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Summer 2011 Anime Thread of Idols, Penguins, and IKUHARA'S RETURN.
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Miri said:
I didn't do it on purpose! I spoiler-tagged a spoiler, how else am I going to talk about a show? I've been trying to be very careful about spoiler-tagging any spoilers in this thread, unlike a lot of other people! If you're going to start setting millions of rules about spoilers you might as well just shut Animu-GAF down entirely, there won't be any way of talking about anything to anybody!
Maybe the art detail is conning me into thinking it had a higher budget than it did. But oh well. If they start dividing it into two-episode arcs now, I'll only have to watch Utena walk up the stairs once every other episode. It could be worse, I suppose.
InfiniteNine
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See what Lafiel has done to our sweet oasis!?jman2050 said:
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EmmanuelMunoz said:
HURRY UP!
Geneijin said:
That one event didn't just damage them, it fucked them all up beyond belief. Every single one of them had been living with guilt, shame, and envy. They all had reached a breaking point and were finding outlets. The show wasn't all about the group dynamics but the individuals as well. Them finding out about the cross dressing made changed him as well as he had a support group if you will. As you can see throughout the series he starts to open as well after that series. And no their friendship did not get instantly restored after that event, it still took awhile and Jintan and Yukiatsu were pretty confrontational throughout the series.
The point that was driven throughout the series was that every single one of them needed to see a psychiatrist.
Also in the last episode, looks like they kinda explained why Yadomi never had Menma show off in front of the group. He wanted to be the only one to see her and communicate with her.
At the point they had caught him, he knew they were going back to the base. In the beginning of episode 4 he went back to the base. He didn't initially dress up to get caught as he wasn't aware of Poppo moving back but that night he must have gone there with the intent of getting caught on some level. You dress up as the person that your friends are looking for and then walk near by them.
Yes I meant Tsuruko. He wanted somebody to talk to about it, let it out, or just communicate with. He had lost Anaru after the break up and was starting to depend on Tsuruko. He never really confided in her though as she notes later.
The point that was driven throughout the series was that every single one of them needed to see a psychiatrist.
Also in the last episode, looks like they kinda explained why Yadomi never had Menma show off in front of the group. He wanted to be the only one to see her and communicate with her.
At the point they had caught him, he knew they were going back to the base. In the beginning of episode 4 he went back to the base. He didn't initially dress up to get caught as he wasn't aware of Poppo moving back but that night he must have gone there with the intent of getting caught on some level. You dress up as the person that your friends are looking for and then walk near by them.
Yes I meant Tsuruko. He wanted somebody to talk to about it, let it out, or just communicate with. He had lost Anaru after the break up and was starting to depend on Tsuruko. He never really confided in her though as she notes later.
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shintoki said:
Since this has kind of just become a general anime discussion, I agree.
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Utena 6:
HAHAHAHAHAHA...hell yeah! Just when the show was starting to piss me off, they give me a comedy episode with Nanami! She really is hilariously stupid and dramatic.
HAHAHAHAHAHA...hell yeah! Just when the show was starting to piss me off, they give me a comedy episode with Nanami! She really is hilariously stupid and dramatic.
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One of the cases where the series received a huge boost by being written by a woman.Averon said:
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Overman King Gainer 7 - So, in this episode, they have to right the part of their convoy that the British badguy tipped over last episode. First they try to pick it up, but that doesn't work. The others can't do it and Gainer can't get enough power in the air because he has to use too much power to fly, and can't on land either because the heat from the mech melts the permafrost and sinks the mech (and convoy vehicle too) down into the ground. 
So, they come up with the idea of
Also, a singer (Meeya or something?) joins the convoy, escaping from the train to the convoy because she wants to go on the Exodus too. She's been mentioned before I think, I don't entirely remember. Overall, okay episode.
If anything makes me want to not watch that series, the knowledge that it ends that way seals the deal...
So, they come up with the idea of
Hitching cables to the passing train of the ruler of the Siberian Railway. He's haughtly and keeps going, instead of stopping when warned that the cables attached to the train would probably help pull up the tipped thing, because he wants to keep the train running on time and because he thinks he can pull them out by driving faster (or tip the thing back over the other way afterwards). He does send the mechs he has after them, but of course the goodguys win, and succeed at righting the vehicle too. Gainer has a lot more luck against the British guy's sidekick than he did last episode against the man himself... the guy has excuses for his boss, but yeah, we know it's because you're just the sidekick.
Also, a singer (Meeya or something?) joins the convoy, escaping from the train to the convoy because she wants to go on the Exodus too. She's been mentioned before I think, I don't entirely remember. Overall, okay episode.
I disagree, as I said in my review that "him worrying about her being discovered" thing was just too stupid, I liked the first part of the episode but definitely not that.Instro said:
Without at least putting them in spoiler tags and maybe also saying what's in the spoilers, you mean, I imagine. But yeah, it does make sense.
No they don't!Izayoi said:
If anything makes me want to not watch that series, the knowledge that it ends that way seals the deal...
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Dresden said:
Still can't figure out how I'm not in the top tier on that list, or at least 2nd tier.
spindashing
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I hope to one day appear on a list.
It is what I've always dreamed of as an ido--
It is what I've always dreamed of as an ido--
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spindashing said:
Jarmel said:
You guys will be on 3rd revision next season.
InfiniteNine
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No one is telling the other that their taste is bad and that they are destroying anime while spewing staff names so no. Although some monocles are above some of that.Andrew J. said:
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There is a new power rising in the world! It's victory is at hand! Who now can stand against Moe and Mecha, and the Union of the Two Mustaches?
SOON WE WILL DESTROY ALL THE MONOCLES IN AN OVERWHELMING TIDE OF BLOOD AND VEANGEANCE!! AND THEN WE WILL WATCH MOE!! MOE MOE~
You keep posting in the IDORUM@STER thread and your ranking will continue to drop! :3
SOON WE WILL DESTROY ALL THE MONOCLES IN AN OVERWHELMING TIDE OF BLOOD AND VEANGEANCE!! AND THEN WE WILL WATCH MOE!! MOE MOE~
jman2050 said:
You keep posting in the IDORUM@STER thread and your ranking will continue to drop! :3
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EmmanuelMunoz said:
You too.
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I think there's an easy way to settle this. Jarmel and Geneijin should put on some dresses and sing Secret Base together.
InfiniteNine
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I see you're hitting new blood tonight!cosmicblizzard said:
Haibane Series
I really enjoyed it though I would like to have seen more of Rakkas journey and the mythology of the show. But even with that said the show ends perfectly.
My only complaint would have to be the characters waning curiosity for the outside world;
The show started off a little slow, but it felt intentionally this way to set up the characters and setting appropriately. It was a really good watch and some of Abe's best work
I really enjoyed it though I would like to have seen more of Rakkas journey and the mythology of the show. But even with that said the show ends perfectly.
I loved how Reki turns into a pivotal point in the show near the end and, just as they said, becomes the stepping stone for the rest of the Haibane. They still manage to keep Rakka interesting even though Reki feels like a deeper character. You end the show with a feeling of knowing what is going to happen to the other characters.
they begin with a large focus on Rakka's curiosity and mention others who have been punished for it, but she seems to accept it in the end. The more I think about it the more I understand why she is ok with it, she is with people she cares about and now feels comfortable in her environment, but I wanted her to delve deeper.
Ano Hana Spoilers
Yukatisu doesn't open up after being caught. All he did was start a stupid love triangle.
He didn't care about Anaru at all. He didn't "lose" Anaru. In Episode 10, specifically, they spelled it out for us that Yukiatsu was seeking solace in the fact he wasn't that pathetic because Anaru was just as pathetic. Just as how they openly explained why Anaru dresses as she does.
And that's the main problem with the show. Its reliance on using that one flashback - that one tragic event - as many times as it did for justification on why they're all coping with their personal issues the way they are. The show needed something more substantial than that if they wanted to impress the believability of those characters, yet we only know they behaved like they did as a result of that specific event. It's no different than reading a news story about some other tragic event and just as insignificant. Sure, it's still tragic, but like Ano Hana we simply know they're suffering from this unfortunate death.Jarmel said:
Of course the show wasn't only about group dynamics, but Yukiatsu didn't slowly change at all. He was the same character as he was since the beginning of the story. In Episode 5, immediately after he was revealed as a crossdresser and his plight, the show tries to establish a love triangle between Yukiatsu, Tsuruko, and Anaru, which is poorly done and utterly senseless. For the sake of melodrama however? Sure.
Yukatisu doesn't open up after being caught. All he did was start a stupid love triangle.
Yes, it did. The plot magically fixed their ties to one another. Just as how Poppo reunited Jintan and Anaru together to restore the Super Peace Busters, the crossdressing shenanigans reunited everyone together as friends again. Sure, they still have differences as you stated, but Episode 5 basically patched up their friendship when they could talk to one another again, not as distant, former friends.
But then we wouldn't have this story. We wouldn't understand that not everyone seeks help and learns to tolerant their current predicament in their own ways, etc.
But you said Yukiatsu wanted to get "subconsciously caught." I'm well aware of his intentions for brandishing himself like he did. I just disagree he wanted to be caught and your reasoning for him to do so. You're forgetting Tsuruko was the one who lend to his capture. Yukiatsu was perfectly fine crossdressing for life if it wasn't for Tsuruko's intervention. He wanted to crossdress and have everyone see "Menma" with the purpose of not being caught. He was extremely jealous of Jintan and Poppo for seeing Menma, yet he couldn't, only his imagination, or rather, image of Menma in his mind. He expressively wanted to egg all of them all in Episode 4 when he said "I'll show you Menma" or something similar. He wanted to taunt them. He was not looking to get caught at all.
No, he didn't. I think you were misunderstanding his intentions. It was nothing more than a cover for him to purchase woman's clothing without looking suspicious. And you still haven't explained to me why he would want to confide in Tsuruko when there aren't any specific instances in the show on when Yukiatsu has sought that kind of help from Tsuruko.
He didn't care about Anaru at all. He didn't "lose" Anaru. In Episode 10, specifically, they spelled it out for us that Yukiatsu was seeking solace in the fact he wasn't that pathetic because Anaru was just as pathetic. Just as how they openly explained why Anaru dresses as she does.
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Utena 7:
Hey, the first foreshadowing of what's to come later
I'm still trying to figure out why everyone says Utena is wearing a boy's uniform. Is it just because of the jacket? Last I checked, a boy's uniform doesn't include hot pants! Utena is pretty hot in her uniform though. The pink hair is awesome too. Kudos to her character designer.
I don't know why I'm starting to really enjoy this show. The first 3 episodes were really shaky, then Miki's arc in episodes 4-5 and Nanami's comedy episode in 6 were great, then this episode was really good too.
I think I'd better quit for the night though, I have a lot of dishes to wash!
Hey, the first foreshadowing of what's to come later
during the part where Anthy is sitting alone in the room talking to herself about making rabbits dance.
I'm still trying to figure out why everyone says Utena is wearing a boy's uniform. Is it just because of the jacket? Last I checked, a boy's uniform doesn't include hot pants! Utena is pretty hot in her uniform though. The pink hair is awesome too. Kudos to her character designer.
I don't know why I'm starting to really enjoy this show. The first 3 episodes were really shaky, then Miki's arc in episodes 4-5 and Nanami's comedy episode in 6 were great, then this episode was really good too.
I think I'd better quit for the night though, I have a lot of dishes to wash!
A Black Falcon said:
While it's overused (is this whole "oh nos discovery!" plot once per season or something?) and typically more facepalm than hilarious, it is a fun setup for a brain-off harem romantic comedy series. I certainly do not expect anything really to come out of Mayo Chiki besides a curiosity to bleeding sheep and an utterly adorable female lead but it's an entertaining watch.
But I'm just easily amused, I suppose. Hell, I'd probably watch it just for more of Kanade's strange imaginations to be honest.
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The biggest issue with AnoHana for me was always how everyone but Poppo seemed almost exclusively motivated by their unexplained crushes on one another. They just feel the way they do and it's left at that. Anaru in particular suffers because there's really nothing to her character other than that she's the girl who has an unrequited crush on Jinta.
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It has that budget because it's Sunrise, and Sunrise always has plenty of budget.Izayoi said:
I don't know, being punished by teh list creators for being in ponygaf maybe? Maybe not, I don't know. I only sort of understand how people end up where they do on that list.DrForester said:
Was there much to spoil? But yes, I guess it isn't nice to post spoiler pictures before most people have even been able to watch the episode.ChuckNoLuck said:
Yeah, it really does... the ending is perfect for the series.EmmanuelMunoz said:
Hmm, that is a decent point. I agree though, the show does a good job of explaining why she doesn't really care anymore -- she has a place, and friends, and interesting things to do; she isn't as worried anymore about what's outside. Also, he didn't want to make it clear how the world of Haibane Renmei works, what's really outside the wall, why they are really there, or any of that; instead, it's supposed to be mysterious, something for each viewer to decide on the reality of for themselves. ABe has said that he won't give a full explanation for how the Haibane Renmei world works because the series is better with it being mysterious. And I think I agree, it is a little frustrating to not know, but it works so well as it is that I don't mind much. Also, the fans have come up with some good guesses for what the truth of the situation is, so there are some things to go on as far as trying to understand the world of the series is concerned.
Yeah. I agree about the pacing, it starts out slow but builds well towards the tense, dramatic, and dark events later in the show. It's paced very well, and both the slower, more episodic and the tense drama sides fit the world perfectly. It's really an amazing, beautiful series, and it really shows off how great ABe is... it's so sad that it's really the only anime he's pretty much entirely responsible for, it shows how great he is and I wish we could get more from him. But now we don't seem to be able to get something he's working on actually release, namely Despera, much less another series entirely his own like Haibane Renmei. It's really sad.
(I really want Despera! Please!)Unknown Soldier
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What the shit? Following links on Wikipedia directs me to this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoko_Kawakami
The woman who voiced Utena died last month of cancer?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoko_Kawakami
The woman who voiced Utena died last month of cancer?!
Ok. I just finished Ano Hana, time to go back and read all the spoilers people have been posting
The show makes me want to see Despera! NOW. I am going to look into the mythos behind the show a bit more, but like you said the fact that that absence of information exists means I have already made up a whole lot of possibilities in my head.
A Black Falcon said:Hmm, that is a decent point. I agree though, the show does a good job of explaining why she doesn't really care anymore -- she has a place, and friends, and interesting things to do; she isn't as worried anymore about what's outside. Also, he didn't want to make it clear how the world of Haibane Renmei works, what's really outside the wall, why they are really there, or any of that; instead, it's supposed to be mysterious, something for each viewer to decide on the reality of for themselves. ABe has said that he won't give a full explanation for how the Haibane Renmei world works because the series is better with it being mysterious. And I think I agree, it is a little frustrating to not know, but it works so well as it is that I don't mind much. Also, the fans have come up with some good guesses for what the truth of the situation is, so there are some things to go on as far as trying to understand the world of the series is concerned.
Yeah. I agree about the pacing, it starts out slow but builds well towards the tense, dramatic, and dark events later in the show. It's paced very well, and both the slower, more episodic and the tense drama sides fit the world perfectly. It's really an amazing, beautiful series, and it really shows off how great ABe is... it's so sad that it's really the only anime he's pretty much entirely responsible for, it shows how great he is and I wish we could get more from him. But now we don't seem to be able to get something he's working on actually release, namely Despera, much less another series entirely his own like Haibane Renmei. It's really sad.
The show makes me want to see Despera! NOW. I am going to look into the mythos behind the show a bit more, but like you said the fact that that absence of information exists means I have already made up a whole lot of possibilities in my head.
Uta no Prince-sama 1-2
Watched the first 2 episodes and sort of liked them. The show is kinda empty but pretty to look at. I really like the art for the guys and the girls. Haruka's cloudy eyes are sort of cute and hot at the same time.
Oh, and Norio Wakamoto is fantastic.
R-15 1
Could have been funny, but felt annoying more than anything, save for a couple of scenes (like the girl rummaging between her tits... those tits must have a lot of space).
Usagi Drop 2
This keeps being great. I'm still amazed they were able to keep that look and animate it just right. Even the simplistic style you get when Rin makes her faces is so good and looks perfectly fitting.
Humour and sweetness and a little bit of light melancholy, all in one package and well mixed. Still my best show of the season.
Watched the first 2 episodes and sort of liked them. The show is kinda empty but pretty to look at. I really like the art for the guys and the girls. Haruka's cloudy eyes are sort of cute and hot at the same time.
Oh, and Norio Wakamoto is fantastic.
R-15 1
Could have been funny, but felt annoying more than anything, save for a couple of scenes (like the girl rummaging between her tits... those tits must have a lot of space).
Usagi Drop 2
This keeps being great. I'm still amazed they were able to keep that look and animate it just right. Even the simplistic style you get when Rin makes her faces is so good and looks perfectly fitting.
Humour and sweetness and a little bit of light melancholy, all in one package and well mixed. Still my best show of the season.
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