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Tearaway - The Modern Age Mario 64

Skyzard said:
I'm missing one gif which actually shows what the level is like for those that don't click on the video.

He compares to Mario because Mario 64 had a big impact on gamers in how they felt playing the game. A lot of that wonder is lost now that we've gotten so used to Mario and 3D in general.
Tearaway goes out to recapture that worldly feel. I know a lot of the early footage looked linear, we didn't even know if he could even jump. It seemed like an introduction level, which seeing this video, shows it clearly was - yet many were skeptic. For kids, a lot of this connectivity will be just like how we felt playing mario 64. Sure the technology exists elsewhere (like 3D games on PC back then) ... but look at what they've made!

Please do watch it if you haven't yet and are uneasy.
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The problem is the Mario 64 comparison is not valid at all. Mario 64 was very influential and had a huge impact. That is Mario 64's lasting legacy far more so than its quality as a game. Tearaway can't do that. It won't be a big game since Vita is not a popular system, especially with kids. Which blunts its potential influence quite harshly.

That description of a kid getting Tearaway and being blown away? It won't happen. What kid owns a Vita? What kid even wants a Vita? This isn't like Nintendo 64 and Mario 64 at all. I look forward to Vita but it's a niche game on a niche platform primarily only going to be bought by hardcore gamers. Which is fine, but the idea of it being some kind of Mario 64 is out of the question.
 
Skyzard said:
To me, people who are actually mad about the title have lost their way somewhat and are refusing to see what's in front of them. Also some people are just bad at making connections until they see for themselves, a few times.

Just so happens a lot of passionate fans are here so pack mentality and all :P



That's what they've shown the most of but if you watch the gameplay video in OP (quite new) you can tell there is more to it. Even remembering back to the tutorial bit with the escape and baiting monsters - think of how it would be incorporated into later levels (once unlocked jumping etc).
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The problem is that you haven't even played Tearaway. This thread would've MAYBE been appropriate to make a couple of months after its release, when you, you know, have actually played the title, but even then it would be far fetched. No one outside of the hardcore Vita base has a clue of what Tearaway even is. It's going to bomb worse than you can ever imagine.
 
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why people make fun of us Vita fans.

Game looks great, won't get at launch though. Been kinda busy and Bravely Default is coming up.
 
Dat title.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.


I'm never going to play Tearaway, because I want a VitaTV, and I really don't think I can justify buying a Vita for one game, but it does look unbelievable, and MM produce the most charming games imaginable.
 
Jesus that title is terrible.

Tearaway does look like a very solid game, though.

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Skyzard said:
To me, people who are actually mad about the title have lost their way somewhat and are refusing to see what's in front of them. Also some people are just bad at making connections until they see for themselves, a few times.

Just so happens a lot of passionate fans are here so pack mentality and all :P
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Ahahaha.
 
Skyzard said:
To me, people who are actually mad about the title have lost their way somewhat and are refusing to see what's in front of them. Also some people are just bad at making connections until they see for themselves, a few times.

Just so happens a lot of passionate fans are here so pack mentality and all :P
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Holy shit, are you actually serious about this? :o
 
If anything Mario fans should be ecstatic that Mario is being held to such an esteemed that right now, in year 2013, a game from its line that's coming from 1996-1997 is still being used as a benchmark comparison.

That's a very big praise in just how esteemed Mario is, in my opinion :P

SmokyDave said:
Okay, you've convinced me. How do we stop this menace?!

(It's fine. Game of the Generation™ Mario 3D World will set that renegade back on the straight and narrow!).
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...you just can't resist that temptation, can you :/
 
Since when is it a crime to by hyped for a game on GAF and make a thread about it?
People are jumping on this thread as if the title was "Mario 64 isn't as good as you remember it - Vita to save the day with fantastic new platformer: Tearaway!"
 
OP talks mostly about visuals. That's not what made Mario 64 so amazing and influential at the time. It was the completely new way of control, the freedom of perfectly polished 3D platforming, the novelty of the analog stick, the whole package was a completely new experience in gaming.

This game also isn't even out, so he probably hasn't even played it yet, which should be the main point of a game...

What a terrible, hyperbolic thread title.
 
SmokyDave said:
(It's fine. Game of the Generation™ Mario 3D World will set that renegade back on the straight and narrow!).
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You're better than this - don't be so sensitive

Mario 3D World looks good, Tearaway looks good and SM64 is still a great game (I enjoy watching siglemic playing that game like a true god and how he exposes the depth of the polished core mechanics)

The thing that should bother many Vita fans is that the most important title of the system is able to stand on its own due its fantastic presentation and 3D platforming yet OP decided to shed light on a already proven title (yeah, I read the OP, but come on, this thread's outcome was totally predictable with the thread title and OP's history)
 
Skyzard said:
To me, people who are actually mad about the title have lost their way somewhat and are refusing to see what's in front of them. Also some people are just bad at making connections until they see for themselves, a few times.
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About refusing to see what's in front of them...

Skyzard said:
Seems like Vita overtaking 3DS weekly sales eventually isn't out of the question, even in Japan.
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Anyway, the game looks good on it's own, you didn't really need to bring Mario into the mix. But you knew full well that you were doing eh.
 
When looking at Tearaway, Mario 64 never once crossed my mind. I just couldn't put it that high up the pedestal, since Tearaway looks decent at best from all footage and impressions I've seen. Doesn't out Nintendo's Nintendo here either, IMO.
 
Mikeside said:
Since when is it a crime to by hyped for a game on GAF and make a thread about it?
People are jumping on this thread as if the title was "Mario 64 isn't as good as you remember it - Vita to save the day with fantastic new platformer: Tearaway!"
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The problem isn't that, the problem is that OP is saying : "Remember how Mario 64 was the best game ever, there's a game that could be tangentially related to it being released soon".
To which it's easy to say : "Well yeah, Mario 64 was great I'm gonna play that and ignore your Canada dry version".
Seriously it's a horrible way to promote a game.
Worse than the "Halo killer" marketing.
 
  • Thread title is asking for bashing
  • OP didn't play the final game
  • Mario 64 is one of the most iconic game of all time

Tearaway looks like an inventive, cute and well done game but it takes more than being a good game to reach the level of Mario 64

I've pre-ordered Tearaway. I'll enjoy it for sure and new games are always welcome but come on OP... be smart and don't use a thread title like this at first and wait till you've played a game before comparing it to games like Mario 64.

If you want to make Tearaway some publicity you should ask for making the OT and make it good so people buy this game !
 
Skyzard said:
^ that was in reply to "I wonder who is going to take the bait." The first stalker quote I still stand by.



Is this so far-fetched to you:



... if so, take a step back. Watch some M64...watch some more Tearaway.
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WATCH? For christ sake, play the game before you make a thread like this.
 
Skyzard said:
I did sneakily leave that out, hopefully it's decent.
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The music is FANTASTIC... I love the music. I asked Media Molecule, and they told me they made the music themselves.. the music that play when you travel up the mountain at the end of the preview version, is GOD like.. but that is all my opinion..
 
Mael said:
The problem isn't that, the problem is that OP is saying : "Remember how Mario 64 was the best game ever, there's a game that could be tangentially related to it being released soon".
To which it's easy to say : "Well yeah, Mario 64 was great I'm gonna play that and ignore your Canada dry version".
Seriously it's a horrible way to promote a game.
Worse than the "Halo killer" marketing.
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So you're saying the thread is horrible if it's here to market the game.
Fine, except it's just a thread on GAF, not a marketing campaign.

Anyway, he's saying "Remember how you felt about Mario 64 when it release? This is the game released in 2013 that could have that same effect for the kids of today!"

And he's right - it's a solid platformer with a cool, gorgeous world you can interact with & from the little that I played, it's a hell of a lot of fun. Do we really have to attach such huge meaning to it and turn it into "THIS GAME WILL NEVER BE AS AMAZING AS THE GREAT MARIO 64!"

That's absolutely not the point. The point is purely that it's something kids playing it will (in the OP's opinion) get really sucked into & find to be an amazing experience, much like when our generation played Mario 64 for the first time.
 
Can someone that has had a hands on clarify something for me? In Totilo's preview he says:

You use the Vita’s twin sticks to make Iota walk, jump and roll through his construction-paper world.
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Is the right stick used for some controls, rather than the camera? I'd assumed it would be camera control.
 
Mikeside, thanks as well. Didn't explain myself very well it seems.

Frillen said:
WATCH? For christ sake, play the game before you make a thread like this.
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Come on dude, you can tell a lot by watching.

Hanmik said:
The music is FANTASTIC... I love the music. I asked Media Molecule, and they told me they made the music themselves.. the music that play when you travel up the mountain at the end of the preview version, is GOD like.. but that is all my opinion..
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Excellent, will sneak it back into OP, thank you and EVEN MORE EXCITED!
 
SmokyDave said:
Can someone that has had a hands on clarify something for me? In Totilo's preview he says:



Is the right stick used for some controls, rather than the camera? I'd assumed it would be camera control.
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Nah, right stick is camera. Controls are exactly as you'd expect.
 
Do Sony fans have some sort of Nintendo-trauma? From what I've played of the preview version Tearaway looks to be a very competent game (might be great, might not be, I need more time with it still), but it actually is nothing like Mario 64. It seems to focus a lot on gimmicks like changing appearance of the character, fotos of the player, cutting a crown out of a sheet of paper and so on. It also is quite linear. I actually think Mario 64 and Tearaway are mechanically about as different as they can be, from what I've played, I'd barely call Tearaway a Jump & Run (which is what I would call Mario 64; the German name for platformer, but I think it is a bit more narrowed down to what I want to say. Tearaway can definitely be called a platformer, a Jump & Run - so for not).
 
Mikeside said:
The point is purely that it's something kids playing it will (in the OP's opinion) get really sucked into & find to be an amazing experience, much like when our generation played Mario 64 for the first time.
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Ok but without having played the game how such a thing can be said?
Saying that the game seems to have a Mario 64 vibe is ok, saying that it may feel the same somehow because there is some great new features and good use of the Vita specific controls is ok too but that's it.

Thread title and OP are too categorical and will lead only to polemic and not discussion.

Now we get the point and we can stop here I assume. Discussion will be again interesting when we'll have actually played the game so see you in OT.
 
Next step.
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Quick and Dirty
 
I actually find the title to be a detriment to Tearaway. Let the game stand out on its own merits. From what I've seen, its doing just that. No need to compare it against Mario.
 
MoogleWizard said:
OP talks mostly about visuals. That's not what made Mario 64 so amazing and influential at the time. It was the completely new way of control, the freedom of perfectly polished 3D platforming, the novelty of the analog stick, the whole package was a completely new experience in gaming.
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This was my first thought too. Mario 64 is remembered the way it is for very different reasons.
 
Tearaway is cool and all but doesn't have the sense of freedom Mario 64 had.
First of all, the main character is way slower and less agile. There will be less joy just moving the character around. It also looks more linear. So I disagree, a more appropriate comparison would be playing Phantom Hourglass for the first time for me, I loved the touchscreen controls and the touch based puzzles.
 
Mikeside said:
So you're saying the thread is horrible if it's here to market the game.
Fine, except it's just a thread on GAF, not a marketing campaign.
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A marketing campaign is a tool to promote a game, this thread serves the same purpose.
Whether you're willing to acknowledge it or not is your problem.

Mikeside said:
Anyway, he's saying "Remember how you felt about Mario 64 when it release? This is the game released in 2013 that could have that same effect for the kids of today!"
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I wasn't a kid when Mario 64 was released and it blew me away (for way more reasons than just gfx btw).

Mikeside said:
And he's right - it's a solid platformer with a cool, gorgeous world you can interact with & from the little that I played, it's a hell of a lot of fun. Do we really have to attach such huge meaning to it and turn it into "THIS GAME WILL NEVER BE AS AMAZING AS THE GREAT MARIO 64!"

That's absolutely not the point. The point is purely that it's something kids playing it will (in the OP's opinion) get really sucked into & find to be an amazing experience, much like when our generation played Mario 64 for the first time.
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So you're saying only kids will like this?
I'm really better off playing Mario 64 again then...
 
Just when I thought Mario 64 was amazing because of its gameplay...
Also, I really dont like the look of Tearaway. LBP was already very questionnable in this aspect.
 
BlackJace said:
I actually find the title to be a detriment to Tearaway. Let the game stand out on its own merits. From what I've seen, its doing just that. No need to compare it against Mario.
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Yep, no need to have a complex plus Mario is not a gold standard for everyone. I never liked any Mario except Mario Kart and I tried them plenty.
 
Mael said:
A marketing campaign is a tool to promote a game, this thread serves the same purpose.
Whether you're willing to acknowledge it or not is your problem.
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Except it really isn't my problem - I'm not one of those getting incredibly salty all up in here.



Mael said:
I wasn't a kid when Mario 64 was released and it blew me away (for way more reasons than just gfx btw).
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I've absolutely no idea what your point is here. Nobody is saying this game is going to replace Mario 64 and we'll all look back and laugh "haha, remember when we all thought Mario 64 was the thing? ahhahah, we were such fools before Tearaway!"


Mael said:
So you're saying only kids will like this?
I'm really better off playing Mario 64 again then...
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Again, I think you're purposely completely missing my point here & I'm not going to get dragged into some ridiculous argument about the validity of a game just because somebody compared it to Mario 64.
 
Mikeside said:
Except it really isn't my problem - I'm not one of those getting incredibly salty all up in here.
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It's not my problem either, this thread is there to promote the game.
It's doing so in the worst possible way too.

Mikeside said:
I've absolutely no idea what your point is here. Nobody is saying this game is going to replace Mario 64 and we'll all look back and laugh "haha, remember when we all thought Mario 64 was the thing? ahhahah, we were such fools before Tearaway!"
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No the game is saying that since you found Mario 64 so good, come try this new game that is tangentially related to it.
To which the usual answer is : well I'll play the real thing, thank you.


Mikeside said:
Again, I think you're purposely completely missing my point here & I'm not going to get dragged into some ridiculous argument about the validity of a game just because somebody compared it to Mario 64.
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Kids don't have Vita, they're currently too busy with ipads or pokemon.
Looking at the thread, people aren't interested in this game in the same way as stuffs aimed at kids.
They want it for themselves.
So why the talk about kids being blown away, kids won't care anyway.
 
It's a real shame that the thread title just murdered any chance of discussion. Perhaps Skyzard should've made his intent clearer.

Exterminieren said:
All that salt will clog your arteries, you know.
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Hmm. I think that cheeky quip might be being misread somewhat. I assure you my sodium levels are quite fine.
 
The title is really, really bad.

The OP is all right though. Nothing wrong at all. The game looks interesting. We need to see if the gameplay will be good though. Mario 64 gameplay was/is simply amazing.
 
I'm definitely getting it, but not day one, already too much games >.<
Is a demo coming for this game?

Good job OP, instead of making me interested in the game you're talking about you're making me want to play Mario 64 again.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Protip : if you can't prop up a game without namedropping the competition, you're making your game look like an also ran, erzats and you're telling people to play the competition instead.
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Yes, this is also true.
 
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