GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
damn, the positive news for me is this is good for my wallet
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Tales of Berseria launching early 2017 in the West (PS4/PC)
- Thread starter Relix
- Start date
GasProblem
Member
Damn, environments look pretty nice and 60 fps is definitely an improvement. Still need to play Zestiria someday.
Now if they only confirm that the equipment skill system is dead, I can be happy.
NecroGiggles
Member
I really hope this tales game is on par or better then tales of vesperia. It seem like after Vasperia all the tales games have been missing something. They have a good battle system but the story is bad. Or everything is just okay nothing is great. Or it's all just bad very very bad.
RPGCrazied
Member
Hope its cheaper. $130 was a bit much last time.
I hope they make it pricier lol
I always buy separate artbook and soundtrack which are always cheaper and meatier
I see big empty fields. :/
PeterVenkman
Member
Asked before, but do we know if there's any character combining? It's completely ruined co op plays of the last two tales for me (zestiria and xillia I think?) as I try to play then with 3-4 people. Even with 2 it can be a chore.
R_thanatos
Member
Slow non-seamless battle starts are back.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
They should be cribbing Graces Title system really.
You already sound disappointed.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
The gameplay looks good, as I knew it would.
Before anyone complains about the graphics, the game has the partial defence of running at 1080/60. That is more strenuous, requiring double the rendering frames, so graphics are going to take a hit in that scenario, period, especially in a world with large enivirons. That's why most of us don't mind 30 FPS when it's required. Obviously the game is being built for PS3 in Japan as well though.
As for the battles being slow it doesn't look like that at all.
Before anyone complains about the graphics, the game has the partial defence of running at 1080/60. That is more strenuous, requiring double the rendering frames, so graphics are going to take a hit in that scenario, period, especially in a world with large enivirons. That's why most of us don't mind 30 FPS when it's required. Obviously the game is being built for PS3 in Japan as well though.
As for the battles being slow it doesn't look like that at all.
I think with that port they were more interested in how cheap you could possibly make a PC port. Like they hired a kid and gave him access to their engine and source code and paid him a 100$ to do this after school.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Pretty expected release window. This will probably be the first Tales I skip, though, so this news doesn't affect me to much.
dakkumauji
Member
i hope they don't include another figure
Well, it's the trademark of "Team Symphonia" style games to have slow battle start ups/noticeable loading with semi-fancy screen effects. Honestly didn't expect that to return, rather expected them to improve on the previously pseudo seamless battle starts. But that way I guess it also confirms that a (more) separate team worked on this game, and "Team Symphonia" style fans may be able to get excited about it.
What I'm more disappointed about is all the Star Ocean like running around, but that was to be expected after the battle system details were revealed earlier on, and I'm apparently an outsider for strongly disliking any free run in Tales.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Uh, they didn't. Battles are seamless like in Zestiria.
Edit: I guess they're not quite as seamless but the difference is minimal.
The loading is there to fix the camera angle issue with things blocking it in the real-time world from Zestiria I think. Not because it's trying to go back to the old style. They couldn't find a way to make battles work in fields in the world so they're resorting to this. I also think they're doing this in order to avoid the shitty large open spaces from Zestiria as well. We should see a much better complete package in terms of finesse.
DangerMouse
Member
Really excited for this game.
The JRPGs are finally coming
The JRPGs are finally coming
shikamaroooo
Member
Finished Zestiria last week and I am pumped for this
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Oh yea I really love the menu design
Hopefully we can have an option that allows an art style change just like in the Berseria Japanese site
Not at full price. It's not worth full price. It's worth a try, I guess? Some people managed to enjoy it despite its mountain of fun-killing flaws.
I skipped Xillia 2 and Zesteria, so I'll be ready for Berserk in 2017
You didn't really miss much besides disappointment. Oh, I guess Xillia 2's battle system is an improvement over Xillia's. Unfortunately, Ludger sucks up 90% of the benefits like the attention sponge he is, leaving you wondering why the other characters are even there.
Vesperia this. Vesperia that. Amusingly enough, I believe Hideo Baba took over as series producer after Vesperia.
It was pointless innovation for the sake of innovation. It added nothing of value to the Tales battle system. Tales battle is about having space to maneuver, dodge, and pull off combos. Seamless battles really took away from that. The benefits were minimal compared to the problems seamless battles introduced.
To avoid crap like this:
Dungeons looked horrible in ToZ because they had to be designed to accommodate seamless battles. Huge, empty rooms. Huge corridors. And it ended up with battles in confined spaces. That is terrible in a Tales game.
Good riddance to seamless battles.
If that's indeed the case they are reeeaaaly slow at repositioning the camera there then. =D
He was already brand manager by the time of Vesperia, probably got subsequently promoted to producer level.
GoldCrusader
Member
Bring on more Tales of! I love this series so much!
Trigonometrize.
Member
It's not that far away from Zestiria at all though.
On-field battles are dead, this just gave me hope for real dungeons.
I already plat-ed Zestiria, so ready for this.
That's still much slower than what Graces managed to do on the worst system last gen. And if the duration is the same as in Zestiria the transition (which looks like a bad Eternia copy) does a much worse job at masking it.
The Zestiria equipment system isn't coming back. They've never used an equipment system twice to my knowledge.
The battles look like they're similar to Zestiria in their use of the exploration field as the battlefield, but the transition looks a little different.
Menu design is fantastic, looks like there's enough room for two more party members as well?
The battles look like they're similar to Zestiria in their use of the exploration field as the battlefield, but the transition looks a little different.
Oh yea I really love the menu design
Menu design is fantastic, looks like there's enough room for two more party members as well?
MulderYuffie
Member
more tales PC goodness excited.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Anyone know where I can find a mirror of that offscreen gameplay? The video became private pretty quick it seems. I'm hoping that the gameplay is as quick and snappy as that GIF suggests and this game capitalizes on what they were trying to do with Zestiria by removing what didn't work (seemless battles, super quick transition to fighting arena is better it seems) and expanding upon what did. Hopefully this game can match up to Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia and deliver a great experience.
Those three and Xillia are the only I've finished, and while I think Xillia actually did a relatively good job with it's story, characters and gameplay (battles and character progression were great, not every JRPG has such good skill customization), the game fell flat mostly because of it's somewhat limited scope and linear hallway worlds. Hearts R is also pretty good, but I find the DS origins too apparent in the world lacking a lot of grandeur and dungeons being fairly eh. Skipped on Zestiria (at least
I'm interested to see more about the new battles system that sounds like a huge departure from the norm. I hope the big environments taking too long to travel through and being too empty in Zestiria is addressed here with some kind of quicker traversal method. Mounts maybe? I'm reminded of the cover of Phantasia with Cress and Mint on that horse, or maybe it's a pegasus? I don't know, it can't be an airship like in some past games because I think they just can't pull of that feat without a traditional worldmap traversal method.
This news and Persona 5's announcement of an announcement (yeah those generally suck but it is P5) have me feeling pretty good today! Can't wait to hear more for both games and I hope import impressions in August are more positive than Zestiria's. Disappointed a bit that Star Ocean 5 is apparently short on scope, even if it is a good game besides that, so I hope Berseria can live up to the Tales of name.
Those three and Xillia are the only I've finished, and while I think Xillia actually did a relatively good job with it's story, characters and gameplay (battles and character progression were great, not every JRPG has such good skill customization), the game fell flat mostly because of it's somewhat limited scope and linear hallway worlds. Hearts R is also pretty good, but I find the DS origins too apparent in the world lacking a lot of grandeur and dungeons being fairly eh. Skipped on Zestiria (at least
I'm interested to see more about the new battles system that sounds like a huge departure from the norm. I hope the big environments taking too long to travel through and being too empty in Zestiria is addressed here with some kind of quicker traversal method. Mounts maybe? I'm reminded of the cover of Phantasia with Cress and Mint on that horse, or maybe it's a pegasus? I don't know, it can't be an airship like in some past games because I think they just can't pull of that feat without a traditional worldmap traversal method.
This news and Persona 5's announcement of an announcement (yeah those generally suck but it is P5) have me feeling pretty good today! Can't wait to hear more for both games and I hope import impressions in August are more positive than Zestiria's. Disappointed a bit that Star Ocean 5 is apparently short on scope, even if it is a good game besides that, so I hope Berseria can live up to the Tales of name.
We warned you Kayos. We warned you. Now we just have to figure out what you're going to end up wearing.
Maybe I'll just be nice and say you've got to carry a Velvet avatar.