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Summer 2011 Anime Thread of Idols, Penguins, and IKUHARA'S RETURN.

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Thanks for the Patlabor shots (and the BD does look a million times better than the DVD), but I was wondering about it more in terms of contemporary shows -- what's been airing in the last few seasons. Like, people were lamenting the lack of Sora no Woto BDs a bit earlier in the thread, but would the BD version of that be an upscale or was it originally broadcast in native HD?
I remember there was some discussion a long time ago in an earlier thread about what anime was actually "originally" created in an HD resolution or something like that, but I couldn't find it, so sorry if this seems repetitive.
 
That terrible music video was the ED for Ao no Exorcist?

Haha oh wow.

Did they just say "We need an ending song for this show" and someone replied that their was a boy band that just recorded a new single"we could use? Most OP and ED have some synchronicity usually with their shows.
 
firehawk12 said:
Is it the phones or the sniper rifle?!

Although, I must admit, I've always found this picture fabulous:
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Larger source needed.
 
Jexhius said:
What's the fascination with headphones?
"Look, they appreciate music just like I do! Kawaii~"

Maybe?

Articalys said:
Thanks for the Patlabor shots (and the BD does look a million times better than the DVD), but I was wondering about it more in terms of contemporary shows -- what's been airing in the last few seasons. Like, people were lamenting the lack of Sora no Woto BDs a bit earlier in the thread, but would the BD version of that be an upscale or was it originally broadcast in native HD?
Original was broadcast in HD. Such a gorgeous show, too.
 
firehawk12 said:
Is it the phones or the sniper rifle?!

Although, I must admit, I've always found this picture fabulous:
cGCQQl.jpg

Yusuke Kozaki does no wrong after all. I had this pic as my background for nearly forever.

Talking about wallpapers, I'm trying to find some decent Utena ones. Not happening, for some reason.
 
Marco 24

I've never seen a young boy have so much wine over the course of a single series. Outrageous.

This week we mix oppressively grim realism with a tiny sliver of 'hope'.
 
Mawaru Penguindrum - 01

Really? Really?
Pro:
-Not afraid to be dark
-Penguins are awesome, these penguins seem to continue the trend
-Background art is nice
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I thought they'd only hint at incest in that silly anime cliché way of dealing with most romance, going for it is much more commendable and interesting

Con:
-Dislike the character art, especially the eyes
-The costume for the
gods
or whatever you want to call them, is ugly
-Poor OP
-The fan-servicey bits were not only un-necessary but poorly executed

Will watch one or two more episodes.
 
firehawk12 said:
Need high res sniper sex hair? Here ya go:
If you want to not give that idiot hits (he stole it from the artist's pixiv page), you can get it here instead. Be warned, 3900x1480.

Articalys said:
I suppose that's the case for most modern shows then? So even the 1080p BD versions are native?
Well, usually stuff is broadcast in 720p. There are very few (if any) shows that are broadcast in 1080p. Almost all 1080p BD releases of modern shows are upscaled from 720p.
 
Zeouterlimits said:
Mawaru Penguindrum - 01

Con:
-Dislike the character art, especially the eyes
-The costume for the
gods
or whatever you want to call them, is ugly
-Poor OP
-The fan-servicey bits were not only un-necessary but poorly executed

Will watch one or two more episodes.

-I guess that is just your opinion
-How is it ugly? It is perfect
-WHAT?
-I don't even comprehend
 
Izayoi said:
Well, usually stuff is broadcast in 720p. There are very few (if any) shows that are broadcast in 1080p. Almost all 1080p BD releases of modern shows are upscaled from 720p.

It's usually broadcast in 1080i60. Remember that broadcast HD can be either 1080i60 or 720p60. For the purposes of redistribution as a raw on the Internet, the people who capture the broadcast will convert it to 720p24, the native framerate, before uploading it.
 
Natsume S3 (2)

I slammed this earlier episode without explaining why I thought that it was bad. As I dislike it when people post claims without any evidence, it would be hypocritical of me not to unpack my previous comment. So, what are the problems with this episode? Let's start from the smallest problem and work upwards.

- Music is used poorly. Far too often a scene will rely too heavily on the music to sell a sequence, or the music will be too loud, or it wont sync up to the visuals.

- The animation is really shoddy. Very little facial animation, lots of shots behind people and from the side so that they don't have to animate faces. Even when they are forced to show faces, nothing moves apart from the lip-flaps, and even that is done cheaply.

- The script is nearly as crappy as last week. Lots of discussion of stuff we already know combined with nothing else of note.

- The framing and cinematography in general is poor. Close up's on faces, random long shots, pointless 3/4 shorts and so forth. A lot of the images look very 'flat', like they have no depth. It's like everyone is performing on a stage.

- Tomino-level pacing. I'm not even kidding. Tomino-level pacing. It feels like every scene has already been running for about ten seconds before we arrive, and we always cut away from the scene at an unnatural time.

- No transitions, smooth or otherwise, between scenes. This ties directly into pacing but I feel it was so awful in this episode that it needs it's own bullet point. Do you remember the first episode of Yami 1 where we just kept cutting from scenes to scene without any apparent spatial or temporal linkage.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
It's usually broadcast in 1080i60. Remember that broadcast HD can be either 1080i60 or 720p60.
Well no, originally the show is broadcast via a transport stream at 1440x1080 and then downscaled. What I'm saying is that most shows today are produced originally at 720p. There are still a few where the source is SD, but in most cases studios have moved on to a 720p source. It's incredibly rare to find 1080p source material outside of anything other than films.
 
Izayoi said:
Well no, originally the show is broadcast via a transport stream at 1440p and then downscaled to 720p or 1080i. What I'm saying is that most shows today are produced originally at 720p. There are still quite a few where the source is SD, but in most cases studios have moved on to a 720p source. It's incredibly rare to find 1080p source material outside of anything other than films.
Broadcast HD as defined by the ATSC standard used in North America and Japan specifies 1080i60 or 720p60. But yeah, the native resolution is never anything close to true 1080p.

Ah, I see your stealth edit. Yes, for the purposes of saving bitrate, it may be delivered as a 1440x1080 transport stream to the broadcaster. But what goes over the air is 1920x1080i as defined by the ATSC spec.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
It's usually broadcast in 1080i60. Remember that broadcast HD can be either 1080i60 or 720p60. For the purposes of redistribution as a raw on the Internet, the people who capture the broadcast will convert it to 720p24, the native framerate, before uploading it.
Yep, this is right.

Any anime that was made digitally, but was made before HD was widely accepted will not see much of a benefit at all in HD because they will be upscaled, this includes stuff like Cowboy Bepop or Outlaw Star. Anime made before Digital became an industry wide standard, which is basically anime made with Cells, would benefit from HD since they are not tied to one specific resolution like Digital and Cells can contain more information than SD can show.

I'd like it if Japan adopted 5.1 channel output for their shows. 2.0 on Blu-ray kind of sucks.
 
Trojita said:
Yep, this is right.

Any anime that was made digitally, but was made before HD was widely accepted will not see much of a benefit at all in HD because they will be upscaled, this includes stuff like Cowboy Bepop or Outlaw Star. Anime made before Digital became an industry wide standard, which is basically anime made with Cells, would benefit from HD since they are not tied to one specific resolution like Digital and Cells can contain more information than SD can show.

I'd like it if Japan adopted 5.1 channel output for their shows. 2.0 on Blu-ray kind of sucks.
Cowboy Bebop was shot on 16mm film; although it does contain digital elements.
 
Izayoi said:
I'm not a huge fan of the sister's voice. I'm not really sure why.

Her voice totally doesn't match what I expected from the character but I quite like it. I can't quite put my finger on precisely why, though. Maybe after another episode or two I'll know better.
 
EmmanuelMunoz said:
Haibane Renmei Ep.4

The show makes you ask so many questions. I liked how at the beginning of the episode Kana pulls on Rakka's halo, they make it a gag kind of moment but it also shows that it is attached to her now. Rakka is getting more used to her new body but still has a lot of questions about the world around her.
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Don't. Just go with it and enjoy the ride.
 
jman2050 said:
So how long until the moe animu adaptation of the 2011 World Cup?
There's already a manga about the FC Barcelona so why not? It'd just be a logical extension of that notion.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
I have a ton as well. Is there an easy to reference list anywhere of which BR collections are worth the upgrade and which are lazy transfers?
Most of them that I have seen so far have been slight upgrades or lazy transfers.
However, the discs are far more durable and thats my main reason for getting them.
 
You should really only use Blu-ray.com reviews for screenshots. Their reviews are often filled with downright false information. See: their review of the recently released Samurai Champloo set. Review said it looked the same as the old set, which is completely wrong.
 
Yeah I'm pretty much addicted to the last 5 minutes of Penguin Drum. It's the first thing I think about in the morning and the last thing I watch at night before going to work.
 
Trojita said:
Yep, this is right.

Any anime that was made digitally, but was made before HD was widely accepted will not see much of a benefit at all in HD because they will be upscaled, this includes stuff like Cowboy Bepop or Outlaw Star. Anime made before Digital became an industry wide standard, which is basically anime made with Cells, would benefit from HD since they are not tied to one specific resolution like Digital and Cells can contain more information than SD can show.

I'd like it if Japan adopted 5.1 channel output for their shows. 2.0 on Blu-ray kind of sucks.
Thanks. One last question then I'm done. Around when did the bulk of the studios switch to the digital standard? Since you mention Outlaw Star I guess it was the late 90s?
 
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