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Ted Price: PS3 is 'Whipping Boy' for Press
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WickedLaharl
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g35twinturbo said:
What a crock of shit.
I think it's far more important that the press dig up old PS2 adverts from India than it is that they tackle Microsoft over the fact that every Xbox 360 leaves the factory with insufficient cooling and is a ticking timebomb that costs consumers an obligatory $50 warranty extension and $100+ repair fees once that warranty expires.
I mean, what affects me more as a consumer? A goat carcass at a party that I wasn't even at or a 1 month+ wait for a doomed-to-break-again refurb to come back from Microsoft's UK repair people?
That poor goat.
I think it's far more important that the press dig up old PS2 adverts from India than it is that they tackle Microsoft over the fact that every Xbox 360 leaves the factory with insufficient cooling and is a ticking timebomb that costs consumers an obligatory $50 warranty extension and $100+ repair fees once that warranty expires.
I mean, what affects me more as a consumer? A goat carcass at a party that I wasn't even at or a 1 month+ wait for a doomed-to-break-again refurb to come back from Microsoft's UK repair people?
That poor goat.
jamesb23 said:
... No, dude.
It's NOT selling well. Look at the Japanese charts. PS2 was NOT selling this low. And also, you can easily find it. PS3 has been widely available since January. People either a) don't want it, or b) the price is too high.
I'm just pointing out that he's not being honest. It isn't selling well.
So I agree with Ted to a degree, as the PS3 has taken some more heat than it should have.
At the same time, the system is 600 bucks and that price has pissed off alot of people who actually want one but can't afford one. Also, developers are still struggling with CELL, and if the football rumor becomes true you have a 600 dollar system with an inferior version of madden, ncaa, apf than available on system which is a couple hundred dollars cheaper. Pay more money for a worse version of a multiplatform game does not go over well with consumers.
At the same time, the system is 600 bucks and that price has pissed off alot of people who actually want one but can't afford one. Also, developers are still struggling with CELL, and if the football rumor becomes true you have a 600 dollar system with an inferior version of madden, ncaa, apf than available on system which is a couple hundred dollars cheaper. Pay more money for a worse version of a multiplatform game does not go over well with consumers.
speculawyer
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:lolSegata Sanshiro said:
CrushDance
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I believe in looking reality straight in the eye and denying it.Burai said:What a crock of shit.
I think it's far more important that the press dig up old PS2 adverts from India than it is that they tackle Microsoft over the fact that every Xbox 360 leaves the factory with insufficient cooling and is a ticking timebomb that costs consumers an obligatory $50 warranty extension and $100+ repair fees once that warranty expires.
I mean, what affects me more as a consumer? A goat carcass at a party that I wasn't even at or a 1 month+ wait for a doomed-to-break-again refurb to come back from Microsoft's UK repair people?
That poor goat.
Mrbob said:
Exactly my point. I had a PS3 for a while and sold it before it was collecting too much dust. The hardware is great, it feels slicker than the 360, etc.
But at $600, you better have something a generation ahead of 360, and people need to stop calling developers lazy for bad PS3 ports. They actually try to make a profit on PS3 SKUs.
They deserve all the flak they get until they drop the price now.
AltogetherAndrews
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I don't see a problem with Sony taking some lashing for the price, but at the same time gaming and mainstream news media should probably report the other angle; it's a steep price, but when you compare it to issues with competing products, you do seem to get what you pay for, in terms of power and reliability. The last point in particular needs to be made a more common point. People can say that a high price of entry sets a bad precedent, but rushed and unreliable hardware doesn't seem like the best alternative if you ask me. And that's something media seems to largely ignore.
pooteeweet
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Mrbob said:
What rumor is that?
Big Shirtless Ron
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way to live up to your tag.rs7k said:
j/k
In other words, the sky is blue and the earth is round. The media (and readers) have always preferred a tragedy. The PS3 is performing tragically compared to the previous two gens. Of course the press is gonna have a field day with that. I don't think Price is whining, just stating a fact. Meh. PEACE.
Karma Kramer
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AltogetherAndrews said:
Yeah... I would say the media actually has done a fine job with Sony... but just a poor job with pointing out the problems with the Xbox 360. Criticism is good in my opinion. If only the media would have taken Microsoft to battle over reliablity... 360's today could be a lot more reliable.
MightyHedgehog
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I don't know...the press was very quick to suck on Sony's schlong last go 'round with lavish PR pieces everywhere despite their tenuous link to reality. I can't blame Price for being whiny since their entire fortune is built on Sony's back, but them's the breaks. I mean, someone's gotta lose, right? Like I said before, Wii is the media fave and a bonafide pop culture phenom. X360 simply has more things going right for it than PS3, so it's automatically a non-story for the press since it doesn't approach the allure of reporting on a top dog of the industry falling out of its throne rather spectacularly.
dai said:
My tag has something to do with a bobcat incident, not games. Fanboys take this stuff too seriously, "you're st00pid because I don't agree with you" kind of thing. Please refute an argument or two.
Maybe it was someone else at Insomniac. Who cares? My point still stands, the only memories I have of them doing interviews is bitching about how Sony isn't getting a fair shake, when they totally deserve to get blasted. It's $700 up here in Canada, it's a game console, hence the stupidity of Sony.
edit: lol saw stealth edit
Hey, I don't hate Sony or Insomniac. In fact I will strongly consider buying a PS3 when it gets down to around $300 (a decision that would be a no brainer if Silent Hill 5 comes out by then).captive said:And within 5 posts the haters are out.
I like Price he needs to be on the Insomniac podcast more(since ya know he hasnt been on it), if he can get away from partying with Shakira that is.
frankthurk
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rs7k said:
So you're not too smart about bobcats but a wiz when it comes to games...
rs7k said:
Ok, are you sure the tag wasn't meant to be general purpose?
szaromir said:
Yeah it is tough to gauge how big this would be, but at the same time we are in the internet age and it isn't tough to go visit IGN, gamespot, or 1up. Honestly I think all consumers are more informed nowadays than they were 6 years ago. Internet has changed coverage of the video game industry to a pretty big degree. As far as access to information quickly that can spread around easily.
pooteeweet
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Mrbob said:
Hadn't heard that. Interesting, if true. To be honest though, most of the multiplatform differences to this point are known by probably only 5% of the gaming public. With the exception of VT3, nobody really knows that one version has a better framerate, or AA, motion blur, etc. In fact, I bet a lot of people buying the PS3 versions of games think they're buying the superior version because of the Cell and BluRay.
JoshuaJSlone
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If he's setting the barrier for "selling well" as the individual regional launch sales of PS1, that maybe works, but then everything sells well.jamesb23 said:
CrushDance
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A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him or her. Strong people make as many mistakes as weak people. Difference is that strong people admit their mistakes, laugh at them, learn from them. That is how they become strong.
Insomniac has definately shown that they are more than capable with the pS3 and they've only done 1 "next gen" game so far.
I don't think he's saying that there shouldn't be any criticism of what the machine had been depicted like and I believe we can all agree that the price especially was a killer(and crabs).
But the amount of people biting on it still to this day is hard to believe. It's starting to show its worth; and like how he even said. Come this Christmas things should be getting better.
I think the console that has been "perfect" this gen from hate is the 360 and that can change if the PS3 starts to do well.
Wii= Kiddy, weak.
PS3= overpriced(duh), not sure what it is, trojan
360= Nothing.
The failure rates is going to be the 360's problem in the near future. All of these consoles have their problems and most of them are being worked on. Insomniac is building some fine games with what they have as of now.
Insomniac has definately shown that they are more than capable with the pS3 and they've only done 1 "next gen" game so far.
I don't think he's saying that there shouldn't be any criticism of what the machine had been depicted like and I believe we can all agree that the price especially was a killer(and crabs).
But the amount of people biting on it still to this day is hard to believe. It's starting to show its worth; and like how he even said. Come this Christmas things should be getting better.
I think the console that has been "perfect" this gen from hate is the 360 and that can change if the PS3 starts to do well.
Wii= Kiddy, weak.
PS3= overpriced(duh), not sure what it is, trojan
360= Nothing.
The failure rates is going to be the 360's problem in the near future. All of these consoles have their problems and most of them are being worked on. Insomniac is building some fine games with what they have as of now.
cicatriz said:
Or calling Bush dumb.
I can't take it when kids, ignorants and sad Internet existences call the man dumb, they should look at them self first before throwing rocks. :lol
And it's way too easy to explain things with the man being dumb, the answer is a whole lot more complex but it calls for wit to understand this.
Reminds me of the "PS3 only cost more because of Blu-Ray" and "compression removes the need for storage space" comments.
WickedLaharl
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Mustaphadamus said:
yeaaaah, you really need to realize that 600 dollars is way to much for a console
DrXym said:
How about what they promised compared to what they delivered. The press has every right to take Sony to task for the countless lies theyve been feeding the public. For example, remember how it was supposed to launch in spring and be "orders of magnitude" more powerful than the 360. Little did we know that was just the begining of the BS avalanche.
60_gig_PS3
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Sony deserves it though. To come out with a machine a year later that costs $200 more just mind bogling. I'm not seeing a tangible difference!
TheDuce22 said:
Didn't Kutaragi himself coin the term "Xbox 1.5"? I mean, even that just points to how they painted a completely inaccurate picture to gamers.
And so many gamers missed out on a full year of HD gaming because they thought that in the end the wait would be worth it.
Nevermind the fact that Sony was trying to hint that the console would be out in Spring 2006...
I think after E3 people will start looking at Sony more favorably. Less of the BS statements, and more action in the form of game releases and real-time demos...it should make any gamer happy.
Big Shirtless Ron
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wasn't that just an egm rumour?TheDuce22 said:
anyway, all you have to do is look at uncharted, lair, and heavenly sword to see that the psx3 is quite a bit more powerful than the x360.
titiklabingapat
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jamesb23 said:
It was because the PS2 was only sold in Japan at first and Sony combines all the PS3 units sold in Europe, USA and Japan in the similar time frame.
InterMoniker
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I think in the last Full Moon Show they mentioned Ted Price being on the next episode... Something about DLCcaptive said:And within 5 posts the haters are out.
I like Price he needs to be on the Insomniac podcast more(since ya know he hasnt been on it), if he can get away from partying with Shakira that is.
Metalmurphy
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Fight for Freeform said:
:lol :lol
He actually belongs to the part that is actually addressing those concerns... you know... Resistance and all...
pooteeweet
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dai said:
:lol
MightyHedgehog
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That price might only be one thing on a list, but it's the one that keeps them from gaining supporters because most people who made up their ranks previously could afford the system much earlier. This time, there are more, as gofreak once put it, credible options to choose from...and price is the single biggest thing assuming roughly comparable software lineups.Deku said:
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