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Tales of Berseria Import Thread
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I know, right? Kicking Baba out and trying new things are all for the best
I know that Baba keep giving advice but looks like the new director didn't give a damn. I read on some Japanese sites saying that this is one of Baba's advice for the game. He said that
Don't let Velvet have her revenge
Trying to think of negatives to write down:
- Graphics; characters look great, but holy shit that pop-in in still awful as fuck
- There was one part of the game that had a bit of backtracking, not much, but noticeable enough going through the same place several times
- (Spoiler) Fighting
- Edit: Oh yea, way too much loot. Hardly the worst problem ever, but heh
Everything else was great. Story and characters were awesome. So many locations to visit with lots of variety too! Took me 37 hours to finish the game.
- Graphics; characters look great, but holy shit that pop-in in still awful as fuck
- There was one part of the game that had a bit of backtracking, not much, but noticeable enough going through the same place several times
- (Spoiler) Fighting
Aifread in the same exact area as Oliver and his Onee-chan. Was disappointing he didn't get his own special area, and just felt like they put the fight there since they had nowhere else to put him
Everything else was great. Story and characters were awesome. So many locations to visit with lots of variety too! Took me 37 hours to finish the game.
Fuck Baba.
Dunno, but it could be the best thing to happen to Tales games, going by what's been said in this thread.
DangerMouse
Member
Can't wait.
How do the rest stack up? I was under the impression Magilou was most popular. The girls seem way more popular than the guys, for sure. Eizen is the only competitor.
Man, i slogged through xillia, trying to get to xillia 2, the story is fucking terrible, or the writing is... I dunno, i lost interest after the 10th time
Probably pass zestiria, but this... Looks interesting... Hoping for a much better story than xillia, (should i even bother with xillia 2? I have it... Just... Eh)
Alvin betrays you then comes back... Every time, i rolled my eyes so hard.
Probably pass zestiria, but this... Looks interesting... Hoping for a much better story than xillia, (should i even bother with xillia 2? I have it... Just... Eh)
After the huge Zestiria scandal, people realllly hate him now so he has been "promoted". At this rate, I doubt he would be back any time soon.
Notable Baba's bullshits
1)Zestiria's Rose because he likes her VA
2)He hates a certain artist so whatever character that artist designed will suffer in his game
1)Elenoa
2)Velvet
3)Magilou
4)Eizen
5)Rokurou
6)Laiphicet
Notable Baba's bullshits
1)Zestiria's Rose because he likes her VA
2)He hates a certain artist so whatever character that artist designed will suffer in his game
From what I've seen:
1)Elenoa
2)Velvet
3)Magilou
4)Eizen
5)Rokurou
6)Laiphicet
Sounds like something I'd hear on 2ch or 4chan.
I'm currently playing through it but, haha, fucking baba, classic stand up guy. Always with the moral lessons.
And I have no idea where to get devil arms
GasProblem
Member
Great to hear all the good impressions. Last Tales I've played was Verseria and I've been wanting a good Tales game ever since (on a platform I own) and it looks like this is it 
Reason I like Tales game is party interaction in scenes and skits. Makes me bond with the characters more then in most other JRPGS.
I'll probably pick it up whenever I'm done with Persona 5 (if Andromeda isn't out).
Reason I like Tales game is party interaction in scenes and skits. Makes me bond with the characters more then in most other JRPGS.
I'll probably pick it up whenever I'm done with Persona 5 (if Andromeda isn't out).
What about the certain artist ?
Dark_castle
Junior Member
What are some of your favorite Tales?
The artist who designed Ludger, Most of the characters he designed suffered in Baba's game
Yep, definitely sounds like something 2ch put together. Not saying it's not true or whatever (Rose's writing in Zestiria is inconsistent as hell, but so is a lot of the game), just sounds like something I'd hear in a tabloid that you buy at a grocery store.
They have a wiki for this too. Zestiria's story was a mess because Baba kept changing everything within the last stages of development. Voice's VA had to ended up prostrating herself on stage in apology to Tales of fans
Real or not. Now that the fans really hate him, he won't becoming back because the game wouldn't sell if he did. Just look how much better Tales of Berseria is without him
Didn't Berseria do worse than Zestiria? Or are we talking about actual quality of the game?
My first and last "Tales of" was Graces F. Even though I finished it, the MUH FRIENDSHIP theme sucked hard for me and made me lose interest in the saga.
I've heard that Tales of Symphonia is good, but I don't know... Shall I dig in with this one? Does it have an interesting plot?
I've heard that Tales of Symphonia is good, but I don't know... Shall I dig in with this one? Does it have an interesting plot?
He means quality, but the decrease in sales can (in part) be explained by the backlash from Zestiria about its quality and other practices.
Edit: ... which could mean that Berseria's more than positive reception could boost the series again, analogous to the way Zestiria decreased the sales for Berseria. That's still speculative for the coming years, though.
Or the lack of Baba's supervision. I mean, his game sold better after all. Never underestimate corporate stupidity.
Most interesting plot in the Tales game so far. Darker theme. No muh friendship at all. Minor spoiler
You're playing at the villain who would do ANYTHING to reach your goal
Perhaps, but the backlash was that violent (death threats, bomb threats) that they seem to have gotten the message that people were pissed and that the series has been damaged by it.
I think the game could do quite well in the second hand market, which is still big in Japan. That won't give Bamco much money, but they may get back part of their lost audiences in the next entry.
texhnolyze
Banned
What? Berseria is doing worse than Zestiria (I assume in Japan)?
I guess with words of mouth it'll eventually outnumber Zestiria. Especially for the English release after these good Japanese version impressions.
I guess with words of mouth it'll eventually outnumber Zestiria. Especially for the English release after these good Japanese version impressions.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Legendia has the best story and characters IMO. The gameplay sucked true, but story, characters, music, art style are among the best in the franchise.
PS2 era Namco Bandai puts out some of the best Tales really, they're all solid to good to amazing.
Symphonia
Abyss
Legendia
Destiny Remake
Destiny 2
Rebirth
Yeah, it still hasn't reached Zestiria first week.
The sequel usually suffers from the previous game's mistakes. For example, DMC2 sold a shitload because DMC1 was great. Then DMC3 sold like shit because DMC2 fucking sucked.
With digital sales it's 99% sure it did though (Zestiria didn't have a digital version)
Media Create
Famitsu
Digital estimates : ~25-30k
Unlike Zestiria it's selling a few extra thousands copies post 2nd week so it might be able to match Zestiria PS3 SKU when all is said and done.
And if the game is really good there's no reason that budget rereleases will not help it in the long term (the same way it did for Vesperia or maybe Graces F)
I know that's kinda a running gag but it's true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fJ40pDiqp8
Final batch of dlc skits came out today. They finally got their revenge!
I love these kits so much
After playing Berseria where also everything is voice acted, P5 feels kinda weird having so many unvoiced story contents
Final batch of dlc skits came out today. They finally got their revenge!
I love these kits so much
After playing Berseria where also everything is voice acted, P5 feels kinda weird having so many unvoiced story contents
R_thanatos
Member
Legendia has a fine story and great music , but the characters were just ///// NOT FINE ////
if i have to be polite.
Legendia characters are just not good. The characters actually destroy the good story.. i'm always impressed how they managed such a mismatch.
Whole Tales PR structure was apparently overhauled after the Zestiria PR debacle.
After being director from the Namco side for Destiny R Baba replaced Yoshidumi as the series producer/brand manager. For Vesperia that was his sole role, while the game specific production was handled by Higuchi. Starting with Hearts DS Baba handled both.
After Zestiria's release Hideo Baba is now only series producer anymore, like he was before Hearts DS. New main producer is Yasuhiro Fukaya who previously was part of the QA staff (suggesting he has a more hands on approach akin to Higuch) and joined the producers with the Western localization of Zestiria. And Baba shares his work with Kai Tanaka as series supervisor who was previously part of the PR staff (suggesting that Baba shouldn't be left alone with his work even when doing only PR anymore). Even within the development staff there's now someone (Kohei Rokugawa) credited for promotion planning, indicating that PR and development staff were not always on the same page before.
Unlike Zestiria Berseria's price is still stable and the sales show some actual legs.
FIFY
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I wasnt expecting to see english voice acting already so far along. I'm surprised this isnt until next year
I'd have to agree, Shirley in particular. Liked Norma, Chloe, and Senel(?) though.
Yeah, I know it's been selling decently after its first week. I usually lurk Media Create threads when a game I like is releasing.
I didn't know Zestiria didn't have a digital version, though. Thanks for that.
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah, it feels like we're hearing stuff really early, I thought we'd have to wait until like December or January to hear anything.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
The wait time is probably to accommodate the PC version development time mostly.
So much excellent praise for this game! Cannot wait to play it for myself. Might be getting a roommate who really liked Tales of Vesperia soon, so I might be playing this co-op first time through! The camera seemed pretty decent for co-op in the demo.
Berseria > Symphonia > Xillia > Graces f > Zestiria
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
😄
What was your favorite aspect/part (What made it the best Tales of in your opinion)? I forget if have already posted detailed impressions, if you have already then I guess there may be no need to go in depth now.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
'Twas a golden age for Tales games.
Jesus at the last boss (1st part). Is it even possible to do it on hard mode? Insubstantial already kills the whole team in one hit, but motherfucker just keeps spamming that spell. It would be like Rita in OL spamming Tidal Wave against us or something.
The AI is so awful against AOE, they just wait to die even when you order them to protect themselves (why are the strategy options getting worse with each game to begin with?).
The AI is so awful against AOE, they just wait to die even when you order them to protect themselves (why are the strategy options getting worse with each game to begin with?).
Finished the game, playtime is around 72 hours with most sidequests done. I managed to beat the last boss by using an all divide, it's much easier when the team doesn't get wiped in the first 5 seconds of the fight. Well, except for Rokurou (or Velvet but I play her), this guy just dies whether he is attacking or defending, at least the spellcasters keep their distance. The second part of the fight was easy.
Well, I think it was good overall but still suffering from some flaws. Let's get the bad parts out of the way the first : fields and dungeons. The only reason why the game is so long is because of them, and there is a lot of backtracking. While they look a bit better than Zestiria's (draw distance still as bad though), they're still huuuuuge and annoying, the random caves all look the same and look like dungeons I've been going through since Xillia. The Rare Board should have been given from the start of the game since we still have to unlock it in each map anyway.
The music is really mediocre, battle themes were alright but town, dungeon and field themes sound like something I've heard over a thousand time already. Well, that goes for the battle themes as well I guess. The only music who stood out to me is the Velvet theme. I really wish the game had better budget for the music, the new Go Shiina tracks in Zestiria the X own.
I didn't care much for the equipment/loot system. It's quite funny they want us to upgrade equipments but we're switching them so much to learn new skills, that it feels pointless until late game.
Now about the decent/good parts : the story is okay. It's not anywhere near as dark or edgy as some people believe. What happens to Velvet is fucked up but that's about it. What bothered me is that for a revenge story, there are a lot of fillers (oh the crew got sick so let's change the destination and pick some herbs, or the villain is so powerful that we have to search for shit around the world
). I also thought the story was just set in the Zestiria world, but it has a strong connection to that game and explains most of thing that will happen later on. It didn't need Zestiria the X to make a link.
Otherwise I liked the several themes of the story like emotion vs logic, or family. The story is carried by an excellent cast, by far the best one in the series imo. They're a bunch a of (likeable) bad guys, who aren't really friends and just had a common enemy. The interactions are really funny they have a good dynamic. Most of the characters are grown adults already so some don't get much development, but each character has series of sidequests which help fleshing them out further and conclude things. I thought that was really neat.
To finish, I liked the battle system even though it lacked depth (too mashy). I still want a return to side view and jump/aerial combos
Now I dunno whether getting the plat trophy first or starting Persona 5.
Well, I think it was good overall but still suffering from some flaws. Let's get the bad parts out of the way the first : fields and dungeons. The only reason why the game is so long is because of them, and there is a lot of backtracking. While they look a bit better than Zestiria's (draw distance still as bad though), they're still huuuuuge and annoying, the random caves all look the same and look like dungeons I've been going through since Xillia. The Rare Board should have been given from the start of the game since we still have to unlock it in each map anyway.
The music is really mediocre, battle themes were alright but town, dungeon and field themes sound like something I've heard over a thousand time already. Well, that goes for the battle themes as well I guess. The only music who stood out to me is the Velvet theme. I really wish the game had better budget for the music, the new Go Shiina tracks in Zestiria the X own.
I didn't care much for the equipment/loot system. It's quite funny they want us to upgrade equipments but we're switching them so much to learn new skills, that it feels pointless until late game.
Now about the decent/good parts : the story is okay. It's not anywhere near as dark or edgy as some people believe. What happens to Velvet is fucked up but that's about it. What bothered me is that for a revenge story, there are a lot of fillers (oh the crew got sick so let's change the destination and pick some herbs, or the villain is so powerful that we have to search for shit around the world
and still got played like a damn fiddle in the end
Otherwise I liked the several themes of the story like emotion vs logic, or family. The story is carried by an excellent cast, by far the best one in the series imo. They're a bunch a of (likeable) bad guys, who aren't really friends and just had a common enemy. The interactions are really funny they have a good dynamic. Most of the characters are grown adults already so some don't get much development, but each character has series of sidequests which help fleshing them out further and conclude things. I thought that was really neat.
To finish, I liked the battle system even though it lacked depth (too mashy). I still want a return to side view and jump/aerial combos
Now I dunno whether getting the plat trophy first or starting Persona 5.