They're really emphasizing on Treehouse today that everything they've shown in each kingdom at E3 is just "a very small portion," "a narrow sliver" of all there is in each kingdom. This again makes me lean toward there being fewer kingdoms, but the kingdoms are VAST and DENSE.
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Super Mario Odyssey trailer (October 27th)
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I figured that was a given. I remember everyone thought they were showing too much of Zelda last year and look how that turned out. Nintendo seems to know not to spoil too much when it comes to adventure games.
titiklabingapat
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ARMs too so they know how to do it for MP games too.
Yeah, that's true, Zelda turned out to be absolutely massive. Even the Great Plateau still had secrets despite the countless hours spent there in the Treehouse.
On Treehouse, the director also just said that there are "many, many more things" we'll be able to control, beyond what we've seen at E3. And he repeated, again, that the true scope of each game world is far beyond what's shown at E3.
I'm excited. I love everything they've shown.
Did you also find out what's in here?
No, you fight this boss inside the cavern under the ruins:
Belgian Dude
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Did you also find out what's in here?
Sorry, no! I would have checked if I got a chance to play, but I'm just compiling footage from different places. I highlighted on the big post that you were the one to raise the possibility that something's there.
No, you fight this boss inside the cavern under the ruins:
Oh, wow, so the Ice Cavern is even more expansive than it looks like AND the Inverted Pyramid at Night will be something completely different? God these kingdoms are huge.
Also, on this latest treehouse segment, you could tell they were itching to go up here in the Wooded Kingdom haha.
http://imgur.com/a/1sof9
I just watched the entire first treehouse section and they said there that the amount of moons required to progress is just a small percentage of what is avaible. They kept pressing that the game was huge, so I'll take them at their word for it. I don't want it be too big either tbh, the 120 standard in 64/Galaxy/etc feels pretty ideal.
Moved on to watch some of the wooden kingdom vid, but I don't to see too much yet so I'll leave it there. If there are short segments in other worlds that are must watchs I'd love to hear it though.
Together with the Rabbids game, Mario really claimed this E3. My two games of the show.
It's a lush forest surrounded by a glass dome sitting in the middle of a frozen wasteland. Seemed pretty obvious.
It seems likely that Bowser kidnapped musicians from New Donk City.
I imagine he attacks Luncheon Kingdom for wedding cake, food, and/or champagne. If you look at the map the southern part of the kingdom looks like a champagne bottle shooting champagne:
And the bubbling pink "lava" reminds me of champagne.
Cap Kingdom for wedding clothes.
The part of my sentence you didn't bold was the non-obvious part: namely, Bowser is looting it for wedding flowers.
At any rate, I wonder what wedding-related stuff Bowser will get out of the Cascade Kingdom?
No, you fight this boss inside the cavern under the ruins:
Seems like you're going to get a lot of views as reddit (/r/NintendoSwitch/) is enjoying the video
The NPCs at the starting point tell you he stole flowers. And there's a sphinx who asks you what Bowser stole and you have to answer correctly to open more of the world.
I can't think of what Cascade Kingdom has for the wedding. A veil? Maybe that's where the crown Peach is wearing came from? (From the Atlantis place).
I didn't see that. But it sounded like you were saying it was obvious (as in, from the first trailer) that it was a greenhouse where Bowser would go for wedding flowers. Apologies if I mistook your tone!
OrbitalBeard
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Yeah, I'm starting to think this game will have fewer levels (Kingdoms) than something like Mario 64, but it's not going to matter, because each one is huge, varied, and packed full of content.
Well it was obvious that it was a greenhouse, but the treehouse guy who asked the question thought it was some kind of sci-fi virtual display screen
It wasn't clear what Bowser was doing to the kingdoms until the stuff about the wedding ring and and flowers. Though I wonder where the ice came from in Tostarena.
Dang, no I didn't. I had no idea you could go down into the sewers.
Pretty sure they called them Steam Gardeners.
Shil Pencer
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Just preordered all 5 amiibos and Mario Odyssey from best buy. The wait is already killing me
water controls!! they look amazing.
in the last super mario odyssey treehouse stream, they showed mario controls under water.
Starts at 22:30 minutes into the video. However, a bit later, it's when the can be seen best, in a 2D swimming section, at 24:35 into the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NDihsmDN0Q).
in the last super mario odyssey treehouse stream, they showed mario controls under water.
Starts at 22:30 minutes into the video. However, a bit later, it's when the can be seen best, in a 2D swimming section, at 24:35 into the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NDihsmDN0Q).
psychotron
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I can't believe what I'm seeing in these videos. The game looks absolutely incredible. So many innovative ideas and it looks great graphically too. I can't wait so long for it!
dampflokfreund
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This thread is FULL of spoilers. I didn't wanted to hear about the secret of the wooded kingdom, nor the boss battle underground the ruins. Why are we not spoiler tagging this?!?
Fantastical
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Damn he sinks like a ton of bricks. Or maybe she can control that?
Because it's the topic discussing E3 stuff, spoilers aee kinda logical here.
Belgian Dude
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Technically this is the one about the trailer, but I don't think there's enough treehouse info to make a new individual thread about it. I spoilered most of what I posted but didn't think to do it for boss discussion since it appeared in the trailer, my bad.
I just adore the world-building in this game, in particular the way it's articulating spatial relations, with a town or city within each larger region:
- Bonneton, in the Cap Kingdom
- New Donk City, in the Metro Kingdom
- Tostarena, in the Sand Kingdom
- Steam Gardens, in the Wooded Kingdom
- Mount Volbono, in the Luncheon Kingdom
- Fossil Falls, in the Cascade Kingdom
And then within each of those locations, you have many named places identified by their checkpoint flags (which also appears to allow for fast travel via the map).
Details like Pauline being the mayor of New Donk City, or the lion-like Jaxis as the main means of transport in Tostarena, are also great. So is lore like the legendary wedding ring that forever unites two people, hidden near the Inverted Pyramid of Tostarena — a pyramid that also serves as the imagery for the region's currency. The travel brochures on the map screen are another welcome touch... Anyone have any high-res images of the ones they've shown so far?
I just really appreciate this approach, similar to Isle Delfino in Sunshine or pretty much every track in Mario Kart 8, where each place feels authentic with its own distinct inhabitants and way of life. I can't wait to learn the official name of the fork people who live on Mount Volbono, or to meet the denizens (if there are any) of the Cascade Kingdom.
- Bonneton, in the Cap Kingdom
- New Donk City, in the Metro Kingdom
- Tostarena, in the Sand Kingdom
- Steam Gardens, in the Wooded Kingdom
- Mount Volbono, in the Luncheon Kingdom
- Fossil Falls, in the Cascade Kingdom
And then within each of those locations, you have many named places identified by their checkpoint flags (which also appears to allow for fast travel via the map).
Details like Pauline being the mayor of New Donk City, or the lion-like Jaxis as the main means of transport in Tostarena, are also great. So is lore like the legendary wedding ring that forever unites two people, hidden near the Inverted Pyramid of Tostarena — a pyramid that also serves as the imagery for the region's currency. The travel brochures on the map screen are another welcome touch... Anyone have any high-res images of the ones they've shown so far?
I just really appreciate this approach, similar to Isle Delfino in Sunshine or pretty much every track in Mario Kart 8, where each place feels authentic with its own distinct inhabitants and way of life. I can't wait to learn the official name of the fork people who live on Mount Volbono, or to meet the denizens (if there are any) of the Cascade Kingdom.
CharminUltra
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When E3/Treehouse coverage is over
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
Joe Condor
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Byakuya769
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I need a switch ASAP.
Considering the wedding ring bowser was looking for in tostarena, I wonder if peach will slowly get her wedding outfit as we progress through the world?When E3/Treehouse coverage is over
DecoReturns
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When E3/Treehouse coverage is over
I can hear that Voice clip Nintendo always uses for Peach right now
Bowser might need to kidnap a bridesmaid.
Astral Dog
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Happy to see the spin jump, long jump, and dive all back together in a single game. Looks like Mario accelerates pretty quickly too.
This would be the greatest thing.
(Note: I am not endorsing kidnapping. Rather, I am advocating an appearance by Best Girl Daisy.)
((Although Pauline might be best girl now because that vocal theme is JAZZIN'))
Vault Dweller 111
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Dammit. You warned me and I should've listened.
So I was looking at the globe outside of the Odyssey and it is indeed the same as map artwork except...
- They're mirrors of each other.
- We can see on the globe that the island south of Metro Kingdom is indeed supposed to look like a champagne bottle, but the islands representing the champagne spraying out are missing.
- The west side of Luncheon Kingdom on the globe is very different from the map version. It's broken up into many islands.
- The continent that looks like it's made of snowflakes has quite a bit of green to it. Looks more like tundra. Also unlike the map version, it appears to be broken up into multiple islands.
- Not pictured in my screenshot, the circular island between Luncheon Kingdom and Cap Kingdom is green.
Lord_Byron28
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If every land mass ends up being an explorable kingdom in the game; I could see there being 4-6 more kingdoms.
And the bubbling pink "lava" reminds me of champagne.
Cap Kingdom for wedding clothes.
Yeah they showed that the area below the raised section of the wooded kingdom is also explorable which makes me think the everything inside the dome is explorable. Likewise, I believe it was shown that New Donk City is on a Skyscraper in a larger city. Curious if you can jump off the edge and explore too. I'm thinking the Kingdoms effectively replace the worlds from Galaxy and the 3D World series. I'm hoping they haven't revealled all kingdoms yet, I'd like to see a few more at least. I could see them having two unrevealed kingdoms for the final game bringing the total to 8 worlds. Then having 2 DLC packs containing 2 more world's in it. Which would bring the final total to 12 worlds including DLC. The Desert world looks the most interesting and varied of the bunch for me with a lot of different, varied and creative locations blending Latin American, Egyptian, Desert and Tundra themes together into one world.
Alcotholic
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Did Nintendo mention how many moons there are to collect in the game? They seem so easy to obtain.
Darkspineslayer
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Deep lore theory that came to me after realizing the Donkey Kong 25M theme was worked into "1-up girl" It's packed with self references.
So Odyssey has Mario traveling the globe, but that wasn't the first time that was considered. It was never officially released, but...
"Oh, we can zoom all the way to the moon,
From this great wide wacky world,"
Wacky Worlds
So Odyssey has Mario traveling the globe, but that wasn't the first time that was considered. It was never officially released, but...
"Oh, we can zoom all the way to the moon,
From this great wide wacky world,"
Wacky Worlds
Yeah, probably unlikely. I just find the word "wacky" a bit forced and thought it made for a fun connection
CharminUltra
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Super Mario Orifice