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The first half of Event Horizon was pretty good. It had a nice layer of dread and moodiness. Unfortunately, it all really fell apart in the last half when a bunch of crazy stuff happened.

Dr. Weir becomes Pin-Head or something. Doesn't really make much sense.

The guy out on the ship gets blown, apparently, hundreds of miles into open space, but manages to use his oxygen tank to propel him all the way back...where he gently stops on the front of the ship. Also, Dr. Weir breaks the front window and causes him to be pushed backwards AGAIN and yet he somehow comes back AGAIN. What?!

Dr. Weir/Ship is apparently super-strong and knows the heart of everyone on the ship, but not that the captain plans to blow up the connecting tunnel. What?!

Hell is apparently not that different from the core room of the EH except that a few people are hanging from the ceiling by barbed wire. Come on, Paul, show us something visually awesome here.

Double fake-out ending. Barf.

The Event Horizon is in orbit around Neptune SURROUNDED BY CLOUDS.
That one's in the first half though.

I could probably come up with some other stuff, but that gets my opinion across.
 
Sunshine is a pretty good film. It would be ****ing great if it weren't for
LULZ MAKING A NEW STAR(they really should've worked the q-ball thing into the film)*
and more impotantly
space zombie man
. Serious case of whuthefukz there.

*I've read the original screenplay has more scientic stuff written into it, and more scenes on Earth too. Original screenplay also shows a year date of 2050, which I believe the movie does not...I was more entertained believing the film took place hundreds of years into the future, 2050 is not plausible at all, yeah i know IT'S A MOVIE SET IN SPACE but I can suspend my disbelief only so much, see the earlier paragraph. :P

It's still a pretty good movie like I said, but man is it flawed.
 
good movie.

no joke it reminded me of young guns, red dawn, saving private ryan, alien etc as it has that same group thing going for it.

agreed though that the third act threw me a little and turned me off.
 
Spruce Moose said:
Say what you will about EH, but it has some of the most horrific images ever put on film. Awful stuff.
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Eh, it's Child's Play compared to, say, any given Hellraiser movie.
 
jett said:
Sunshine is a pretty good film. It would be ****ing great if it weren't for
LULZ MAKING A NEW STAR(they really should've worked the q-ball thing into the film)*
and more impotantly
space zombie man
. Serious case of whuthefukz there.

*I've read the original screenplay has more scientic stuff written into it, and more scenes on Earth too. Original screenplay also shows a year date of 2050, which I believe the movie does not...I was more entertained believing the film took place hundreds of years into the future, 2050 is not plausible at all, yeah i know IT'S A MOVIE SET IN SPACE but I can suspend my disbelief only so much, see the earlier paragraph. :P

It's still a pretty good movie like I said, but man is it flawed.
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I'm not sure if they were filmed or not, but the Earth scenes were cut because
they'd remove the impact of seeing the planet at the end

Also, I know Boyle mentioned in some interview that there was a much longer version of Cillian Murphy's character going over the computer simulations, which started all the way back with the construction of the ship. I'd assume some more of the scientific grounding of the mission would have been revealed there.

Still, I really don't think that science stuff matters one bit. You just have to accept that the sun needs to be restarted for some unexpected reason. Once you're passed that, the rest of the film (at least relating to the mission parameters) have a pretty damned tight internal logic.
 
I just saw sunshine today.
Cinematics were awesome. The dialogue was very gay. Unexpected villain and ending.
Love it.
Jebus le' Christ!
 
I think I will go see this tomorrow.

I don't really care if the plot seems 'plausible' and that shouldn't effect someones opinion of a movie. It's like going into the transformers thread and shouting science facts.

Plus even if you are thinking about the size, bomb could just be set up to cause a chain reaction inside the sun or something silly like that. <shrug>
 
Great Rumbler said:
The first half of Event Horizon was pretty good. It had a nice layer of dread and moodiness. Unfortunately, it all really fell apart in the last half when a bunch of crazy stuff happened.

Dr. Weir becomes Pin-Head or something. Doesn't really make much sense.

---im guessing you mean the weir at the end which really isnt him but something the ship is creating. weir dies when getting blown out into space

The guy out on the ship gets blown, apparently, hundreds of miles into open space, but manages to use his oxygen tank to propel him all the way back...where he gently stops on the front of the ship. Also, Dr. Weir breaks the front window and causes him to be pushed backwards AGAIN and yet he somehow comes back AGAIN. What?!

---he actually barely moves when weir breaks a hole in the front window and his boots are magnetic.

Hell is apparently not that different from the core room of the EH except that a few people are hanging from the ceiling by barbed wire. Come on, Paul, show us something visually awesome here.

---They were never shown hell but what would happen to them... the hell they were creating in the movie is one where it's the same world but made of pure evil/chaos, not your standard bible hell.

The Event Horizon is in orbit around Neptune SURROUNDED BY CLOUDS.

---The ship was found in low orbit around neptune. Realistic or not it looks cool.

---As for the ending, it works but i agree it's not great. In the two disc special edition of the movie it's mentioned that there's parts they were fixing including the ending but ran out of time. They also show a bunch of the half finished scenes during the interviews including more scenes with the original EH crew. It's too bad the studio didnt give them another two weeks to fully finish the movie.
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Spruce Moose said:
Say what you will about EH, but it has some of the most horrific images ever put on film. Awful stuff.
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Yet it was sadly censored to make an R rating and some stuff was cut out to make the release date.



Like it or not Event Horizon is a solid film and succeeds in what it was made for... scaring people. I really wish anderson would stop with all the crap videogame/spin off movies and do another horror....
 
xsarien said:
Eh, it's Child's Play compared to, say, any given Hellraiser movie.
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I dunno... I've only seen 3 Hellraiser movies but I don't recall seeing anything like the scene where they watch the fate of the crew on the ship's video log.

Like the post above me pointed out, apparently they cut out some stuff that was even worse, which I just can't imagine. People who come up with this shit are sick in the head I tell ya...
 
Spruce Moose said:
Say what you will about EH, but it has some of the most horrific images ever put on film. Awful stuff.
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Eh, I've seen worse than that; Silent Hill and Chanwook Park's Revenge Trilogy come to mind. Silent Hill in terms of sheer violence and Park's work in terms of pure impact.

Aside from the video of the crew, which was cut so fast that you can barely see anything substantial anyway, was more or less par for the course as far as R-rated horror movies go.
 
My only complaint as that it started to drift near the end.
The character of Pinbacker, while somewhat interesting, caused me to have flashbacks of movies like Alien and Event Horizon. His scenes weren't bad, but I thought that it could have been handled better than it was.

Aside from that, it was one of the greatest scifi movies that I've ever seen and easily takes a spot of my list of favorites.
 
xsarien said:
Eh, it's Child's Play compared to, say, any given Hellraiser movie.
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I respect your opinion, but Event Horizon had some of the most disturbing images have I seen. Just really freaky, disturbing stuff. I guess it is more of the stuff that is implied than graphically showing it. To this day I wish the video of the other crew was explanded upon and not cut as quick. Is there an un-edited version? I think I remember Anderson saying that the extra footage was lost or something.


Anyway back to Sunshine, I never even heard of it until they took over GAF for a few days. I checked out the trailer, I will go see it next week when it is in wider release.
 
Saw it last night. It's easily one of my fave sci fi films of all time despite last 1/3 of the film. Anyone care to give me their take on
the captain of the 1st icarus? What was he trying to accomplish by letting the sun die? Did he really talk to god or did him being nice and crispy affect his brain?
 
Days like these... said:
Saw it last night. It's easily one of my fave sci fi films of all time despite last 1/3 of the film. Anyone care to give me their take on
the captain of the 1st icarus? What was he trying to accomplish by letting the sun die? Did he really talk to god or did him being nice and crispy affect his brain?
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I think the movie lets you decide that for yourself.
 
This movie felt like most other space movies for the first two thirds, and it was pretty alright until it had a very disappointing last third. I would not recommend it.
 
Just saw it. I found it to be a truly awful film that was disastrously miscast, poorly written (that "flyboy" line almost had me walking out), and boring all the way until the absurd and clumsy "twist." I won't mention the many highly ridiculous leaps of logic the audience is expected to make. Sunshine wants to be an idea movie, only it has no ideas. On a positive note, the produciton design is nice and the model of the ship is cool and believable. Unfortunately that doesn't stop the film from being a dizzying array of missed opportunities.
 
Mercury Fred said:
Just saw it. I found it to be a truly awful film that was disastrously miscast, poorly written (that "flyboy" line almost had me walking out), and boring all the way until the absurd and clumsy "twist." I won't mention the many highly ridiculous leaps of logic the audience is expected to make. Sunshine wants to be an idea movie, only it has no ideas. On a positive note, the produciton design is nice and the model of the ship is cool and believable. Unfortunately that doesn't stop the film from being a dizzying array of missed opportunities.
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actually it had some good things going with it
like everyone of the crew died, usually these kind of movies have a happy ending with atleast someone surviving. (which is cheesy)
 
SantaC said:
actually it had some good things going with it
like everyone of the crew died, usually these kind of movies have a happy ending with atleast someone surviving.
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As the characters didn't resonate at all, seeing them die was no biggie. Now, if the plan had failed that would be one thing. But you still get the nice day on Earth happy ending.
Really, the only good thing in it for me was some of the design. Everything else was a wash.
 
Mercury Fred said:
As the characters didn't resonate at all, seeing them die was no biggie. Now, if the plan had failed that would be one thing. But you still get the nice day on Earth happy ending.
Really, the only good thing in it for me was some of the design. Everything else was a wash.
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the design really felt solid and futuristic
 
Saw it on Friday. If 2001 and Event Horizon had a beautiful 20 year old daughter you wanted to **** in every way possible, this'd be it.
 
SantaC said:
one of the best sci-fi movies of the 21th century. Maybe it doesnt say much though.
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I am inclined to agree with this. I am also wondering what all the haters expect a science fiction movie to say. This is a genre that has no obligation what-so-ever to reality. It is "fiction based on imagined future scientific or technological advances and major social or environmental change" (dictionary widget knows whats up:D ). The only reason this it is separate from fantasy is that it at least makes an attempt to back up the world its created with science from its own world. I don't know how any of you people crapping on the logic manage to enjoy most movies if you cant suspend your disbelief. I could probably scoff through every movie I see, but I paid my $10 so I try and be a good viewer, I hate people that plop down in the seat, throw their hands in the air and command, "Entertain me." Being an active viewer leads to a more enjoyable experience and it actually makes it easier to recognize a crappy story, thats story and not idea. The ideas used in movies can be total crap but if it works with the movie to enhance the story overall I say it doesn't matter.

I really enjoyed how this movie didn't wear the typical sci-fi hat. I thought that it was continually morphing into different genres without using elements that we've seen before or becoming over complicated. Well, thats my opinion, its been a while since I've seen a movie with such intensity, and if I can follow/understand the logic within the context of the movie I don't mind a little original fiction, science fiction.
 
i saw the movie last night, and i really enjoyed it. the movie was actually a lot better than i thought it was going to be. the story was good and the flow of the movie was very well done. i liked how this movie went for realism instead of being like every other futuristic space movie. the only complaint i have about this movie was
the constant blurring of the camera everytime that crispy-psycho captain came on screen
, but understand why it was done and only bothered me just a bit.
as a whole, this movie rocked and kept me interest all the way to the end. basically the entire last half of the movie kept me on the edge of my seat and had my adrenaline pumping... there are not many movies that have done that to me.
 
Dexter said:
Best movie of the year so far. Lovely.
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I agree

I was seriously on the edge of my seat the whole time. God I love a good sci fi movie.

It is very 2001 space horror-esque.

Best movie I have seen this year
 
I'm inclined to agree with the 2/3 great, 1/3 awful impression. I think I should be seriously wary to invest myself in a Danny Boyle film, because I don't know that the guy can complete a third act. Same writer/director teamup from 28 Days Later which was also an idea film, that ran out of them at the end and had the same problem.

On the bright side(no pun intended), there's a lot of good stuff early on. A bit weak on the character development, but in visuals and the realization of a lot of these ideas it's great. Very enjoyable. I'm a mixture of pissed and dissapointed in where it ended up going unfortunately.
 
I enjoyed the hell out of it --- a great mix of pretty stimulating hard sci-fi and an ample dose of science-fantasy just for suspense. There's enough modesty to bring you into it all, but still requires a little suspension of disbelief (of the 28dayslater variety)

I recommend seeing it since non space-cadet sci-mythology is hard to come by these days.

and if you dig the hard sci-fi stuff go rent "Voyage to the Planets and Beyond" which is a pretty well done BBC fakeumentary
 
I'll agree with the rest saying the first 2/3rds of the movie was great, but the last third was pretty terrible. Well, not terrible, but it became a generic space horror movie, which is a pretty terrible thing in light of the superb beginning and middle.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Why was everyone in the crew so pretty? I had no idea most astronauts were so good looking, especially judging by those photos from that astro affair scandal.
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Normally I wouldn't waste my time criticizing someone's criticism, but this is a particularly stupid nitpick. =/
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Why was everyone in the crew so pretty? I had no idea most astronauts were so good looking, especially judging by those photos from that astro affair scandal.
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Um, because they are actors? And most actors are pretty?
 
Slurpy said:
I find it absolutely hilarious that the premise is that a man made nuclear warhead can 'jump-start the sun', the relative size compared to the earth which you can see in the below representation:

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It was ridiculous enough in 'The Core' (horrible movie) but it seems entirely plausible next to this notion- that a nuclear warhead can have any impact on some which takes up the size of ~ 700,000 earths.
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Dude.....
its_the_future.jpg

it's the FUTURE! :D
 
okay this thread inspired me to watch Event Horizon. Please, how can anyone say that was a good sci-fi movie? It's one of the cheesiest stuff I ever seen. What were all those good actors doing in a c-movie like that? Some disturbing images sure, but nothing that really scared me because everything seemed so stupid.
 
J2 Cool said:
:lol Everything, or the last third? It just really sours the entire movie what they did with it.
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Everything, but especially the last third of the movie. There was this sllloooooww buildup into the last third, which ended up being a joke.
 
I saw this film months ago in Hong Kong, and thought that was a bad sign. Why the delay?

At first I was really disappointed, but the more I think it over maybe I'll give it another shot.

It's certainly a beautiful film with a great concept, no doubt. And I thought it did a competent job of combining elements of movies like 2010 and Solaris, but I never really felt it had it's own identity, or just couldn't execute it.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
Not really, but seriously, continue on, people. Ignore me. I already answered my own question.
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I don't think Benedict Wong is really all that handsome. He's an awesome, awesome character actor. But not exactly pretty boy material.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Saw it earlier today.

When you read the plot you just "LULZ!" but then you watch the trailer, look at who's directing, look at the cast, and then you just say, "okay, maybe it might be not so bad..." Still, the plot is a bit weak but the movie is very well made. Great cast, a little on the overblown editing style, but it was done with purpose to create suspense and it worked. The CGI was great though. Dialogue kinda sucked though.
 
this movies was a maybe for me until i read in the city paper (d.c area) that the soundtrack is done by underworld. woot!
 
icarus-daedelus said:
The rest of 'em are pretty much hotties, though. It's like Wong had to carry the ugly stick for the rest of them.
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Thanks goodness I saw the trailer and know I don't have to
watch him the whole movie *rolleyes*
 
I saw it this afternoon.

I really really enjoyed it. Not as much as 28 Days Later, but still liked it a lot. I don't know much about the feasibility of such an undertaking as depicted in the film, but I think the way they presented it lended it some credibility even if it's probably impossible. Once again, I liked the emphasis Boyle put on character development. Few of my perceptions of the characters remained the same from start to end. Characters that came off as douche bags (like the guy who plays fire guy in fantastic four) ended up getting my respect by the end.

The only thing I didn't like was the curve ball they threw 3/4 through. I felt that they should have either expounded on the antagonist or left him out entirely. Throwing in a character like that just to stir things up felt unnecessary and tacked on.

Overall though, still very enjoyable.
 
wow this movie sucked ass. maybe i was just in the wrong mood at the time, but what the **** this was a pointless movie.

it was just a "boring" movie up until about 20 minutes left when that
zombie guy comes out. what the **** was that? how did he get super strength to own everyone? wtf was happening at the end?
the movie was just poorly made. it reminded me of that movie with lawrence fishburn from 1999. event horizon? i don't remember. anyways, the movie was lame. i like the director, i like most of the actors, but the movie amounts to being sub-par and boring. all in my opinion i know, but jesus christ....
 
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