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Ted Price: PS3 is 'Whipping Boy' for Press
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AltogetherAndrews
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Fight for Freeform said:
I'm not sure about the Xbox 1.5 statement, but as for a general difference in power... granted that there may be stuff still to be revealed, but I'm not seeing anything on the system that can go toe to toe with Lair, and that one is set to release well within the first year of the system's life. Gears of War is the current high water mark for the 360, and it's a showcase for surface graphics capabilities only. I guess we'll see what's what in terms of at E3, but right now I don't understand how people can be so quick to state that there is no real difference there.
Angry Grimace
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I actually have Resistance, and I don't feel it's all that great (it's just another FPS, like we need MORE of those). Why should I believe anything else they make will be super awesome.
CrushDance
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OMG!:lolcaptive said:
Ghaleon is actually pretty level headed, he's not a troll.
What types of FPS do you own and like?Angry Grimace said:
AltogetherAndrews
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Angry Grimace said:
Their next game isn't "just another FPS", maybe you'll enjoy that one more.
TheDarkKnight774
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Angry Grimace said:
oh i don't know, their track record of great games (including Resistance which isn't "just another FPS") couldn't possibly give them credibility eh?
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AltogetherAndrews said:
Anything can be within a year when you delay the console long enough. Anyways, we will get our first comparisons at E3 Halo vs Killzone or Banjo vs R&C
Sony got the heat they deserved, I'm just happy they are fixing their mistakes as quickly as they can manage. The fall line-up of games is really nice and the software updates have been addressing user concerns fairly well. With Home, a probable price drop pending and other interesting PSN only software (Socom online, etc.) coupled with the big hitters being put out by 1st party studios, I'd say Sony is doing well for itself.
CrushDance
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WOW! This place is going to be a disaster come E3.
HocusPocus
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Umm it's the nature of the industry. You're only as good as your last game and / or piece of hardware. This guy has been in the greener pastures of Sony Land far too long where they could do no wrong in the market and press. Welcome to the real world Mr. Price. 
-ImaginaryInsider
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captive said:
"As they dragged him away, he spoke to the other inmates. He said 'None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
There's none on the front page.captive said:
I was in meetings all day and just got to reading the thread, and that's where it was when I got to it. Typically, when lists of games are broken out, converstations take a nosedive. I was just making a snarky comment to an unneccesary development.
Ted Price seems like a classy guy, but I do think most of Sony's PR and market issues with the PS3 are self-inflicted. And they can also be temporary; get the right content out and the PS3 to the right price point, and the weak early sales will be history. But no one should blame the press for reporting on what has been a very troubled launch and post-launch period so far.
I agree. I was just giving you crap.GhaleonEB said:There's none on the front page.
I was in meetings all day and just got to reading the thread, and that's where it was when I got to it. Typically, when lists of games are broken out, converstations take a nosedive, just making a snarky comment to an unneccesary development.
Agree again, though i think *some* of the negative press was un-called for.
Since you insist..
(neutral) rs7k
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I think lately the Press for Sony has been getting better, especially when compared to earlier this year when they were getting hammered. IMO, if they can deliver at E3, while keeping their PR people shut (at least relative to mid last year to mid this year when they were spewing all the crap that created most of the ill-will), Sony should be getting much more favorable views all around.
With that being said, the price is definitely a smudge factor, whether its appropriately valued or not. Some people just can't afford it, or don't put to much value to it. Perhaps Mr. Price can alleviate that factor by making an awesome Ratchet game?
With that being said, the price is definitely a smudge factor, whether its appropriately valued or not. Some people just can't afford it, or don't put to much value to it. Perhaps Mr. Price can alleviate that factor by making an awesome Ratchet game?
frankthurk
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Fight for Freeform said:
Or he could continue working as he has been and also be allowed to talk about the industry without the snarky side comments...
oh wait, forgot where I was for a second.
AltogetherAndrews said:
There is a difference, but nothing outside the expected difference you would have with a console coming out one year later, and priced at 150% of the original price of the 360.
Kutaragi's comments were to imply that the 360 wasn't even a next generation console. If that were the case, then why do so many 3rd party title look noticeably better on the 360? Can't blame the 3rd parties...they didn't design the PS3 to be unorthodox in it's architecture.
Yeah well, people love seeing arrogant figures/companies drop like a rock. Sony is no other.
That and the atrocious start of both the console and the games coming out on the PS3. Sony will get there, but it will take at least another year before the PS3 is comparable with the 360. Next christmas will decide a lot for this console gen.
That and the atrocious start of both the console and the games coming out on the PS3. Sony will get there, but it will take at least another year before the PS3 is comparable with the 360. Next christmas will decide a lot for this console gen.
pooteeweet
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I don't know that the press has been all that unfavorable towards Sony. Message boards have been, no doubt. Analysts have picked apart its mistakes, that's what analysts do when they're not too busy being wrong with predictions. For the most part, however, gaming press isn't in the business of criticizing. They're in the business of reviews, previews, hands-on, videos, screenshots, rumors, etc.
BravoSuperStar
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its unfair to blame the press alone, as though they had some consipracy to "take down sony". Sony made their fair share of mistakes and stupid staments about the competition. If you can dish it out, you have to take it. If they dont like it, go multiconsole and reap the benefits of not having to rely on sony alone.
Mustaphadamus
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ever heard of the word "relative"?WickedLaharl said:
titiklabingapat
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Just for comparison's sake, was Nintendo treated the same way 10 years ago?
Worst I think..titiklabingapat said:
Because developers were not like Price, were he asks everyone to (literally) give the console a second chance..... Developers in general, badmouthed Nintendo on magazines and interviews and stopped releasing/making games for them because the console (and their games) were not selling...
There was also the whole "kiddy crap", "purple lunchbox", etc..
WickedLaharl
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Mustaphadamus said:
have you?
Fight for Freeform said:
They are addressing those concerns, obviously not everything can be fixed with magic sprinkles but then I'm sure you've seen some of the improvements. They've been more open and accessible like with their new blog, they've shown alot more of their games via playable demos, they're continuing to improve on the hardware functionality that people raised issues with.
Mustaphadamus
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WickedLaharl said:
You and the other winners need to step your salary game up.fernoca said:
Amir0x said:
That was even before those 10 years..
During the N64 era Square left Nintendo badmouthing them, to which Yamauchi just replied with "No problems no hard feelings...the best of luck"...
Just to later return to Nintendo during the GameCube era, asking money to Nintendo because they were about to go bankrupt, to which Nintendo gave the money..but to fund a Nintendo-centric team.
Green Shinobi
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Eh. I think Call of Duty 4 is right up there with Lair, and the footage we've seen is from the 360 version.AltogetherAndrews said:
If there is a difference in power, it's like an Xbox to Gamecube difference, not an Xbox to PS2 or N64 to PS1 difference.
Mustaphadamus
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the humor was lost on you so let me break it down. It was like calling a tall dude tiny.Amir0x said:
Big Shirtless Ron
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:lolGreen Shinobi said:
Green Shinobi said:
I'm not so sure about this yet. But if the PS3 continues to sell like it is this will end up being the case.
I've read various posts from devs here, and at other forums. It seems like most of the 3rd party community is still somewhat in the dark on how to effectively use the Cell processor in the PS3 in conjunction with the rest of the system. An extra year work on the X360 has done wonders right now, and MS is benefitting from launching first by having developers know their system better.
Most PS3 3rd party games are X360 ports which aren't using the architecture of the PS3 properly.
Mustaphadamus
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see post 145 for my simplification of the jokefernoca said:
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