hmm On the subject of Nintendo equipment kind of lost to the ether. Do think a vitura boy thing will be incorporated?
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hmm On the subject of Nintendo equipment kind of lost to the ether. Do think a vitura boy thing will be incorporated?
BassForever
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May be hidden again and won't be announced til after launch. Real question is when will Sakurai announce more of his kirby characters, or Yoshi.
I know Sakurai didn't create this character but what about Prince Fluff?
Troubled Bat
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Pauline > Peach = Daisy = Rosalina
Maybe if 9-Volt got in.
I'm sure they could figure something out to make it less so .
You do not know how hard I hope that either him, or Ashley gets in.
I'm down with the first girlfriend (not really, she's probably one of the most irrelevant Mario characters ever). Don't know what the hell she could do though. Maybe she could throw Mini-Marios and Mini-DKs at people.
TwEE-N-Toast
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No I'm suggesting most smash fans don't know who these characters are and are going to pick a character based on visuals. A unique silhouette that cannot be confused with the other characters is part of a good visual design.
Having said that the beast man fire emblem character wasn't the best example. The cape can make things confusing.
Not saying add her as a character, just using her as an example of a character who won't be confused with others in the roster.
Yeah sure I agree, but that point could be said about King K Rool, Mouser or any character.
Smash should be used a lot more as for advertising upcoming and current projects. Include some characters and levels for X, Tropical freeze, Baynatto or whatever.
Include codes for free DLC Smash characters with the purchase of upcoming 1st and important 3rd party games as a way to get people interesting in games they might otherwise ignore.
USA Melee Launch: "The fuck is a Marth?" "Who the shit is Roy?"
Spring-Loaded
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She could be a dominatrix.
BassForever
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If a yarn character gets in it'll be yarn yoshi
I don't know why anyone wouldn't want her (or a fleshed out Daisy) in the game. I personally would love to have more female characters.
There's only 4 in the Smash series so far.
MercilessMercer
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Holy shit, Roy with Dual Swords and Fire would be too godlike.
Psycho_Mantis
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In my experience (anecdotal) most people who play smash don't even know who most of the roster are. They couldn't tell you who Marth or Metakinght is let alone the games they come from.
These people won't care that Roalina is a space orphan or Daisey really loves egg salad. They are just going to pick a character they find visually appealing, so to them the princesses might as well be a selectable colour swaps.
Look how similar (and dull in my opinion) their silhouettes are.
Compare this to the hundreds of visually interesting characters Nintendo has with strong silhouettes, shapes and colours.
Vote NO on Rosalina!
And besides, if you're really into visually dull characters they've got you covered with the Wii Fit trainers.
Bwahahaha at Misty...loooool I'm in tears. Little Mac deserves to be in and he actually offers an unique moveset as well.
MrSaturn99
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Screw Misty! I want Space Pirate.
TwEE-N-Toast
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You think Misty looks like the other characters there? Or did you miss my point?
I know one guy from another board who would take Bowser Jr. over Rosalina even though he HATES Bowser Jr.
MillionVolts
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Not true. While Leif was considered first, the decision to use Roy instead was Sakurai's after he got an early look of FE6. Him and the Smash Bros. DX team are even listed in the credits of FE6 under Special Thanks.
The other developers are not Sakurai's bosses and Smash Bros. isn't their game. While Sakurai probably has to get approval from them to use their characters, they can't force him to do anything.
Yeah they can.
Pokemon in particular, that approval they have to get is forcing. They get to decide who gets to be in, no matter how much sakurai wants it. They get the final say. That is how it works.
Red Arremer
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I remember an interview with Sakurai where he said working with GameFreak is really difficult.
Green Mamba
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Sakurai has spoken of it being most difficult to work with Gamefreak, but he has never said they flat out force him to do particular things, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Its just as much forcing as marvel does with capcom.
They are very particular with with their representation, some would call it rigid instruction. Forcing isn't exactly to far off, I guess the term forcing sounds harsh for some people. But they seem to have specific instruction to how they wish to be represented, and sakura need their approval. I can use a less harsh word, but its kinda force.
Hey you wanna use are properties, you have to do x,y, and z the way we say, and we may consider some suggestions you have. Forcing GF bad guys, or makes sakurai a victim, its just something he has to negotiate with. Crossoevers are hard.
I took that to mean Pokémon Company/Game Freak is strict with how its characters are depicted — that’s why the Pokémon have headwear and slightly different colors instead of six drastically different color schemes. As far as actually picking the Pokémon, that’s still up to Sakurai, though he does work closely with Pokémon Company for future-proofing with selections like Lucario.
I just don’t see Jigglypuff as a character Pokémon Company would have forced on Sakurai all these years, and the Pokémon Trainer is an overly complex (and Sakurai-esque) character that seems like an odd choice for an outsider to push. There just aren’t any playable Pokémon in the history of the series that stick out to me as being obviously forced.
You can use insisted.
I think a Wario Land VB Stage on the 3DS version would be a great way to represent Wario land and the virtual boy.
It really is kind of sad that Samus's defacto rival hasn't made it in smash yet.
Don't get me wrong, I dislike Ridley and I'd rather have several characters over him, but his exclusion seems... weird. Most of the "original 8" have their villainous counterparts.
eh.... I have no idea about all that. I'm sure he could offer suggestions. And they may very will listen, but choice? Nah that's them.
Its probably because they didn't i am sure GF isn't a dictatorship, they are just very specific.
I do not think they forced anything on sakurai character choice wise. I am aware however if they wished to exorcize they level of control , they could. They could be come like marvel and just be crazy. Though to be fair, character representation wise marvel 3 excelled at characterizing their characters , so marvel might be on to something.
I could, Sadly I'm not smart enough to think of words.
Red Arremer
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Actually, in that regard, I've talked with Chris Baker (one of the guys at Marvel's game division) about how they came down with characters in MvC3.
What happened was that Marvel gave a list of character suggestions to Capcom and Capcom could pick whomever they wanted. And then they would work together with Marvel to make the character representation close to the books (e.g. intro/outro quips of certain match-ups, Dr. Strange's incantations, or alt costumes, etc.).
There's one character that Capcom insisted on that wasn't on Marvel's list, btw, and that's Shuma-Gorath.
I would faaaaar prefer Bowser Jr. At least I can imagine him having a unique move set.
That is what I was getting at. I do not think any character was forced, however how they were represented , very particular. And I realize they could exorcize that right if they really wanted to . Its a dick move, but its been done.Edit: not really I guess, its only really a dick move when you dicktate all of it, but I would understand if a company had like 3 characters they were really pushing at the moment. I'm sure during marvel 3's development, they had to have usual's and and they i'm sure deadpool was being pushed.
I didn't know the first part though interesting.
Red Arremer
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Well, now Marvel is actually interested in taking care of its properties instead of just giving away licenses like they did in the 90s.
And for the better, too. I would have hated Capcom so much if they had screwed up Dormammu or Dr. Strange.
And for the better, too. I would have hated Capcom so much if they had screwed up Dormammu or Dr. Strange.
But he'll be a Bowser clone. ; )
Almost seems intentional with the whole Boo theme going, lol.
Agreed. Yesh some of those old marvel representations...
Now if we can capcom to stop making themselves broker , get some lawyers and license us up a new marvel for the generation.
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hehehe.
It wasn't intentional and I am a dummy
whoah. Did they name what they wanted to give away?
It's a shame that even Marvel didn't want Mega Man.
Only half of them do. Mario has Bowser, Link has Ganondorf, Kirby has Meta Knight/King Dedede, and Fox has Wolf.
Donkey Kong, Samus, Yoshi, and Pikachu are without rivals, and you could expand that list to Captain Falcon, Ness, and technically Jigglypuff as well.
Fun not real fact: Marvel was supposed to reboot DMC as a reboot to blade. But marvel didn't want them so they went to ninja theory.
"Just take anything besides Resident Evil or Street Fighter."
Red Arremer
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I guess you could count Mewtwo as the villain for the Pokemon.
No, but I imagine it wasn't going to be one of their top franchises through that would be suicide, it was probably something that was more or less dead like Ghost n goblins, Strider or final fight etc.
This is disturbingly sad.
Lol nothing you listed is dead (Nintendo only fan I presume?), strider (also belongs to the manga artist so he's co-owned) has just been reborn and they still love goblins. Most likely would be breath of fire.
That would actually work well incorporated into marvel.
"Also monster hunter, thats that pokemon money."
Yeah, could be cool. Though iirc, Strider is/was co-owned by a Squeenix designer. So that couldn't have been put up for offer at the time.
He still is, has to be given credit everytime he is in a game.
It would actually give marvel more excuses to use the hand.
Oh yeah, that would make things complicated.
Same thing with karin from street fighter right?