My impression from the leaked gameplay video is that the same map is used but the battle circle is moved away to some place where it doesn't clash with any obstructions. If that's the case dungeons could again have narrow hallways as long as there's also some room in the map that can fit the battle circle.
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Tales of Berseria launching early 2017 in the West (PS4/PC)
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Pancake Mix
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Really, really liking the vibe this game has, somewhat bipolar but in a good way. The art style really shines through, and the cast seems a lot rougher around the edges and not simply "let's save the world."
Edit: Tales of Berseria - OFF SCREEN GAMEPLAY (RPG TOUR 2016) <--- There's new town footage here that got overlooked.
Edit: Tales of Berseria - OFF SCREEN GAMEPLAY (RPG TOUR 2016) <--- There's new town footage here that got overlooked.
All the screenshots were sent to the press and ordered in different directories, all the dark ones (including those in your post) were in one directory named "beginning of the game".
And this one below was in one named "Artorius"
There also was a small booklet with the following pages
I like the way they presented Yasuhiro Fukaya, instead of saying the usual "well he's the producer and hum yeah creator of the Tales series doing everything and all !"
That's pretty great. Also the last place where I'd expect a quote from late Gunpei Yokoi to appear, so thumbs up to Fukaya for that.
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Wow, thanks for the info, that's good stuff!
http://gematsu.com/2016/05/tales-of...on-island-pirate-ship-introduces-teresa-oscar
Some more infos and 2 new characters
Some more infos and 2 new characters
I found his comments really interesting and assertive. I hope the developers go all the way with those ideas.
I'm really liking how the battles look, I wonder if they can top Graces battle system. I can't wait to play this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqyXKztX3i4
Nothing really new but I love the new skit style in this game
Since I did some translations about the game's hiougi and skill system, might as well post them here
You can use hiougi but consuming blast gauge. Not only it deals damages to the enemies, but it also increases your numbers of soul. Each character has multiple hiougi but the conditions to use them are different but the common condition is "having 3 BG or more then hold L2 during a combo"
And the skill part. I'm sure many of you're interested. You can gain skill by equipping equipment that has skills with them. Also from titles that you can get by completing certain conditions. By equipping them for a number battles, you can master the skills and gain them permanently without equipping the equipment again.
Skills from equipment:
*Master skill: You can gain these by equipping equipment and gain them permanently if you mastered them. Also, if you still using the same equipment after mastered it, the effects are combined (like x2)
*Upgrade bonus: You can gain these bonuses by upgrading the equipment. Some will be available after you upgraded an equipment high enough
*Random skill: This one is random for every equipment you found.
Nothing really new but I love the new skit style in this game
Since I did some translations about the game's hiougi and skill system, might as well post them here
You can use hiougi but consuming blast gauge. Not only it deals damages to the enemies, but it also increases your numbers of soul. Each character has multiple hiougi but the conditions to use them are different but the common condition is "having 3 BG or more then hold L2 during a combo"
And the skill part. I'm sure many of you're interested. You can gain skill by equipping equipment that has skills with them. Also from titles that you can get by completing certain conditions. By equipping them for a number battles, you can master the skills and gain them permanently without equipping the equipment again.
Skills from equipment:
*Master skill: You can gain these by equipping equipment and gain them permanently if you mastered them. Also, if you still using the same equipment after mastered it, the effects are combined (like x2)
*Upgrade bonus: You can gain these bonuses by upgrading the equipment. Some will be available after you upgraded an equipment high enough
*Random skill: This one is random for every equipment you found.
ShinNatsume
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New equipment sounds way better than the one from tales of zestiria. Reminds me kinda of FF9 ability system.
Baloonatic
Member
I'm about 15 hours into Zestiria at the moment and am really enjoying it. Kind of waiting for it to take a nosedive because a lot of people seem pretty down on it. New skill system in Berseria is definitely welcome though, my least favourite part of Zestiria by far.
Rising_Hei
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I don't think tales of will try to appeal nintendo homeconsole fans ever again, they've lost too much time trying to do this in the past and it didn't work out.
They don't even try to appeal XB1 which has a much more healthy ecosystem than the Wii U, i don't see them trying to do anything with nintendo. I could be wrong, tho.
RainbowIslands
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Agreed. They tried the "let's release a mothership title on each console" thing in the 360/wii/ps3 generation and realize their fan base is mostly on PlayStation. Just look at their stronger support on vita vs 3ds, and their ps3 output.
(I hope NX won't fail and we'll get a tales game on it or something. But it's BanNam we're talking about; sales/money goes first.)
Yes; same system they used in Vesperia.
The skits, while still pretty basic, are slowly evolving. Despite being stills, the whole thing felt way more animated than usual. Nice.
Also I'm glad Vesperia's skill system is back. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Hype for this game is slowly rising.
WickedLaharl
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To avoid crap like this:
Dungeons looked horrible in ToZ because they had to be designed to accommodate seamless battles. Huge, empty rooms. Huge corridors. And it ended up with battles in confined spaces. That is terrible in a Tales game.
Good riddance to seamless battles.
Agreed. I won't miss the seamless battles at all.
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Vesperia's ability system was rock solid, this is good news.
Really liking how animated the skits are in this game too.
There are new Famitsu scans out in the wild, FYI. Can't link to them I believe.
The frame rate is doubled to 60 on PS4 compared to Zestiria which will help it look smoother.
Anyways, they designed the game to run on PS3, they're using the base Xillia (or is it Symphonia) engine, and the budget for these games isn't huge. Think of it this way, it looks a lot better on console and PC than it would look on 3DS, Vita, or mobile...
Really liking how animated the skits are in this game too.
There are new Famitsu scans out in the wild, FYI. Can't link to them I believe.
The frame rate is doubled to 60 on PS4 compared to Zestiria which will help it look smoother.
Anyways, they designed the game to run on PS3, they're using the base Xillia (or is it Symphonia) engine, and the budget for these games isn't huge. Think of it this way, it looks a lot better on console and PC than it would look on 3DS, Vita, or mobile...
No, Zestiria used a new engine and Berseria most likely has the same.
Would be perfect for endgame stuff T_T
^this.
Yeah the new skit system seems pretty interesting. I mean it still has a ways it could go, but that makes them a whole lot more eventful, as you can actually see movements/reactions a lot better.
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Nope.
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/04/25/tales-berseria-gets-off-screen-footage-words-producer/
And that information comes from this interview with the director: https://youtu.be/Q4P0EPm-m2M?t=8m19s I gave the timestamp too. They customize their special engine that they only use for the Tales series for each instalment, and they've technically been using the same engine since Xillia according to the director himself.
Oh this game is going to be good, Vesperia good. You'll see.
ShadowSoldier89
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so new information on a tales game and I read it all as good news. the fuck universe did I walk into
This is really interesting. So if they have their engine running on current gen consoles and PC, they could (with some programming effort) get their older games running on current gen consoles and PC, without having to change the needed toolset.
Regarding engine there are a lot of people conflating different aspects of the game into this one term. Fisico is referring to the seamless transition aspect that was marketed as a new engine prior to Zestiria's release. The part Fukaya is referring to in the links EleventhHourSuperpower posted are about the graphics engine Tales uses since Xillia. And the PC ports of Zestiria and Symphonia showed surprisingly big similarities in how frame rendering and pacing are handled, surprising since the former was a good port by an European studio while the latter was a hilariously bad port by an American studio. This points to the similarities being in the original games, with the question left being whether Symphonia had it from the start or if only the PS3 port moved it to the Xillia (or whatever) engine causing the similarities.
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Just an FYI, Bamco is updating the Memo page with screenshots almost every day now.
http://talesofberseria.tales-ch.jp/memo/?m=20160512
http://talesofberseria.tales-ch.jp/memo/?m=20160512
Don't jinx it dammit.
A producer is not a director and a new engine doesn't automatically mean better graphics (if the assets are bad then they are bad) even if that's, fortunately, almost always the case.
Also Yasuhiro Fukuya was the QA manager at Bandai-Namco until 2013, that is to say he fully joined the Tales development staff only during the development of Tales of Zestiria, so I kinda expect Hideo Baba who was more involved and there for a longer time to have a better opinion on that matter, see below
New engine used for Zestiria
Anyway that's only arguing on semantics and probably is more PR stuff than anything else, point being that they had to redo a lot of stuff to the point that they somehow called the engine for Zestiria as "new".
And in the first place I was replying because you somehow implied (intentionally or not) that it was maybe the same engine as a 12 years old game which was quite a stretch.
I wasn't aware of all of that, thanks.
It wouldn't surprise me if Tri-Crescendo was given the base PS2 game and part of the Xillia engine and were asked to just make the damn thing work.
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Anyways,
http://blog.talesofgame.com/en/mystic-arte-new-characters-and-more-for-berseria/
Oscar and Teresa are definitely not playable, and Teresa is the one taking advantage of Laphicet's powers. Calls him "Number two."
http://blog.talesofgame.com/en/mystic-arte-new-characters-and-more-for-berseria/
Oscar and Teresa are definitely not playable, and Teresa is the one taking advantage of Laphicet's powers. Calls him "Number two."
A ways to go? How animated do you want them to be (when taking into account budget)?
MrSaturn99
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What's weird is that I'll take every opportunity to shit on Zestiria yet I hardly ever paid attention to the skill system. Maybe it was because the battle system in itself was really dull...?
That this is a prequel already leaves a bad taste in my mouth, regardless of any potential iimprovements. Maybe I'll pick up a used copy down the road.
That this is a prequel already leaves a bad taste in my mouth, regardless of any potential iimprovements. Maybe I'll pick up a used copy down the road.
ShinNatsume
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Tons of new screenshots including Oscar, Teresa, Dyle, mystic artes, and equipment skills.
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What I gleamed from them:
Velvet and Rokurou meeting their navigator from the first trailer it looks like.
And here he is in charge of steering.
Must be a minor character.
Must be lizard man is more like it.
BroodShadow
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Do we know if this has dual audio or not? I know namco is kind all over the place with that kind of thing.
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A lizard helming a pirate ship.
Everything I ever wanted from a game.
Yes, was announced some month ago
Augemitbutter
Member
it's too good.
GasProblem
Member
Costume DLC revealed in the Weekly Jump. Pirate, Summer and Japanese themed. I guess thats why they made Velvets default costume so ridiculous 
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Ill probably buy one of them.
And theres a card game! I enjoyed Gwent. Wonder how this will play.
.Ill probably buy one of them.
And theres a card game! I enjoyed Gwent. Wonder how this will play.
Drilbit777
Member
So that means its getting a dub for sure? Thats all I need to know lol
Alex_Mexico
Member
So PS3 version got scrapped?