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[StereoVsn]

I would grab Demon Souls and double dip for Tsushima. Loved the latter and I am not playing Souls game without “easy” mode on PC .

All these games are older so would make some sense to port them and get some income even if it’s not a lot.

 

[Skifi28]

I hope Tsushima doesn't come out this year, already finished it three times on PS4/5 and I'll be dipping again for sure. Just let me fucking play something else for the love of God.

 

[Gaiff]

I think Demon Souls, TLOU2 and Ghosts are not coming out simply because Nixxes is busy with these games and ND isnt going to port another game to PC themselves.

Why not? They just cancelled Factions so they should have a lot of staff available. On top of that, they will most likely work with Iron Galaxy again for that port. I think it's coming out later this year. It shouldn't take that long to release it unless they once again want to capitalize on the TV show and get the PC port out for season 2.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

This seems more like an educated guess than a "leak".

 

[nowhat]

Nixxes is doing HFW right now. it took them roughly 9 months to port it. GOW Ragnorak is likely being ported by the same studio that ported the first game, and that took 2 years.

I expect Nixxes to go from HFW straight into Spiderman 2 for a November 2024 release with GOW Ragnorak also coming out that month.

I think Demon Souls, TLOU2 and Ghosts are not coming out simply because Nixxes is busy with these games and ND isnt going to port another game to PC themselves. Sucker Punch is too small to port Ghost and same goes for BP porting Demon Souls. And i highly doubt Sony gives these games to anyone other than Nixxes.

unless Spiderman 2 is coming out in December 2025 which would give Nixxes enough time to port one of those games to PC.

One would assume though that once an engine has been ported over (Decima/whatever Insomniac's is called, or does it even have a name?), subsequent ports would be easier/quicker? Even with improvements to the engine since the last port.

 

[Fredrik]

I'm surprised it's taking Sony so long.

I’m not. They want us to double dip. First PS5, then PC with some upgrades a year or three later.

 

[Adam_802]

Multiplat sony

 

[Hrk69]

On Steam? How?

You can add non-Steam games/apps to launch via Steam

There is nothing special going on there

 

[SJRB]

Tsushima goddamn better come to pc this year, the game is 3.5 years old at this point.

SONY PLS

 

[Paltheos]

And who is going to port all of those this year?

My 5 seconds of googling revealed that Nixxes, who the original poster claims is an employee of, is a porting company.

Either way this is just as good as your run of the mill, every day, groundless rumor. I'm already putting it out of mind. I do like the joke though that it's more plausible because Bloodborne's not on the list lol

 

[Fake]

Tsushima goddamn better come to pc this year, the game is 3.5 years old at this point.

SONY PLS

SONY: REMAKE TIME!!!!!!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Who knows how many recent franchises Sony will port to PC, but so far it's this. And that even includes sequels like LOU 2 and Horizon FW.

LOU
GoW
R&C
Horizon
Uncharted
Spiderman
Days Gone
Returnal
Sackboy
Helldivers
There's also even a bunch of Sony published games like Death Stranding and those cinematic SP games

The key games so far a no-show are:

GT7
The Show
Ghosts of T
Demon Souls

 

[Nickolaidas]

On Steam? How?

Nah, it ain't really on Steam, I just link the exe file of the PS3 emulator and made custom banners and icons.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Nixxes is doing HFW right now. it took them roughly 9 months to port it. GOW Ragnorak is likely being ported by the same studio that ported the first game, and that took 2 years.

I expect Nixxes to go from HFW straight into Spiderman 2 for a November 2024 release with GOW Ragnorak also coming out that month.

I think Demon Souls, TLOU2 and Ghosts are not coming out simply because Nixxes is busy with these games and ND isnt going to port another game to PC themselves. Sucker Punch is too small to port Ghost and same goes for BP porting Demon Souls. And i highly doubt Sony gives these games to anyone other than Nixxes.

unless Spiderman 2 is coming out in December 2025 which would give Nixxes enough time to port one of those games to PC.

Jetpack Interactive did the GoW port and it was really good. Wouldn’t be surprised if Sony buys them too.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Seeing how poor some of the pc sales have been…. Idk man.

Last of us 2 is a given but the rest are highly unlikely.

PC porting is assumed to be dirt cheap.

The bigger franchises have sold millions on PC, but some of the smaller titles seem like total stinkers (Sackboy, Returnal etc..).

So if a popular franchise gets ported and sells 1M copies at around $40 cut for Sony, that's $40M in net revenue alone. Minus off some dev costs and sale pricing and it's probably still $30M profit.

Sony's gaming division makes about $2 billion profit. One half decent PC port can add $30M more profit alone. And it's simply a port. Not a grassroots new IP or anything which would cost way more to make.

 

[Kilau]

Your telling me playstation, who has been porting their modern games to PC, is going to port more of their modern games to PC?

It’s been years of ports but we still have to act surprised each time.

On a side note, I have the PS2 version that I also played improved on an emulator and I have the PS4 Pro version, but Shadow of the Colossus is absolutely a game that I would re-purchase on PC.

Weirdly enough Sony doesn't seem to remember its existence when it comes to weighting the options for these ports.

It would be nice since they don’t seem to care textures are broken when playing on PS5.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Day 1 on Demon's Souls. Platinumed it on PS5 (it was the killer app for me) but I want to grab all the achievements on Steam too. Sony also releases their games on GoG and Demon's Souls would be cool if it ended up there, albeit unlikely.

Have it emulated, running on Steam, with 60FPS patch, ReShade lighting and modded 4K updated Textures.

I WANT.

THE FUCKING.

REMAKE.

How did you get it on Steam?

 

[Pejo]

TLOU2 is 100%, the others, eh

Exactly the opposite of my desires.

 

[SlimySnake]

PC porting is assumed to be dirt cheap.

The bigger franchises have sold millions on PC, but some of the smaller titles seem like total stinkers (Sackboy, Returnal etc..).

So if a popular franchise gets ported and sells 1M copies at around $40 cut for Sony, that's $40M in net revenue alone. Minus off some dev costs and sale pricing and it's probably still $30M profit.

Sony's gaming division makes about $2 billion profit. One half decent PC port can add $30M more profit alone. And it's simply a port. Not a grassroots new IP or anything which would cost way more to make.

While I agree that return over investment makes it worth it for Sony, your numbers are slightly off.

We know exactly how much revenue they earned from selling these games on PC. 1 million sales is basically equivalent to $26 million in revenue. my guess is that the 30% steam cut and those GMG/cd keys keys are costing them a lot of revenue but they seem to be ok with it since the cost to port these games seems to be $1.5-3 million max according to the latest insomniac leaks. GOW was ported by 4 guys over the course or 2 years so probably less than a million.

 

[Hrk69]

Day 1 on Demon's Souls. Platinumed it on PS5 (it was the killer app for me) but I want to grab all the achievements on Steam too. Sony also releases their games on GoG and Demon's Souls would be cool if it ended up there, albeit unlikely.



How did you get it on Steam?

You can add non-Steam games/apps to launch via Steam

There is nothing special going on there

 

[nial]

On a side note, I have the PS2 version that I also played improved on an emulator and I have the PS4 Pro version, but Shadow of the Colossus is absolutely a game that I would re-purchase on PC.

Weirdly enough Sony doesn't seem to remember its existence when it comes to weighting the options for these ports.

Those PS4 games that don't have PS5 versions are seemingly not in consideration anymore.

 

[bender]

While I agree that return over investment makes it worth it for Sony, your numbers are slightly off.

We know exactly how much revenue they earned from selling these games on PC. 1 million sales is basically equivalent to $26 million in revenue. my guess is that the 30% steam cut and those GMG/cd keys keys are costing them a lot of revenue but they seem to be ok with it since the cost to port these games seems to be $1.5-3 million max according to the latest insomniac leaks. GOW was ported by 4 guys over the course or 2 years so probably less than a million.

We know the porting cost of R&C ($2.6M). Wish I had this slide before I did estimates in another thread (below). lol

It looks like most games Sony has ported has sold between half a million to a little over 3 million unit with the exception of Sackboy if we are going by the Insomniac leaks. I'll try to be conservative and say they make 30-50% of MSRP selling their games on PC when you factor in Steam's cut, sales, key resellers, regional pricing. If you think that is too much or too little, feel free to readjust.

Title: MSRP - Units Sold = Earnings Estimate

HZD: $49.99 - 3.3M = $49.4-82.4M
GOW: $49.99 - 2.5M = $37.4-62.4M
DG: $49.99 - 1.7M = $25.4-42.4M
SM:R: $59.99 - 1.3M = $23.3-$38.9
UC: $49.99 - 483K = $7.2M-12M
MM: $49.99- 450K = $6.7M-$11.2M
SB: $59.99 - 62K = $1.1-1.8M

We also know the port of R&C cost $2.6M.

 

[Quasicat]

I’m wondering if Nixxes went on a hiring spree to get multiple projects going at the same time. That would be the only way they could get all this stuff out this year. Based on what the Sony higher ups have been saying about PC, I believe that this is their new push. Just not sure how profitable it would be to do that.

 

[ChoosableOne]

You can add non-Steam games/apps to launch via Steam

There is nothing special going on there

Oh I know. I want to directly open it via Steam, but I can't, without opening ps3 emulator first.

Nah, it ain't really on Steam, I just link the exe file of the PS3 emulator and made custom banners and icons.

True fan.

I guess I have to use desktop Demons Souls shortcut as always.

 

[adamsapple]

I’m wondering if Nixxes went on a hiring spree to get multiple projects going at the same time. That would be the only way they could get all this stuff out this year. Based on what the Sony higher ups have been saying about PC, I believe that this is their new push. Just not sure how profitable it would be to do that.

Naughty Dogs ported TLoU Part 1 themselves (hence its terrible state at launch), I doubt Nixxess will be handling all of these themselves.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Oh I know. I want to directly open it via Steam, but I can't, without opening ps3 emulator first.


True fan.

I guess I have to use desktop Demons Souls shortcut as always.

It's very easy to shortcut the game to your Steam Library, and I can PM you the pics to add them to your game. But yeah, it has to open the PS3 emulator first. Eh, big whoop.

 

[bender]

I’m wondering if Nixxes went on a hiring spree to get multiple projects going at the same time. That would be the only way they could get all this stuff out this year. Based on what the Sony higher ups have been saying about PC, I believe that this is their new push. Just not sure how profitable it would be to do that.

It's supplemental. The slide shows they made $300M in FY22. We know Spider-Man 2 cost them $315M to make. PC isn't going to be their focus as a sale on PC isn't a profitable nor does it have the same potential as a sale in their own ecosystem, but because these games are so expensive to make, looking for other avenues of revenue is smart. If on average PlayStation titles are selling a million units, that's $22-26M (depending if Sony's numbers are factoring in the cost of porting/marketing) for very little effort and their hardware sales haven't seemed to have been hurt by these efforts.

 

[Larxia]

If true, the "Sony is also discussing porting earlier games e.g. infamous Second Son to PC as well." is the most interesting part for me, because Gravity Rush is what I want the most on PC from Sony, so I do really wish they would release some of their older games.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

If true, the "Sony is also discussing porting earlier games e.g. infamous Second Son to PC as well." is the most interesting part for me, because Gravity Rush is what I want the most on PC from Sony, so I do really wish they would release some of their older games.

If I were Sony, when Xbox stops selling consoles and the PC port-begging reaches an all-time high, I'd make everything exclusive again. Because clearly the thirst is real then. Lol

 

[StereoVsn]

PC porting is assumed to be dirt cheap.

The bigger franchises have sold millions on PC, but some of the smaller titles seem like total stinkers (Sackboy, Returnal etc..).

So if a popular franchise gets ported and sells 1M copies at around $40 cut for Sony, that's $40M in net revenue alone. Minus off some dev costs and sale pricing and it's probably still $30M profit.

Sony's gaming division makes about $2 billion profit. One half decent PC port can add $30M more profit alone. And it's simply a port. Not a grassroots new IP or anything which would cost way more to make.

Plus it can create some hype for the sequel. Folks get say Ghost of Tsushima 1 on PC and say 2 is coming soon on PS5. A lot of folks would be tempted to not wait but get a PS5 to play it right away.

 

[ChoosableOne]

It's very easy to shortcut the game to your Steam Library, and I can PM you the pics to add them to your game. But yeah, it has to open the PS3 emulator first. Eh, big whoop.

I found a tutorial for it. Thanks.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I’d triple dip on demons souls for sure. Now, port kings field!

 

[BennyBlanco]

I’m wondering if Nixxes went on a hiring spree to get multiple projects going at the same time. That would be the only way they could get all this stuff out this year. Based on what the Sony higher ups have been saying about PC, I believe that this is their new push. Just not sure how profitable it would be to do that.

They aren’t strictly using Nixxes. They used Jetpack for God of War and they actually did a great job. They used Iron Galaxy for TLOU and Uncharted and they did a bad job.

Someone should really get QLOC on the horn. They are even better than Nixxes imo.

 

[Quasicat]

They aren’t strictly using Nixxes. They used Jetpack for God of War and they actually did a great job. They used Iron Galaxy for TLOU and Uncharted and they did a bad job.

Someone should really get QLOC on the horn. They are even better than Nixxes imo.

I know Sony owns Nixxes, what I’m wondering is if Sony owns these companies too, or if they are doing contracting work for them instead.

 

[Winter John]

I’d be up for DS and Bloodborne. Sony can keep the rest of em. I played Spiderman and that Ghosts game. Sub par Ubisoft clones both of em. They looked pretty but by fuckity Jesus if the gameplay wasn’t duller than a Mormon’s porn stash.

 

[fersnake]

On Steam? How?

you can add whatever executable (in this case a ps3 emulator) to steam you know, plus choose the icon, background image etc.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Makes sense honestly.

We’d already heard talk of Gran Turismo
Both Ragnarok and TLou 2 are too logical to hit this year, as is GoT.

Demon’s Souls is on the Nvidia list.

I’m in for everything except Gran Turismo.

In a couple years we’ll be caught up. They’re going to have to start bringing their back catalog over like Gravity Rush.

 

[ChoosableOne]

you can add whatever executable (in this case a ps3 emulator) to steam you know, plus choose the icon, background image etc.

I was talking about adding games individually and I found it and edited my post, but thanks.

 

[nial]

In a couple years we’ll be caught up. They’re going to have to start bringing their back catalog over like Gravity Rush.

You think Sony will stop making new games altogether?

 

[SmokedMeat]

You think Sony will stop making new games altogether?

No one said that.

 

[RickMasters]

Gt7 on PC seems like a no brainer.

 

[nial]

No one said that.

Then your assumption seems rather flawed.

 

[Sanepar]

This would be a dream year. Tlou2, ds, gt7 and ragnarok.

 

[Hudo]

Didn't the CEO of Sony recently say something to that effect?

 

[nowhat]

Didn't the CEO of Sony recently say something to that effect?

No. There's an interview from last year where the current, well-known, PS strategy WRT PC ports was reiterated. No new info there, especially relating to individual games.

Then some wanker (or in this instance, more like a master baiter) over at X-Twitter reposted the interview with his own (non-substantiated) interpretation that PC ports would be coming day 1. People went nuts over it as always, without fact checking it.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Then your assumption seems rather flawed.

What’s flawed about it? If ports release at a higher rate than new releases, PC will eventually be caught up.

 

[nial]

If ports release at a higher rate than new releases

They've been consistently released over a period of ~2 years after on console, so yeah, this isn't happening. Especially when you still have older games like GOT and DS that haven't been ported over.

 

[SmokedMeat]

They've been consistently released over a period of ~2 years after on console, so yeah, this isn't happening. Especially when you still have older games like GOT and DS that haven't been ported over.

Well, Sony released how many first party games last year?

 

[nial]

Well, Sony released how many first party games last year?

Spider-Man 2? (Since MLB and the VR games won't be ported over). Thankfully, you've got that one, TLOU2, Ghosts, Demon's, HFW, GT7 and Ragnarok all set until the end of 2025.

 

[Dorfdad]

Seems possible since this was leaked last year at this point I was holding out for ghosts but not waiting any longer grabbed it over the holidays for cheap and will be playing once I’m done with tlou2