Boy Wander
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Nobody has played Odyssey so there's nothing to talk about.
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Super Mario Odyssey - 10/10 from Edge
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Nobody has played Odyssey so there's nothing to talk about.
elshoelace
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I'm curious too...I went to the last page of what I thought was a Mario Odyssey review score thread and find everyone hashing out what is the best or worst Zelda game lol.
Here to say TP is the best Zelda followed by Skyward sword.
Wind waker is trash tier
Botw is pretty great for it's overworld and exploration but it completely failed on the dungeon part. Game treated dungeons as babies first puzzle solving in a Zelda game.
It's lack of meaty dungeons and lack of items to juggle in solving puzzle drops it down a notch.
Zelda to.me is all about dungeon puzzle solving and items. Both botw severely lacked/half baked
Wind waker is trash tier
Botw is pretty great for it's overworld and exploration but it completely failed on the dungeon part. Game treated dungeons as babies first puzzle solving in a Zelda game.
It's lack of meaty dungeons and lack of items to juggle in solving puzzle drops it down a notch.
Zelda to.me is all about dungeon puzzle solving and items. Both botw severely lacked/half baked
Lord of Ostia
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It doesn't mean anything except to the person who reviewed it.
Gotdatmoney
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The only thing TP has going for it is Dungeons, Bosses and Midna. Too bad you gotta slog through all the filler bullshit in between to get to it. TP would be a better game if it was half the length. As is though meh. I think BOTW is better.
Telephone Man
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True. The horses are awful and almost useless in BOTW, but it's so easy to ignore them.
Sygma
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That I totally understand, even tho when playing Botw im almost always on foot because the horse stuff is as bad as Witcher 3. I miss my red talking boat
AlexFlame116
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Everyone enough with the Zelda talk please.
Telephone Man
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Some (including me) felt one Zelda or another didn't deserve a 10 from Edge, so the thread turned to chaos.
LordOcidax
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This thread is going to have 100 pages before the reviews drops... Meltdowns are going to be glorious this time. Nintendo is back.
Flying Fish
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Edit: off-topic
FloweryMarston
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the SS reviewer is probably not even employed at edge anymore
FloweryMarston
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yes, the game seems to have almost the same amount of korok seeds in botw and they talk about how the game borrows the exploration aspect of botw.
Boy Wander
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We should get more tomorrow. Subscribers get their copies then.
Cool. I'd heard about the first thing but not the second. Alright then, proceed your Zelda deliberations.
This score really needs some bullet point information to go along with it. There isn't much to discuss when all you have to consider is a number (beside the Korok seed comparison).
Heartskips
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The fact people have to bring up Skyward Sword to dismiss a Mario review 5 years later is insane.
Even more when SS really is a 10/10 game.
And I'm acutally Obama's lost son. No really what the actual fuck.
Belgian Dude
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I don't know if it's been posted yet, but on terms of story, apparently "Bowser is at its most competent and Peach is no helpless damsel either, with her role expanding on the postgame (though not exactly in the way you might expect)."
Also apparently a "single late-game reaction shot has ramifications to the series' lore" and
"there's a thrilling final throwback to 64 around the climax of the game."
FloweryMarston
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mario lore best lore
I think we should be talking about how PUBG will eventually beat out GTAV as most sold game.
TheSpaceBetween
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Did they mention the size of the world compared to BotW? Hopefully much smaller. My biggest complaint against it is vast spaces of nothingness.
"Twilight Princess has more innovation than Breath of the Wild" is an opposite day level statement. Like, I'm going to need an essay on my desk about that because it's indefensible to my way of thinking.
The entire foundation of Twilight Princess was "let's go back and make an Ocarina successor". It has some inventiveness in it's dungeons, but the fundamental design of the game is the safest of all of the 3D Zelda games by a large margin. Breath of the Wild basically only does new things for the franchise and even for the genre.
Belgian Dude
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They mention the worlds are more compcat, yeah, though I think the feeling of "empty space" is already more diminished because the levels are separate.
Boy Wander
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Shortly to be known as Horizon: Zero Awards. Which by all accounts would be a little unfortunate having to go up against ATG Zelda and Mario in the same year.
Heartskips
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Not sure about inovation, but it had more personality. The game has a dramatic feel overall and the art direction + writting work together pretty well to show that to the player. The idea of having a dark princess as the main companion, while Zelda - the light princess - is sidelined is original too as past Zelda titles worked with the concept of the light needing to beat the darkness, not co-existence like TP.
Aya Kyogoku, AC: New Leaf's director, wrote the script and you can see how the whole TP world feels alive because of it.
BOTW has problems like the characters and story saying you have to go fast to beat Ganon and save the world, but the game wants you to explore and chill at the same time. It just doesn't work.
TheSpaceBetween
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Good to hear. I've been on media blackout for the game since E3, though what I have seen it does look more dense, which makes me happy.
Spyder_Monkey
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Have you played the game? A literal ghost appears at the end of the tutorial and basically says "You're not ready to take on Ganon, take you're time to explore and prepare."
Dark Cloud
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Can the topic title be changed to "What's the best Zelda game"?
mrmickfran
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Fixed. Even though I was the one who started the Persona discussion.
Eh, they were okay, but very few puzzles in BotW scratched my puzzle itch the way past Zeldas have. I can sum up most shrines in BotW with "That's it?!" I think part of it is by not having traditional dungeons and keeping all puzzles separate there are no real overarching connected puzzles or sense of progression with them.
Eh, Ancient Cistern, Lanayru Mining Facility, Sand Ship, and Sky Keep are all top-tier dungeons, and I would say that Skyview Temple, Earth Temple, and Fire Sanctuary are all solid good dungeons. Skyward Sword has no bad dungeons. And on top of that the sections between dungeons are mostly great (especially the desert and Silent Realms). Sky Keep deserves extra praise for not only being the only final dungeon in a 3D Zelda to have some meat to it, but also making me like a sliding tile puzzle. I hate those!
Wait until they see the levels that look like this:
(This is not Luncheon)
Heartskips
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Yes, all beasts/memories/master sword. The characters do bring up a lot how Ganon is going to free himself and destroy Hyrule soon, yet there's no sense of urgency in the gameplay.
AlexFlame116
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Zelda Wars Episode LXIV: The TP Fans Awaken. Oh yeah and Super Mario something something Edgy 10.
Boy Wander
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Someone better come up with a decent OT subtitle for this game.
Spyder_Monkey
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Every hot take I hear about BoTW ends up being worse than the last. Is Mario going to be like this?
SUPER MARIO ODYSSEY |OT| ALL CAPS.
Boy Wander
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CharminUltra
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I'm gonna go ahead and guess that yes, Odyssey will indeed give some individuals BotW-levels of sodium poisoning.
mrmickfran
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