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[Ezalc]

Anime blogs are a waste of time, read something useful like fantasy football columns and gambling lines.

Or Playboy articles.

 

[Dresden]

Playboy articles are actually pretty quality. The 'porn' in them is so softcore shit in Maxim is raunchier.

 

[Jex]

I might understand what the hell this guy is ranting about. Granted, I've never read an anime blog .

Let me stop you right there.

Also, it's wholly comprehensible, so I'm not sure what your issue is.

I've never found it useful to read some random person's personal stream of consciousness as a rule.

Oh I get it, you are parodying your own review style! Now I get it.

The average anything is generally not really worth much

I don't even mean average, really, more like 95%. That would be more accurate.

It pretty much applies to all places where anime is written about and discussed, including ANN and this very forum.

 

[firehawk12]

Fuudo moe is best moe.

He's just so kawaiiiiiii. Fuudo blush!

Anime blogs are a waste of time, read something useful like fantasy football columns and gambling lines.

I think we really should activate the Moeblobblog and start rating anime on the Mugi scale.

 

[Dresden]

I think we really should activate the Moeblobblog and start rating anime on the Mugi scale.

This post is 8/10 Mugibrows.

 

[Jintor]

Assuming Sturgeon's law applies to everything, the best way to increase the amount of quality available for anything is to increase ease of production, i.e. to raise the sheer amount of whatever produced. Thus the best way for quality anime blogging to proliferate is to allow all anime blogging to proliferate, good or bad.

 

[survivor]

The only anime blogs I follow are the ones with the pretty pictures. The ones that try to analyze or write essays about anime just get a laugh from me

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Oh I get it, you are parodying your own review style! Now I get it.

You're welcome to take on the role of my editor. Do it for free. Otherwise too bad.

Furthermore, I'm more than happy to read my own stream of consciousness. It's mine, after all. So I don't know what you're complaining about here.

 

[Risette]

Colony Drop is like if icycalm decided to write about anime.

Take that as you will!

 

[Jintor]

Why would you turn up your nose at essays or analysis about anime though? If it's not your thing, it's not your thing, but to actively mock it seems a trifle mean-spirited.

I mean some of the more involved posters here more or less analyse the fuck out of everything they watch here. It's great.

 

[Jex]

I think we really should activate the Moeblobblog and start rating anime on the Mugi scale.

Haven't we already had several pages of that in the Idolmaster thread?

Why would you turn up your nose at essays or analysis about anime though? If it's not your thing, it's not your thing, but to actively mock it seems a trifle mean-spirited.

I mean some of the more involved posters here more or less analyse the fuck out of everything they watch here. It's great.

The internet is mean spirited in general, hence the usage of "self-righteous lunatic!"

 

[survivor]

Why would you turn up your nose at essays or analysis about anime though? If it's not your thing, it's not your thing, but to actively mock it seems a trifle mean-spirited.

I mean some of the more involved posters here more or less analyse the fuck out of everything they watch here. It's great.

I get my essays from forums since most of the posts are to the point and I can get read viewpoints of multiple people at a time. Much faster and convenient for me than to read essays worth of analyzes from one person.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Assuming Sturgeon's law applies to everything, the best way to increase the amount of quality available for anything is to increase ease of production, i.e. to raise the sheer amount of whatever produced. Thus the best way for quality anime blogging to proliferate is to allow all anime blogging to proliferate, good or bad.

Well, if that means that pseudo-intellectual mendacious elitist dreck where people act all self-righteously douchey about their chosen form of mass media like Colony Drop has to exist, then I say no deal. I'm going to continue to ignore the existence of anime blogs. I don't need other people telling what I should and should not like. Those people can go fuck themselves.

 

[Jex]

Here's a perfect reason why Colony Drop should exist, so that fine reviewers like this one can warn people about the Gundam OO movie. Once you find reviewers that can be trusted its easier to then avoid bad works in general.: http://www.colonydrop.com/index.php/2010/10/14/gundam-00-the-movie?blog=1

 

[duckroll]

Colony Drop is like if icycalm decided to write about anime.

Take that as you will!

Nah, Icycalm would put a forum on the site, and then ban everyone who disagreed with him, while deleting their posts, and then PM them why they're completely wrong without letting them defend themselves.

 

[Jintor]

If there are two words that really get up my grill, they are "pseudo-intellectual" and "pretentious".

"Elitist" is a close third.

 

[Nonoriri]

Telling the truth about anime blogging and writing is a work that can only be performed by those steeped in cynicism: A Confederacy of Dipshits: Dissecting an Infestation

That's still the only good Colony Drop post.

 

[Jintor]

I should probably read the damn thing first though, since I'm speaking more in generalities.

 

[flawfuls]

Colony Drop is cool because it's one of the few places on the internet I have seen appreciation for the glorious masterpiece that is Japan Tengu Party Illustrated.

 

[firehawk12]

Haven't we already had several pages of that in the Idolmaster thread?

Never enough! Besides, I think we can out snark CD!

This post is 8/10 Mugibrows.

This rating is four Azunyans out of ten Yuis.

I am half serious though. Moeblobsblog is such a great name. :lol

 

[Ezalc]

If there are two words that really get up my grill, they are "pseudo-intellectual" and "pretentious".

"Elitist" is a close third.

You are a pretentious elitist whose attempts at pseudo-intellectual conversation will only end in failure. Also your pony is on fire.

Anyways, in actual anime topic stuff I stopped watching No. 6 and I guess Blue Exorcist as well. I think I might regret asking this but how is Nichijou?

 

[dimb]

Anyways, in actual anime topic stuff I stopped watching No. 6 and I guess Blue Exorcist as well. I think I might regret asking this but how is Nichijou?

It got better, but if you were completely turned off by the first 12 episodes you probably shouldn't bother.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I am half serious though. Moeblobsblog is such a great name. :lol

Why haven't you started it yet?

 

[Nonoriri]

Colony Drop is cool because it's one of the few places on the internet I have seen appreciation for the glorious masterpiece that is Japan Tengu Party Illustrated.

Plus they dish out a few well deserved jabs at 20th Century Boys on the way.

 

[shintoki]

We need to ask the hard hitting questions for quality discussion to appear. Like who has the best Penguin Drum avatar.

 

[Dresden]

We need to ask the hard hitting questions for quality discussion to appear. Like who has the best Penguin Drum avatar.

I'm fond of Haly's penguintar.

 

[Ezalc]

We need to ask the hard hitting questions for quality discussion to appear. Like who has the best Penguin Drum avatar.

Clearly I do. It's such a perfect pingudramu avatar that the three penguins hidden in it are invisible to all but the keenest flightless birds.

 

[jman2050]

My penguin has purple in it, therefore it is superior.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Why would you have thought that she'd get better handling than the others? In this kind of show that would defy all logic! Still though, you weren't entirely wrong, at least she was better than anyone else in the show.

Wrong is wrong and I was wrong.

Also though, some of what you say here is kind of confusing... "If she'd been a little more cookie cutter I wouldn't have gone that far and assumed she was going to be what she ended up but she wasn't great from the start either or anything.", the second half of this sentence fades in comprehensibility... I think I know what you mean, but I'm not certain. You said that she was different, but also that she wasn't great from the start? Then why were you thinking that she might be better? I mean, apart form her being so much cooler than anyone else in the show.

Doesn't everything I say fade in comprehensibility after a point? It's how my brain works, I go off into too many tangents and have trouble putting things into words in the correct order.

Anyways, like I said elsewhere, you don't necessarily need to be a great, well written character to be a good character and at the start Charles was a good character however all of her circumstances were poor and as such she couldn't really be a great character. Shit like how her father came up with this plan after having heard of Ichika however in just that short time aside from her hair Charles might as well have been Japanese for the most part, excusing stupid things they throw in like her and chop sticks or some shit. The order was all wrong, she was too well versed in everything Japanese to have just merely been quickly dispatched for some intelligence mission. Further, the concept of the intelligence mission from the start was absurd as demonstrated by all the other company's girls being there and doing seemingly just that just out in the open, why the need for secrecy, not to mention that Charles was introduced as the heir of the company and not as some poor outsider with no company relation anyways so, um, again, why the ruse? And lastly, just what the fuck would they get from Ichika, one can see the type of battle and machine intelligence one could glean from being in the school but with Ichika, what was Charles to do, take DNA samples from him in his sleep and send it off to France? The whole ploy was just fucking silly, excluding the already inherent in trying to make a scenario where a girl could live with a man for a school term without him being any the wiser for it but I guess the genre calls for such absurdity and suspension of disbelief.

Certainly true. But that doesn't mean that their portrayals are equally bad.

Yes it does.

That doesn't make any sense, the whole point is that women are portrayed worse in anime than they are in reality. Higher societal standards? What?

Yes, higher standards hence further to fall thus setting the perception that they are portrayed worse. The standards for being a good man are lower than the standards for being a good woman in society so a guy's only got to meet a few points while a girl has to meet more.

Some of this is true... but, you seriously don't see the extremes that anime regularly go to in these stereotypes as very, very sexist? Really? If so, you're quite wrong. Of course even though it's sexist it is true that there are stricter standards for women in society than there are for men, so having some of that isn't entirely wrong. But anime often goes way, way past that.

Of course shit is sexist, there isn't a work on the planet that is not! You can't get rid of sexism until you get rid of one of the sexes and even then there'd still be that damn idea of what a person must be that some dislike and feel is threatening.

Some of the worst, I would say, (as I probably have before) is the characterizations of the female characters themselves... the ways that anime, particularly anime for men, makes its female characters act is just so horrible... your average weak guy in those animes is nowhere remotely as bad, he just isn't. (I know the reasons for this objectification, but knowing the reasons doesn't condone them.)

I disagree but maybe because I'm a guy and am of course inherently biased, but anyways, many of these girls in these shit shows are more functional pieces of work with more positive traits than the men, ask me to choose who I'd be from a shitty harem show and you might be surprised that if I were forced to choose I'd many times choose to be one of the girls over the guy, that's how fucking lame the men are. Not that the women are great either but shit at least I could probably cook for myself, maybe clean, perhaps be good at school and the only tradeoff is I have to lust after a loser's dick? Sign me up, that loser won't make it far in society anyways before he takes his own life on account of being a loser freeing me up to focus my thirst for cock elsewhere.

What higher social standing? Women don't have a higher social standing...

My bad, I mean standards again.

Greater equality in treatment and opportunity is what I hope for, yes.

You both have it now and will never have it.

Absolutely not, the female characters are far, far worse. I mean honestly, how negative really are those weak-guy stereotypes you hate so much, particularly compared to the insane mix of craziness that females get portrayed as in anime so often? I know I said it before, but if you see that as equal I really think it's only because you have a bias towards looking at the male side first. Understandable, but that doesn't mean they're actually equal. (Note, I'm not saying that male characters in anime are fine, of course they have issues too... they just aren't quite as bad.)

I just don't see how you can rank losers.

This is a clever argument, but it's also absurd when you think about it. I mean, of course you're right that women and men should be treated more equally when it comes to sexuality. Some of the reasons societies don't do this make sense (only women can get pregnant after all), but not to the degree of the inequality, and anime makes things more extreme from there. So yeah, I would say 'of course, and indeed, part of the problem definitely is that anime females aren't treated the same as males sexually...' Also of course though, that's because they aren't in Japanese society.

I don't know dick about Japanese society but if the men in these shows are closer to being men in Japanese society than the women are closer to being women than I need a beer, that's just hilariously sad.

So sure, the mere act of a girl liking a guy like that isn't an issue, certainly, I agree with that. The problem is it doesn't stop there, far too often. While there certainly are shows which are exceptions (not in terms of being sexist or not, they almost all are, but in the worse of the stereotypes), in the okatu-centric anime market of today, the male main characters are often either extremely generic or outright losers. The girl or girls are often supposedly smarter, higher accomplished, etc. So why do they like this random guy? Well, as a standin for the dreams of the audience of course. In terms of plot though they usually come up with some lame excuse. I'm not saying all of this stuff should go away -- there is a degree of equality after all, there are some shows with a female main character surrounded by guys -- but even though it's easy to understand the whys of why things are as they are, it's still quite messed up.

It's not messed up at all. it's crap yes but only because the other side isn't buying to get represented.

So yeah, basically, sure, you're right about what you say there, but you leave out the more important points of who the character types are, what the genres are, etc. And also, you leave out some of the legacy of sexism -- after all, what does a guy-surrounded-by-girls harem show do but propagate negative stereotypes about sexuality and gender?

If we are aiming for true liberation is there even such a thing as a negative stereotype about gender or sexuality? In a truly equal society they must all be equally valid which also means that there will always be people that have issue with some of them which means this is a struggle that will last to man's last breath.

However, if anime females did act more like you say, more okay with sexuality, it might be a bit less bad, but few do... no, they're much more likely to be blushing maidens who need to be taught the ways by the guy (in the story, for hentai, or in the viewers' imagination, for normal tv anime). Oh, and on that note, the amount of sex in hentai that is rape is incredibly disturbing and has got to mean something negative somehow.

Lol, of course rape is a negative, not sure why you'd need to play it safe by adding "somehow."

You just need to take the cultural context, historical and institutional and popular sexism, and other such things into account, really.

No, I really don't. A work of fiction's sexism exists outside the society's, while it may indeed be formed from it or a statement against it it is it's own beast entirely.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

My penguin has purple in it, therefore it is superior.

Your pingiun is suffocating on a face full of plums.

 

[iavi]

I'm fully convinced that ABF and Mac are the same person at this point. Either that, or they are soul mates and should invite me to the wedding.

 

[Crash Station]

Ga-rei Zero 9

Jeez, seeing Yomi in that state was heartbreaking. Still probably would be much better than the alternative. Sucks for Kagura. Really liked the thing they had going there

 

[firehawk12]

I'm fully convinced that Abf and mac are the same person at this point. Either that, or they are soul mates and should invite me to the wedding.

Me too!

Why haven't you started it yet?

Dresden owns it!

 

[Haly]

I'm fond of Haly's penguintar.

Your new one is pretty neat too.

 

[Instro]

I'm fully convinced that ABF and Mac are the same person at this point. Either that, or they are soul mates and should invite me to the wedding.

That's a pretty convincing theory.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Me too!

Hey just because you've never personally seen us both in the same room at once doesn't mean shit, it's clear that we're different people as I have demonstratively better taste.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Much like people with little sisters don't find the little sister trope hot I think cat owners don't find the -nyan trope hot so I'm down for not using Azunyan for anything.

 

[Articalys]

Kamisama no Memo-cho 4

Boring filler-type episode. Bring on the next real case already.
Still the best opening and ending songs though.

 

[jman2050]

Much like people with little sisters don't find the little sister trope hot I think cat owners don't find the -nyan trope hot so I'm down for not using Azunyan for anything.

That's cause cats are evil evil creatures and only cat owners or people who know cat owners recognize them as such.

 

[Nonoriri]

That's cause cats are evil evil creatures and only cat owners or people who know cat owners recognize them as such.

My cats are moeblobs though.

 

[firehawk12]

Hey just because you've never personally seen us both in the same room at once doesn't mean shit, it's clear that we're different people as I have demonstratively better taste.

I meant that I want to be invited to the bro-wedding!

I don't know. I'd prefer the ratings be somehow related to Ritsu's forehead.

Remember, azunyan is worst nyan.

Four Ritsu foreheads out of Five!

 

[mAcOdIn]

That's cause cats are evil evil creatures and only cat owners or people who know cat owners recognize them as such.

That's perhaps true, I still love my little vindictive bastards though.

I meant that I want to be invited to the bro-wedding!

Not legal in Texas!

 

[A Black Falcon]

R-15 4 - In between all of the glaring white bars and censorship, I think there was an episode here somewhere...

Seriously though, this is the most censored episode of this show so far, and it really did hurt the comprehensibility of the episode. This episode, in short, is about panties. Well, it's about panties and (tsundere) photographer girl, to be precise. I had some trouble understanding this episode, but I don't want to rewatch or something, I think I'll just wait for the uncensored release in some months. Too many white bars!

So yeah, in this episode, our hero finds a photo of panties (on a girl, too, seen from behind) in his locker, and wants to figure out who the photo is of. Then, he seemingly gains the power to use magic wind to expose girls' panties at his command. He thinks this is pretty awesome, until he realizes that it's making all of the girls in school scared of him, at which point he kind of wants it to go away...

After that, the plot takes a twist, and then we learn the real plot of this episode, which is

Spoiler

about photographer girl's issues, pretty much. And she does have some, the ending part was a bit odd, though I can't say I entirely understood it... so she keeps chasing him around, trying to get him into suggestive situations, and takes photos of the events; then forces him to go into a girls' bathroom and then locker room in a quest to take a dirty picture of him because she wants one in her "our school is great, you should come here" poster she's tasked to make (and yes, he does comment on how odd wanting a photo like that on such a poster is); then we learn that she thinks she's ugly or something, and kind of cracks when she sees her own reflection looking back at her... it was weird, I don't know. Um, somehow that (or something he did?) helped fix her block and after that she finally finished the poster.

On a related note I'm still surprised that our MC hasn't figured out photographer girl is almost certainly tsundere for him. He's a porn novel author yes, shouldn't be be able to identify such things? And it's not like it isn't fairly obvious seeming, for the viewer at least.

Anyway, overall, this episode was very Japan. So many pantyshots...

I'm fully convinced that ABF and Mac are the same person at this point. Either that, or they are soul mates and should invite me to the wedding.

... Given how we're so different on so many issues, how would that make any sense?

Much like people with little sisters don't find the little sister trope hot I think cat owners don't find the -nyan trope hot so I'm down for not using Azunyan for anything.

I think that applies more for little sisters than cats. I mean, why would being a cat owner make you not like catgirls and such? Cats are cute and awesome. Real cats I mean. Just because they scratch you sometimes, etc. doesn't mean that they aren't cute blobs anyway, they make up for their misdeeds with cuteness. (It's amazing how easy it is to forgive cats for things like scratching you, peeing on the carpet repeatedly, etc...)

As for catgirl tropes I'm not sure, I'm not the biggest fan of that stuff but there's worse.

 

[mAcOdIn]

I think that applies more for little sisters than cats. I mean, why would being a cat owner make you not like catgirls and such? Cats are cute and awesome. Real cats I mean. Just because they scratch you sometimes, etc. doesn't mean that they aren't cute blobs anyway, they make up for their misdeeds with cuteness. (It's amazing how easy it is to forgive cats for things like scratching you, peeing on the carpet repeatedly, etc...)

As for catgirl tropes I'm not sure, I'm not the biggest fan of that stuff but there's worse.

Because when you actually have cats you realize they piss and shit, their ass sometimes stinks and they stick it in your face, they attack your feet as you walk around, chew through your cords, always take the high ground and look down on you, never earn their keep, oh yeah, and they sometimes scratch you.

The illusion has been shattered.

 

[A Black Falcon]

Because when you actually have cats you realize they piss and shit, their ass sometimes stinks and they stick it in your face, they attack your feet as you walk around, chew through your cords, always take the high ground and look down on you, never earn their keep, oh yeah, and they sometimes scratch you.

The illusion has been shattered.

Eh, but they're cute! They're cute and purr and like being petted and being around their people (or person)...

Also, our cats at least never have bitten through cords. I know some pets do that kind of thing, but not ours. However, my cat does get pretty unhappy when her person is gone for a while (though she only likes one person at a time, the one who feeds her; other humans are irrelevant), and is obsessive about her food so you must carefully measure everything or she'd immediately balloon in size and eat every particle of catfood in sight...

As for earning their keep, well, cats do catch small critters once in a while. My cat caught a mouse last year, for instance, outside. Of course, she then brought it in, let it go in the living room, and then "played" with it for a while before finally killing it, but she did catch it...

 

[iavi]

... Given how we're so different on so many issues, how would that make any sense?

It wouldn't. It was more of a play on your guys' penchant for writing each other essays than anything.

 

[jman2050]

Sorry, but cats are and always were evil. Dogs are superior clearly.

Now if only Japan could perfect the dog girl to a science the same way they have the cat girl. Stuff like Dog Days is not at all encouraging in this direction.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Much like people with little sisters don't find the little sister trope hot I think cat owners don't find the -nyan trope hot so I'm down for not using Azunyan for anything.

If I ever got a cat I would name it Azusa.

Cats > Dogs

 

[Regulus Tera]

Checking Colony Drop led me to Shit Otaku Say. God damn.

 

[A Black Falcon]

Sorry, but cats are and always were evil. Dogs are superior clearly.

Now if only Japan could perfect the dog girl to a science the same way they have the cat girl. Stuff like Dog Days is not at all encouraging in this direction.

You got that entirely backwards, dogs are the evil ones.

They also vomit on your carpets regularly.

That's true, they do do that every once in a while. It's annoying, but not as bad as the peeing probably... less smelly too.

Kittens, though, kittens are totally moe. Too bad they only truly last for a few months before they become cats.

Probably true, yeah. But eh, at least adult cats can be cute too, when they want to be.