crimes they committed.

 

[SpectreFire]

Anyone who tampers with other people's food is a piece of shit.

Doubly so when you're forcibly feeding them drugs.

Fuck them.

 

[LOZLINK]

I'm a daily smoker, but I would never ever ever wish edibles upon an unsuspecting person. That shit is not to be taken lightly.

 

[Xeke]

Yeah, an apparently you aren't one of them. Felony charges follow the crimes they committed.

So you think what happened is serious enough to basically end their lives? Why not the death penalty? Good luck getting a good job for the rest of your life if you have a felony on your record.

 

[Puddles]

Yeah, an apparently you aren't one of them. Felony charges follow the crimes they committed.

In the United States, the federal government generally considers a crime punishable with incarceration for one year or less to be a misdemeanor.[1] All other crimes are considered felonies.

You seriously think this deserves more than a year of jail time? No trolling.

If you haven't had a paranoid episode or bad trip with weed, you don't know what you're talking about. As someone who's experienced two severe episodes with weed, I can tell you that to me, those were the worst experiences of my life. I would never want to put someone through that without their consent.

I've had severe panic disorder in the past. I know exactly what you're talking about. But do you understand what 1+ year of jail time is? That punishment does not fit this crime. I'm sorry, it just doesn't.

 

[Wyndstryker]

Considering I know someone who died due to a spiked drink (Kept drinking and eventually OD since he didn't know it was spiked) putting drugs of any kind into food or beverages isn't a joke and shouldn't be taken as one. Punishments should be severe as people have gotten ill or even died in such scenarios. This is the same territory as drinking and driving. Even if the intention to cause harm isn't there, you did something so stupid that you need to be punished so reality can set in.

Parents discipline their kids for stupid things. The law drops it's own form of discipline when people do stupid things.

 

[Matt]

They aren't. But they aren't what somebody is thinking about when doing it.

Right, so they were commiting criminal negligence. Which is an element of a felony.

 

[LOZLINK]

So you think what happened is serious enough to basically end their lives? Why not the death penalty? Good luck getting a good job for the rest of your life if you have a felony on your record.

Cmon son. What about if some of these people have never smoked before and all of a sudden edibles? I mean, people need to fucking think, edibles are no joke.

 

[Zeth]

Hope this doesn't fuck up the legalization movement there. Fucking idiots.

 

[BocoDragon]

I've been smoking weed for 15 years... But pot brownies are actually crazy intense. If they kicked in while you were driving it'd actually be a hazard. It isn't "just weed" if you ingest it.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

You seriously think this deserves more than a year of jail time? No trolling.

Go look up the crimes listed and answer your own question. Btw, I explained what felony was earlier so not sure who you're posting that for.


As for what was done here? I absolutely think the max punishment they should be facing is a year for each felony. But I also know they won't get anything near that.

 

[SpectreFire]

So you think what happened is serious enough to basically end their lives? Why not the death penalty? Good luck getting a good job for the rest of your life if you have a felony on your record.

Well maybe they should've thought of that before they fed people drugged laced food.

They did something terrible to people, and they're paying the consequence for it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

[CornBurrito]

They aren't. But they aren't what somebody is thinking about when doing it.

Criminal negligence.

 

[VanWinkle]

And it's ridiculous that those charges were filed.

Do you think the felonies they got didn't describe what they did?

 

[TheExodu5]

I've had severe panic disorder in the past. I know exactly what you're talking about. But do you understand what 1+ year of jail time is? That punishment does not fit this crime. I'm sorry, it just doesn't.

I never said that. You say they deserve "1 day in the pillowry". This is far more serious than that.

 

[wenis]

I've gotten paranoid a couple times, one time included thinking I was going to suffer some sort of heart attack. It's not funny to do that to someone.

which time was that

 

[Devolution]

What matters is that they drugged people with the intent to entertain themselves. So in essence: they didn't care about what might have happened to their victims as a result of their actions. Anyone telling me this isn't serious needs to re-evaluate what they consider harmless pranks.

which time was that

Took too many hits of some really strong stuff because I wasn't aware of the potency. One of the types we have here gets me really high, time slows down, senses are muted. It's easy for me to get a little paranoid about it rather than ride it out.

 

[RS4-]

I'm all for making an example of them. Then again it doesn't deter other stupid shit like drunk driving, etc.