Azure Dream
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So it's a mini-sniper rifle. Oh god, they've created Sniper Spies. :lol
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Team Fortress 2 Sniper Update Info, Pyro Megaton
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RocketDarkness
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:lol :lol :lolThe Blog said:
Diablohead
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I always felt the default spy gun could use a litle more kick, despite it shooting out sentrys with ease already 
Better accuracy is a good enough reason to use that gun for me.
Better accuracy is a good enough reason to use that gun for me.
Baloonatic
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I thought that the standard revolver was already too powerful D:
Oh well. Is there one more Sniper item to go?
Oh well. Is there one more Sniper item to go?
Okay, RAAAAAGE. Yet another awesome spy upgrade to make them more overpowered. I'm expecting something exceptionally crappy for the sniper. :'( Any guesses? Maybe a knife that doesn't do crits, but does +5 damage against pyros? Perhaps a hat that takes 5% damage off of headshots?
And yes, the spy pistol is already quite powerful. I've died in 2-3 shots from a spy while I was toasting him as a pyro before. He died right afterwards, but it was close...
And yes, the spy pistol is already quite powerful. I've died in 2-3 shots from a spy while I was toasting him as a pyro before. He died right afterwards, but it was close...
Diablohead
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The new gun sounds like it fires extremely slow so up close it may not work very well.
RocketDarkness
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What a nice way to get around the Razorback, eh Blizzard?
dasupremeone
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freaking awesome update
Alaskanbullworm
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I wonder if that's Scouts Mom on the gun. Probably some random woman though.
RocketDarkness
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I suck so bad that I won't have this weapon for a loooong time. But I'll practice, and with time, I'll master the Spy so that I can torment you for all eternity.Blizzard said:
Or perhaps I'll just countersnipe you with it. Y'know, for the irony.
The worst part is, this and that watch basically make the Commando class from Battlefield Heroes. While I love playing that class in that game, I guess I didn't want the spy to become that...or else I'll just have to start playing nothing but spy.
Imagine it -- you run out somewhere, stand still so you have permanent invisibility, and then headshot someone halfway across the map (or however long the range is). Then you either instantly recloak for more permanent invisibility, depending on how the watch works, or you disguise/cloak/run away, to camp somewhere else. The person who shot you might not even get to see where you're going if you can recloak.
Imagine it -- you run out somewhere, stand still so you have permanent invisibility, and then headshot someone halfway across the map (or however long the range is). Then you either instantly recloak for more permanent invisibility, depending on how the watch works, or you disguise/cloak/run away, to camp somewhere else. The person who shot you might not even get to see where you're going if you can recloak.
Azure Dream
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Blizzard said:
Exactly. Presuming that will work, they've taken the issue they've talked about trying to fix with the Sniper, and just given it to the Spy doubly. The damage will probably be a little lower, and I doubt Spies will get headshot crits, but they will get random normal crits with this gun, nothing says they won't.
Edit: Nah, they have to have thought it out better than that. The reload time between shots will probably be something equivalent to three mid-timed Sniper shots or something ridiculous. Like you know a Spy has one shot, then two or three seconds of vunerability.
PillowKnight
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wat?Hazaro said:
Also, the idea of a spy out sniping a sniper is ridiculous. As in, it's not going to happen.
Ikuu said:
Yes, but at least I admit it.
The funny thing was, all the spy fans were whining when they announced the shield -- a one-use shield that slows down an already slow sniper, and doesn't even kill the spy. And then the spy got lots of upgrades, so there's suddenly no more whining about the sniper. :lol*edit* If the spy doesn't do much damage, then yeah, it won't happen. If the spy can do a decent amount of damage, then there's nothing stopping a spy from simply standing in some unfrequented spot and waiting for a sniper to be in range.
At any rate, Valve is usually pretty good about patching eventually. They patched the scout ball from last time.
Guys, you seem to forget something : The Ambassador, unlike the Sniper Rifle, has no scope, and will probably have a cooldown longer than the charging of a Sniper Rifle shot, meaning all the fighting will happen at mid-range, and will make the Spy extremely weak if he misses his shot. The general principle is sound, it will all be a matter of making the right adjustments.
Azure Dream
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FatBaby said:
Wait, are you talking about the explosives that don't one-hit most of the time, and cause splash damage that could kill the shooter before the target, especially at close ranges?
Spiritreaver
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Pretty awesome, too bad it has no use with me considering I can't aim for shit. 
undrtakr900
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Engies be damn, I am going to harass them from across the map nowTiamatsword22 said:
ElNarez said:
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-- what's with the incredible amount of WIN they're providing us with lately ?? Seriously, stop that shit now it's too much for my heart D:
And look a tonight's update :
:lol :lol
Can you actually believe all of this delirium getting that far when it was only started because of a stupid leak ? Laughing my ass off.
I just started to pick up playing spy this week and have gotten pretty good at it. I must say that the ambassador looks a little too powerful - depending on how long the cool-down is. But we know Valve, if it's OP it'll get the nerf soon enough. Just like the Backburner. I have a feeling this and the 2 watches will be the only upgrades for the spy, while the sniper should get 1 more.
Suburban Cowboy
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spy sounds like the first class since medic that Ill consistently use 2 or more of its new weapons with.
Since this is such an active thread, are any Circle-X regulars getting high pings on the server. I've been sitting at 100-110 lately. I'm beginning to wonder if my internet connection isn't total garbage and this is the cause. It's usually around 50-60.
That and the last time I played L4D is was totally unsatisfactory despite having a ping of like 78. My swipes as a hunter and tank were lag-a-licious and made them borderline useless.
Despite playing the entire 5 maps on versus, I never once even heard a swipe sound. They were so laggy my swipes were silent. It was surreal. So I'm wondering if Comcast has taken service to a shitty new low.
That and the last time I played L4D is was totally unsatisfactory despite having a ping of like 78. My swipes as a hunter and tank were lag-a-licious and made them borderline useless.
Despite playing the entire 5 maps on versus, I never once even heard a swipe sound. They were so laggy my swipes were silent. It was surreal. So I'm wondering if Comcast has taken service to a shitty new low.
GotchaForce
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PLEASE let the final Sniper update be Jarate!
The Ambassador will be perfect for hiding in a corner, taking a look at enemy health numbers, and picking off the weak ones. In turn, your actual combat capabilities are going to drop like a rock, so don't get caught.
Much more interesting than the point-blank headshot crits from behind rumor silliness that's been floating around since the weekend, anyway.
Much more interesting than the point-blank headshot crits from behind rumor silliness that's been floating around since the weekend, anyway.
proposition
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So what's the third Sniper item?
Visualante
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Spoon.proposition said:
benjipwns
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I've been getting random high pings there and on other servers I usually visit. I think people earlier in the thread were talking about random lag spikes recently.1-D_FTW said:
The tubes probably need some Drano. (Or it have might have been something in the last server update. Or something on our ISP's. I'm on Charter btw.)
dasupremeone
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the third sniper weapon is probably a machine gun that crits more often because the bullets are dipped in some aussie animal type venom...
Guled said:
We can only hope it's the only one, since the spy now has an instant kill knife AND the most powerful handgun in the game.
Some people probably wanted a boomerang for the sniper, but I'm not sure how to make that overpowered. =(
Also, for the engineer update, I want a rapidfire sniper sentry, so people quit like 50 feet away but totally out of range. =(
dasupremeone
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engie update is totally getting a fire sentry to detect spies
MrPing1000
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I presume by the description that the ambassador can headshot crit like the sniper rifle.
The standard revolver is already extremely accurate at range, can't see it being much more accurate just more powerful.
The standard revolver is already extremely accurate at range, can't see it being much more accurate just more powerful.
Suburban Cowboy
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Half my kills I get with my shotgun. No wind up and I can run with it. In fact, when going for a super push (looking for most penetration possible), Ill use just my shotgun while ubered. Not to mention, you never know when you will run out of ammo with the minigun.ahoyhoy said:
Also, If you are crossing an area watched by snipers (2fort bridge) and enemies are running past, you dont want to slow down to wind up your weapon.
There is always a health pack somewhere in a TF2 map. Those health packs are always next to ammo, which Ill often be seeking out anyways.
PataHikari
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I love Valve even more now.