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Students feed unsuspecting classmates and professor pot brownies.

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Conor 419 said:
A felony is a crime punishable by death right?

Yes, I agree that they messed up. Yes, I agree that they deserve some long term, strict punishment for this, involving plenty of community service giving presentations to high school kids on drugs, their effects and the multitude of hidden dangers behind them. I am not however, prepared to consider these kids as amongst the lowest of the low, when they are quite probably, not bad people, but simply just stupid.

If they've been exposed Marajuana in such a way that plenty of people amongst my age group have, then they probably didn't even imagine for a second how dire the consequences could have been for those around them.
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People already educated you about felonies. Death is a punishable offense if someone committed pre-meditated murder typically not for slipping drugs into people's food or drink. Even if people were to die, death would not be on the table since murder/killing wasn't the intent.

I honestly do not buy that they were just stupid. This is something planned which basically means they could back out at any time or actually think their actions through. They did neither. I'm going to go ahead and assume that since they also baked it they have experience with pot. Anyone with experience in smoking weed knows the effects of this drug, including the negative ones. For someone to be willing to subject others to this, (especially since they were unable to process what was happening to them with the knowledge that they ingested a drug) makes them malicious assholes who deserve a stiff penalty.
 
DrForester said:
Tricking people into eating pot. Not cool.


This however is hilarious.

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That's amazing.
 
Guevara said:
Hospitalized, really?
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If you don't expect the high that you'll get from consuming marijuana, (especially when you're not aware you consumed it) you'll likely start thinking something really bad is happening and that would put your mind in a very defensive state.
 
Matt said:
No, a "felony" is simply a crime one step above a misdemeanor, which can mean a prison sentence, or, in an extreme case, execution.

In no way does felony = death sentence.

You have not answered the question of how your opinion of this situation would change if a death, or other serious injury, had occurred.
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I didn't think it equaled the death sentence, just that I believed that the death sentence was a serious consideration as a result of a 'felony'. I'm not really familiar with U.S law, sorry.

If a death had occurred? I can't say it would have changed at all.

The situation would have been more tragic, but assuming that there was no malicious intent and that they truly expected this to be a harmless prank, how could I think worse of them? They'd still be the same stupid kids who didn't think their ideas through.

I'm thankful that nobody died, and now I'm hoping that other teens will learn from this.
 
Makes me think of that one 20 something idiot who was trashed at a tailgating party and got into it with a cop. I'll never forget his defense attorney repeatedly calling him "Just a kid who made a mistake".

Sorry dudes, when you hit 18, you're a legal consenting adult. People really need to recognize there are consequences for sordid behavior.
 
Conor 419 said:
I didn't think it equaled the death sentence, just that I believed that it was a serious consideration of a 'felony'. I'm not really familiar with U.S law, sorry.

If a death had occurred? I can't say it would have changed at all.

The situation would have been more tragic, but assuming that there was no malicious intent and that they truly expected this to be a harmless prank, how could I think worse of them? They'd still be the same stupid kids who didn't think their ideas through.

I'm thankful that nobody died, and now I'm hoping that other teens will learn from this.
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You know how they'll learn? By seeing the punishments received by other pranksters of this nature before someone has to tragically lose their life or something along those lines.
 
Conor 419 said:
I didn't think it equaled the death sentence, just that I believed that the death sentence was a serious consideration as a result of a 'felony'. I'm not really familiar with U.S law, sorry.

If a death had occurred? I can't say it would have changed at all.

The situation would have been more tragic, but assuming that there was no malicious intent and that they truly expected this to be a harmless prank, how could I think worse of them? They'd still be the same stupid kids who didn't think their ideas through.

I'm thankful that nobody died, and now I'm hoping that other teens will learn from this.
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Why you insist on calling them teens just because one is 19 baffles me. At 19 and 21 they should be well aware that drugging people without their knowledge is a serious fucking offense.
 
Conor 419 said:
I didn't think it equaled the death sentence, just that I believed that the death sentence was a serious consideration as a result of a 'felony'. I'm not really familiar with U.S law, sorry.

If a death had occurred? I can't say it would have changed at all.
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Would've been bumped up to a manslaughter charge.
 
Misdemeanor is a crime punishable by under 1 year in prison, anything over that is a felony offense. There are varying degrees of both.
 
You know how they'll learn? By seeing the punishments received by other pranksters of this nature before someone has to tragically lose their life or something along those lines.
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But I have never disputed that they should receive a strict punishment, I just think calling them scum is pre-emptive when we don't know how this entire thing came to action.

Why you insist on calling them teens just because one is 19 baffles me. At 19 and 21 they should be well aware that drugging people without their knowledge is a serious fucking offense.
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Yeah, they should, but I doubt they were expecting the punishment they're about to receive, which is enough to make me think their actions were simply a result of excess stupidity, rather than malice.

They're roughly my age, I know plenty of people my age that probably wouldn't think through all of the consequences of something like this.

Would've been bumped up to a manslaughter charge.
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My opinion of the events....
 
Conor 419 said:
But I have never disputed that they should receive a strict punishment, I just think calling them scum is pre-emptive when we don't know how this entire thing came to action.
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I don't think you need to be malicious to be scum. You can just be dangerously thoughtless.

For example someone who gets super drunk and then drives is scum, even if they don't get in the car with the intent to crash into and murder another person.

In my opinion.
 
Conor 419 said:
Yeah, they should, but I doubt they were expecting the punishment they're about to receive, which is enough to make me think their actions were simply a result of excess stupidity, rather than malice.

They're roughly my age, I know plenty of people my age that probably wouldn't think through all of the consequences of something like this.
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as someone who was convicted of a felony at the age of 24, the law does not make concessions for stupidity (and in many cases, exploits it, but that's another discussion) nor should it. looking back i got off VERY light, even for a first-time offender, but my crime was non-violent and had no direct victim(s). these kids violated a basic right that people are entitled to (free will). they deserve a strict punishment.

tl;dr - they'll probably plea bargain to a lesser charge, serve minimal jail time, community service, and stiff fees/fines/penalties.
 
PatMcAtee said:
Even pretty heavy stoners cannot take some of the edibles they have out now. Joey Diaz, a regular on Joe Rogan's podcast, had these really hardcore cookies which another stoner ate without realizing, and this guy, who was also a pretty heavy stoner but not as much so as Joey Diaz, had some problems dealing with the effects of the cookie.
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Are you high right now?
 
If you're going to do this, you have to bring the brownies early while no one is looking. If anyone asks who brought them, say you don't know.
 
Man, I wish my friends pulled pranks like that on me.

No, I don't think you should pull it on people who wouldn't agree to it if they knew

KillGore said:
I've always wondered how pot brownies taste like. Does it taste like normal chocolate brownies or different?
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The two times I tried it, it was a little grassy but the chocolate was pretty effective at covering it up. I'd imagine really well made ones would taste almost indistinguishable from regular brownies
 
Conor 419 said:
But I have never disputed that they should receive a strict punishment, I just think calling them scum is pre-emptive when we don't know how this entire thing came to action.



Yeah, they should, but I doubt they were expecting the punishment they're about to receive, which is enough to make me think their actions were simply a result of excess stupidity, rather than malice.

They're roughly my age, I know plenty of people my age that probably wouldn't think through all of the consequences of something like this.



My opinion of the events....
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It's a planned thing if you're baking a laced edible. Just so you know. So that means they went to the trouble of doing this and didn't think at any given time what it would do or the consequences of their actions. And just so you remember, we're talking about drugging people without their consent. Even young folks can realize the moral implications of such an action and these people were 19 and 21. That's well above an age where they could recognize that what they were doing was wrong. I'd give you idiocy if it was a spur of the moment or reactionary event but let's run this down.

1. They looked up how to bake the brownies
2. They baked the brownies
3. They took the brownies to school
4. They had people eat the brownies

At some point it entered into their minds that they wanted people to ingest the brownies but at none of the points 1-3 did they bother to stop and think about it.
 
Conor 419 said:
But I have never disputed that they should receive a strict punishment, I just think calling them scum is pre-emptive when we don't know how this entire thing came to action.



Yeah, they should, but I doubt they were expecting the punishment they're about to receive, which is enough to make me think their actions were simply a result of excess stupidity, rather than malice.

They're roughly my age, I know plenty of people my age that probably wouldn't think through all of the consequences of something like this.



My opinion of the events....
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Holy god, what is wrong with you? I have a 6 year old kid, i punish him when he does bad things, you know what? He nearly always expects the punishment he receives, it's a thing called "Consequences" If these people didn't bother to think about the consequences they are going to suffer, that is not the laws fault. These people chose this course of action, whether or not they are stupid, whether or not they are "kids", they chose. The law doesn't say "Welllllllll, you're just dumb kids who didn't know drugging other people is wrong." It's a cause and effect.
 
I would have been insanely pissed off if I had eaten a pot brownie like that. My employer does random drug testing, and there aren't exactly a shitpile of jobs available to me right now.
 
I will say that these prosecutors are assholes for filing felony charges.

Misdemeanors would be perfectly adequate in this case.
 
Wow..jail time? Really?

This is like an old prank that you would see in a movie. Who am I kidding isn't this in lampoon taj's adventure where he gets the dean high?

It was a prank and it was wrong but don't destroy their lives that doesn't teach them anything. This thread sounds very american. It's all about the retribution and not about a real solution.
 
Exodus said:
Wow..jail time? Really?

This is like an old prank that you would see in a movie. Who am I kidding isn't this in lampoon taj's adventure where he gets the dean high?

It was a prank and it was wrong but don't destroy their lives that doesn't teach them anything. This thread sounds very american. It's all about the retribution and not about a real solution.
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lol. jking guise! No hard feelings.
 
Puddles said:
If you're going to do this, you have to bring the brownies early while no one is looking. If anyone asks who brought them, say you don't know.
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Or just not do it.

mac said:
I guess prison sentences for drug crimes is more popular on Gaf than I imagined.
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Yeah, because an adult doing something to their own body is the same as an adult drugging another person without consent.
 
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