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TF2 Engineer update incoming?
- Thread starter delirium
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I hate when an engineer somehow has enough metal to just keep plopping them down one after the other. See him put it down, run over and burn it before its fully deployed, try to chase him down, he plops anther one down, rinse and repeat until I run into anther sentry and it guns me down.chuckddd said:
sneakypete
Member
Anyone else feel shamed when a baby sentry kills you? It's worse than getting bone sawed..
The shots coming off it seemed a bit weak, but I didn't play against anybody who knew how use missiles (right click?) I'm also talking about one engie with no help, as there were class restrictions on the server. He camped a dispenser near his vents and went to town.MNC said:
I had to wait for a spy sap and moved in for extra destruction... He was just standing right next to the engineer, cloaked.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Note that the "cooldown" of the wrangler will vanish the moment you use wrangler again, so simply refilling with wrench then quickly switching to wrangler prevents trouble.
Azure Dream
Member
MNC said:
Exactly. Most of the other voice actors are in-house or easy to get access to. He's potentially the most expensive one, not easy to get in to do voice work, etc.
Other than the Pyro, he's the only one not to get new voice work yet, even when they've put in frivolous things like the Sniper commenting on the Payload cart. That's probably not a coincidence.
Ookami-kun said:
Ridiculously fast build time + Not easy to destroy while building, then Wrangled for full Level 1 Sentry power (at a doubled firing rate, so I think more pushback), long-distance shooting, and extra shielding. I've killed lots of people who've tried to circle-strafe my Mini-Sentry, or decide to come after me, so I just keep backpedaling while keeping the Wrangler trained on them, and they usually fall dead before they can do serious harm.
Yasae said:
Turbine is an awful map anyway, and I'm surprised Valve's left it the way they have this long. It needs a serious revision.
sneakypete
Member
:lol :lol Demoman is my favorite class at the moment 
What's your steam name Sai-kun?
What's your steam name Sai-kun?
speculawyer
Member
(repost from online thread)
Someone needs to make some animated GIFs of these awesome dancing TF2 characters . . .
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/07/10/liked-it-should-have-brought-a-flag-to-it/
Someone needs to make some animated GIFs of these awesome dancing TF2 characters . . .
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/07/10/liked-it-should-have-brought-a-flag-to-it/
Diablohead
Member
lol the demoman clip is great, keeps that whole cartoon feel, same with the pyro.speculawyer said:
Circle of Willis
Neo Member
:lol :lol heavy and medic one...
thetrin
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snoopeasystreet said:
I use mini sentries as semi-mobile quick deploy sentries. I carry it around with me during payload, drop the sentry when we hit resistance and pull out my shotgun. I've gotten a LOT of kills using them like that.
sw33tclyde said:
I got quite a few mini sentry kills last night moving them with the payload. People still havent gotten used to the fact that you can move and deploy them so quickly.
speculawyer
Member
Yeah, I burst out laughing at that one. An considering how they are so often paired together in the game, it was so appropriate.Circle of Willis said:
I think they may all be from famous dances . .
Sniper = Napoleon Dynamite
Pyro =?
Demo = ?
Spy = Michael Jackson
Heavy/Medic = ? (That wardrobe malfunction superbowl dance?)
I find the engineer now only sort of works on certain maps. Badlands right now is my favourite after the update.
As for the small sentries i'm using them like candy, just throwing them down in random places as we make a push or try to defend. It seems to work really well and since it only costs 100 metal, just throw another one down straight away and run off for more metal. It also means you get revenge if you use the new shotgun at a decent speed, if you don't die.
Still haven't gotten the wrangler
As for the small sentries i'm using them like candy, just throwing them down in random places as we make a push or try to defend. It seems to work really well and since it only costs 100 metal, just throw another one down straight away and run off for more metal. It also means you get revenge if you use the new shotgun at a decent speed, if you don't die.
Still haven't gotten the wrangler
sneakypete
Member
Just got the new engineer music on loading the game, great stuff. Valve <3
Circle of Willis
Neo Member
speculawyer said:
Demo has a bit of MC Hammer at the end...not sure what the beginning is though..
I seem to recall someone in one of the TF2 threads here saying that a scout can run by a mini sentry without dying, so I assume you only have problems with more than one of them?Big-E said:
I was carrying a level 3 sentry and I think I tried move back a little and place it when a pyro saw me. He killed me in like 1-2 seconds and my building almost instantly afterwards, and it might have even been the normal flamethrower. It really doesn't seem hard to kill, and if your problem is that engineers and medics can't kill sentries easily...I don't think they're supposed to. :lol And snipers can kill a full health level 3 sentry in what, 2-3 shots if it's not repaired?droopy said:
Also I think they may build a little faster if the engineer hits them with a wrench.
Diablohead
Member
Same with arrows, weaker if shot quickly on both humans and sentries.
Big-E said:
Scout is never too terribly fun in 32 man servers on most maps (gravelpit, blands, and select parts of other maps). Just too much spam going on. He does ok on 24 mans outside of maps like dustbowl and the last couple points of badwater and whatnot.
With all the engies, though, I've been staying off scout on pub servers. Just too many annoyances when running around. It's not so much that minis will kill you outright, but that they're a goddamn nuisance, and if you're not expecting them they ruin your fun (like most sentries will).
Azure Dream
Member
Do the Mini-Sentries not count toward some of the Achievements? It doesn't seem like they're accruing toward them, particular the ones with the Wrangler. I've blown up tons of Sentries and taken down a few Snipers with my Mini, but it doesn't seem to be triggering or counting.
It's amazing how achingly slow building a Level 1 sentry feels now.
It's amazing how achingly slow building a Level 1 sentry feels now.
Otrebor Nightmarecoat
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Big-E said:
Its harder but still enjoyable for me. I use the scout as support to distract sentries with my Bonk! Energy drink so other classes can destroy them.
Ice Monkey
Member
ok, i just got done getting a severe beatdown by a really good pyro. The type who has played 3000 hours of tf2 and probably doesnt use anything but pyro. I can't for the life of me think how to beat a pyro who's extremely good with the air blast. The fact that he could've even been aimbotting (just a general fear on PC, lots of aimbots out there) makes me even sadder.
I was running through what I could do to counter him and I couldnt think of anything.
I'm good with spy but a pyro is basically a hard counter to a spy.
An engie would take way too long to offensively tackle a good pyro, so that didnt seem like a great idea. Plus pyro basically counters engie too.
You could always use a sniper but of course you have to have really good aim.
You also need pretty good aim with a soldier, but less than a sniper, didn't really seem like it would be a great counter anyways to a mobile pyro.
scout is what im thinking is my best bet, didnt get to try him before I raged but again you need to be really good at mobility to take on a dedicated pyro.
As a pyro the guy basically just laughed me away with perfect compression blasts.
Heavy seemed like a good idea till he quickly set me on fire and one/two hit me with an axtinguisher. So depressing.
Didnt try demoman but didnt see how it would have improved my chances that much.
Medic obviously is all about teamwork.
Now, I know your gut response would just be "be better at the game" considering all my reasons for the classes not being good counters was just because I was bad at them (basically) but I just really got to thinking about it and I can't see what my option was for at least using the best class to counter a pyro in general. Anybody have any thoughts/help?
I was running through what I could do to counter him and I couldnt think of anything.
I'm good with spy but a pyro is basically a hard counter to a spy.
An engie would take way too long to offensively tackle a good pyro, so that didnt seem like a great idea. Plus pyro basically counters engie too.
You could always use a sniper but of course you have to have really good aim.
You also need pretty good aim with a soldier, but less than a sniper, didn't really seem like it would be a great counter anyways to a mobile pyro.
scout is what im thinking is my best bet, didnt get to try him before I raged but again you need to be really good at mobility to take on a dedicated pyro.
As a pyro the guy basically just laughed me away with perfect compression blasts.
Heavy seemed like a good idea till he quickly set me on fire and one/two hit me with an axtinguisher. So depressing.
Didnt try demoman but didnt see how it would have improved my chances that much.
Medic obviously is all about teamwork.
Now, I know your gut response would just be "be better at the game" considering all my reasons for the classes not being good counters was just because I was bad at them (basically) but I just really got to thinking about it and I can't see what my option was for at least using the best class to counter a pyro in general. Anybody have any thoughts/help?
Ice Monkey
Member
TheExodu5 said:
what in particular? just laughing as you dance around him with your shotty as a scout or strong sticky bomb usage as demo?
The worst part of the whole situation was just how obviously good he was with pyro, when I tried to mirror him he was basically compression blasting me the whole effing time, toying with me and such
speculawyer
Member
The Pyro can't take on a sentry well. The range of the flamethrower is too short. But yeah, you can't really go after him other than carry a L3 sentry and drop it near him.Ice Monkey said:
Ice Monkey
Member
ghst said:
thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking this was probably my best bet and am disappointed i didnt stick around long enough to try it out. You think (or others agree) this is the default counter in a "raging versus a specific pyro" situation?
Ice Monkey
Member
speculawyer said:
This starts to make more sense when i realize that that might be why homewrecker was given to pyro. So although not being a good offensive "go after the crazy pro pyro" with an engie I could always just set up shop with a good l3 sentry (this was on hightower payload) to at least shut down his ability to really help the team?
ghst said:
You're telling me. The most frustrating part of the whole ordeal was just being smacked in the face with the fact that this guy was way more experienced at tf2 than I was so i didnt stand too much of a chance.
I rarely do too, but another part of the problem was that he was chasing me around the map, he was really enjoying beating me down. Kinda griefing me almost. I'm rarely as terrible as i was in that game.ghst said:
Heavy is perhaps the easiest class in the game according to what someone told me, and I think heavies can generally kill at least one pyro before they die. Even if you aim down, you may not kill him when he's juggling you and you're ubered until the uber wears off, though.Ice Monkey said:
I would suggest maybe changing your crosshair to the big circular dot (I don't know what number that is), and using the regular gun. If your aim isn't good enough or the pyro gets anywhere close enough to set you on fire and airblast you, then try natascha instead to hamper his or her little feet.
I felt like it took me FOREVER to learn to aim the rocket launcher where people are going to be, and do much damage with the splash. And no matter how much I have played, I am still unreliable trying to rocket jump. If I'm trying to jump up on the balcony in doublecross, for instance, 2/3 of the time I might go most of the way up and come down, and the third time I might make it. And that's with jumping, crouching, and firing down after pressing crouch.John said:
I always crouch-jump-fire simultaneously. Also be sure to aim directly down at your feet.Blizzard said:I felt like it took me FOREVER to learn to aim the rocket launcher where people are going to be, and do much damage with the splash. And no matter how much I have played, I am still unreliable trying to rocket jump. If I'm trying to jump up on the balcony in doublecross, for instance, 2/3 of the time I might go most of the way up and come down, and the third time I might make it. And that's with jumping, crouching, and firing down after pressing crouch.