Man, I remember when I watched Death Note back in the Summer of 2007. Now THAT's what I would call anime. I really was on the edge of my seat, not only that, but I was actually rooting for the bad guy, the first time an anime made me do that, and the animation was top-notch too, IIRC it was Madhouse, definitely worth a watch for any anime fan, and I still cant believe it's Shonen.
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Branduil said:
What are you, new to the Internet or something? Everyone knows on the Internet you either love something so much you have a small shrine for it at home, or you hate it with the poisson of a thousand burning suns and think it is worse than Hitler! There is no gray area!
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The Mystic Archives of Dantalian 2-3
This show continues to be surprisingly classy and engaging. It's got a great atmosphere, mainly due to the beautiful backgrounds and moody music. The first two episodes in particular were very lonely and desolate - these huge mansions in which only one or two people reside. The introduction of Camilla in the third episode provides a useful additional foil to Dalian, whose brattiness would be intolerable if it weren't for the maturity of the people around her. Although she does have consistently ridiculous insults going for her.
Are you serious? Death Note is alright, has some interesting and entertaining mind games, but it's ultimately a soulless and immature show with unlikable characters and an excessively cynical mindset. It is nowhere near the upper echelon of anime.
I will make a valiant effort to suppress the rage this statement creates within me.
This show continues to be surprisingly classy and engaging. It's got a great atmosphere, mainly due to the beautiful backgrounds and moody music. The first two episodes in particular were very lonely and desolate - these huge mansions in which only one or two people reside. The introduction of Camilla in the third episode provides a useful additional foil to Dalian, whose brattiness would be intolerable if it weren't for the maturity of the people around her. Although she does have consistently ridiculous insults going for her.
Sennorin said:
Are you serious? Death Note is alright, has some interesting and entertaining mind games, but it's ultimately a soulless and immature show with unlikable characters and an excessively cynical mindset. It is nowhere near the upper echelon of anime.
Sennorin said:
I will make a valiant effort to suppress the rage this statement creates within me.
hosannainexcelsis said:
You´re really trying to upset me, eh? Calling DN "soulless" and "immature" and its characters "unlikable"... how far can it be from the truth? I still remember how I rewatched the bus-episode (ep4, I think) 9 times in a row, that´s how good DN is. I can accept if you prefer laid back shows like Cowboy Bebop or Haibane Renmei, but that doesn´t mean that DN isn´t great. Stop this elitist-thinking, seriously.
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Sennorin said:
I agree with you, but you aren't going to get animegaf to stop with the elitism no matter how much you try. It's always like this. Just ignore the cynicism and hope someone else shares your opinion so there's something to discuss.
Y'know, as much as the whole "everything is garbage, your favorite anime sucks, fuck it all" mindset isn't for me, the "this anime is GREAT and if you don't like it you're just an elitist snob!" approach isn't much better.
So something can be not entertaining but good?Jexhius said:
cj_iwakura
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Thanks for reminding me I've never seen Code Geass, and am kind of afraid to.
Where does it even start at?
Where does it even start at?
hosannainexcelsis
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Sennorin said:
I'm not trying to upset you. Of course you can like Death Note - I enjoyed aspects of it, and said as much. But the overall mindset of Death Note that the world is made up of gullible pawns who exist solely to be toyed with by the few intellectual elites really grated on me. It poses an interesting moral question with the existence of the Death Note, but it fails to consider it on anything but the shallowest level. It's good entertainment, don't get me wrong, but I have no qualms about calling it inferior to the poetic beauty of shows such as Haibane Renmei or Mushi-shi. Those shows are more thoughtfully planned out and executed.
Also, I wouldn't call Cowboy Bebop laid back, but that's another discussion.
tiff said:
I wouldn't consider Grave of the Fireflies entertaining, but it is definitely good.
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cj_iwakura said:
Episode 1? Most shows do.
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Aren't these two of the founding principles of AnimeGAF?tiff said:
cj_iwakura
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cosmicblizzard said:
I mean series wise. There's like three of them?
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cj_iwakura said:
There's 2. Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion is 25 episodes long and the first season. The 2nd is Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 which is also 25.
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Indeed, it is another generic harem show, and a bad one too with constant plot holes, terrible writing, boring action, and more.shintoki said:
But is it really so hard to understand that I might prefer watching that to something I quite dislike like Geass (or Death Note)?
I hate Death Note too. Bad show, and not my kind of thing at all. I hate the characters, I hate the story, I hate how pointlessly depressing it is, etc, etc, while I can't think of anything actually positive to say about the show. But yes, those other two are pretty good, certainly much better than Death Note or Geass...Sennorin said:
See, when you have a show like DN or Geass or Black Lagoon (I hate that one too) where the main character is evil, I'm probably not going to like it. I don't like evil main characters, I just don't. It's no fun to watch and usually leads to horribly depressing storylines too. Bad shows, all three of them. (I imagine some would argue Lelouch isn't evil, it's maybe a debatable point, but he's certainly not good, that's for sure!)
Regardless of my great dislike for DN's concept, that's one of the most wrong things I've heard recently in this thread...
Haibane Renmei is one of the greatest animes ever made. Stupid stuff like Death Note is absolutely no competition for it.
hosannainexcelsis said:
I simply wouldn´t ever compare shows that are so completely different in style and nature. I love Mushishi and Haibane Renmei, but I also love Death Note. Maybe I didn´t have the same qualms with DN that you had because I could really share Light´s sociopathic world view
Though, stating that DN wasn´t thoughtfully planned out sounds wrong. Lack of proper execution would be certainly true for the second half, though, agreed. Different people like different anime, that is only natural. But I remember when DN was first released and really everyone around me loved the show. Myself, obviously, included. Seeing such harsh words now just feel weird. That is all.
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hosannainexcelsis said:
I don't really want to get into a long discussion on this, but that seems to be more of an interpretation thing. I can definitely see where Sennorin is coming from.
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I wouldn't put Renmei above Lain, but ABe's art was god tier.
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cajunator said:
I said "one of" because Lain is better than Haibane Renmei. Nothing else, though, it's in second. (Kino's Journey is third on my list)
Bah, arguing about personal preferences, if pointless (because it's unlikely anyone will change their mind), can be entertaining... why not do it?
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Sennorin said:I simply wouldn´t ever compare shows that are so completely different in style and nature. I love Mushishi and Haibane Renmei, but I also love Death Note. Maybe I didn´t have the same qualms with DN that you had because I could really share Light´s sociopathic world view
Death Note certainly has a much different goal than Mushi-Shi or Haibane Renmei and it is often successful at that goal, although the plotting does get out of hand, especially in the second half. But - and call me elitist if you want - but I place a higher value on shows which aspire to be art and actually mean something than shows which are solely aiming for popcorn entertainment. I enjoy the latter, but it will never move me or change me in the way the former can.
GAF in general is much harsher on popular shows than the broader anime community, so you'll have to get used to it. Don't take it personally though - I try not to take discussion in that angle myself.
Thats true. Arguing is what makes NFL-gaf fun for example.
Anyway, it's too late for me.
Code Geass R2 1
Hmm. 2018. Years after the original rebellion.
Such a campy reintroduction to the characters. It's so cliche it hurts.
Holy shit. Firing squad. that's so wrong it's almost funny.
If uhh...
..then why is
? There is a really stupid reason for this, isn't there?
Is that Kallen...bunny...girl...HNNNNNNGHHHHHHHHHHH.
"You filthy lying adult!"
Code Geass terrorism is best terrorism.
How the hell do they still have access to their
? Aren't they filthy Elevens? Did the Brittanians not confiscate
?
Matrix style slow motion rescue sce- Oh shit, he fucked up anyway. Oh well.
I am an angel...Nah not really. I'm still C.C.
? That's why everything is like this?
So like, instead of actually
, they...
? OH thats brilliant.
THATS FUCKING BRILLIANT
This whole episode was a huge FOOLED YOU and Fuck you to anyone who watched the original series.
Anyway, it's too late for me.
Code Geass R2 1
Hmm. 2018. Years after the original rebellion.
Such a campy reintroduction to the characters. It's so cliche it hurts.
Holy shit. Firing squad. that's so wrong it's almost funny.
If uhh...
Zero is dead
Lelouch alive
Is that Kallen...bunny...girl...HNNNNNNGHHHHHHHHHHH.
"You filthy lying adult!"
Code Geass terrorism is best terrorism.
How the hell do they still have access to their
mechs
the machines
Matrix style slow motion rescue sce- Oh shit, he fucked up anyway. Oh well.
I am an angel...Nah not really. I'm still C.C.
Amnesia? You mean you FORGOT that you're Zero
So like, instead of actually
KILLING Zero
implanted fake memories
THATS FUCKING BRILLIANT
This whole episode was a huge FOOLED YOU and Fuck you to anyone who watched the original series.
hosannainexcelsis
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tiff said:
I had a lot of fun watching Garzey's Wing, and it is about the last show I would ever call good.
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It takes a lot for me to enjoy something ironically. Garzey would be one of those things along with really shitty hilarious stuff like the Zelda CD-I cutscenes. Most things that I enjoy, I consider them legitimately good.
Interesting. Looks like NicoNico is having some sort of livestream event for Rurouni Kenshin Trust and Betrayal in about a week and a half, and one for Reflections later in Septmber.
http://live.niconico.com/watch/lv59574534
http://live.niconico.com/watch/lv59574534
(copied from the press release)
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Little Women - Episode 1
As Kid my ranking was:
Jo > Amy > Meg > Beth
but I guess I am now part of Team Beth.
As Kid my ranking was:
Jo > Amy > Meg > Beth
but I guess I am now part of Team Beth.
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Ahahahaha... I'm using my Droid X to post at work. Those are all misspellings caused by bad Swype autocompletes. ROFL...Halycon said:
Birdy the Mighty - Decode - S2 1-4
Oh wow. Quite a bit more brutal than the first season. But damn good nevertheless. Probably the best show nobody watched. Too bad there's a snowball's chance in hell we'll ever get a third season. Not enough moe and fanservice? Fucking weeaboos...
Oh wow. Quite a bit more brutal than the first season. But damn good nevertheless. Probably the best show nobody watched. Too bad there's a snowball's chance in hell we'll ever get a third season. Not enough moe and fanservice? Fucking weeaboos...
Kaiji 2nd Season 19:
Omg, this show is such brilliance! These emotions, omg, so tangible. And I LOVE how all characters, good guys and bad guys, Kaiji and Ichijou, are so nervously looking forward to what´ll happen. So good. SO good.
My only complaint would be that, in the end, Pachinko is still about luck. All Kaiji´s plans and ideas only countered Ichijou´s dirty play, but they didn´t really raise the chances of the ball going on beyond normal stakes. This seems to contradict Kaiji´s revelation at the end of season 1, where he criticizes himself to have relied on luck and prayers, when he could have created his path to victory himself.
But, doesn´t matter now. Execution of this show is so brilliant.
Omg, this show is such brilliance! These emotions, omg, so tangible. And I LOVE how all characters, good guys and bad guys, Kaiji and Ichijou, are so nervously looking forward to what´ll happen. So good. SO good.
My only complaint would be that, in the end, Pachinko is still about luck. All Kaiji´s plans and ideas only countered Ichijou´s dirty play, but they didn´t really raise the chances of the ball going on beyond normal stakes. This seems to contradict Kaiji´s revelation at the end of season 1, where he criticizes himself to have relied on luck and prayers, when he could have created his path to victory himself.
But, doesn´t matter now. Execution of this show is so brilliant.
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