Unhandled Exception
Member
8 years later and this game still has a competitive scene? Let alone one big enough to convince Valve that it is worth fostering?
Fucking what.
Fucking what.
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TF2 is getting competitive matchmaking
- Thread starter ashecitism
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balladofwindfishes
Member
It won't be 6s. It'll be highlander, almost guaranteed. That was part of the original plan a year ago, at least. Valve consider highlander to be the "proper" comp TF2 environment so every class is represented.
ashecitism
Member
In the video they mentioned Valve might interested in 9v9 without the Highlander restriction. Anyway, it'll probably launch with only one format, because otherwise it would split up the community and make it slow for everyone. Which is not good for a launch. Later they'll iterate and might add support for other formats.
Wolf Akela
Member
Medic vs Kritzkrieg alone is enough reason not to stick to stock weapons.
The difference in skill level between pub and competitive cannot be overstated. You can jump into any decent MGE server and get rekt even if you sweep random pubs.
The difference in skill level between pub and competitive cannot be overstated. You can jump into any decent MGE server and get rekt even if you sweep random pubs.
Shuggananas
Banned
Most of the new weapons are actually alright
Some are plain fucking stupid (rocket jump boots, parachute, demo's shenanigans, etc), I'll agree to that.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The Gunboats are basically core on competitive Soldier and are one of the bread and butter unlocks for that class that nearly every league allows.
Dreams-Visions
Member
TF2 is the gift that keeps on giving.
I feel bad for anyone who managed to miss this game for the last near decade. It will be one of my best enduring gaming memories of all time. Especially after having met the voice actors. Game and franchise are just a treat, refreshingly light-hearted while still providing a heavily skill-based experience if you wanted to go to a try-hard server.
I feel bad for anyone who managed to miss this game for the last near decade. It will be one of my best enduring gaming memories of all time. Especially after having met the voice actors. Game and franchise are just a treat, refreshingly light-hearted while still providing a heavily skill-based experience if you wanted to go to a try-hard server.
gunboats are useful as fuck for me, and if youre parachuting in comp thats a fast ticket to get killed
really great news. as someone who still hops on pubs every week, this will be a nice change. gotta find a posse
Wolf Akela
Member
I used Gunboats ever since I wanted to learn how to aim rockets better. I won't have any other fallback if I miss, so it pushed me to make each rocket count. It really paid off in the end.
And I guess it's been really long since I played. I didn't know GB was considerable on competitive, let alone core. It used to be a joke.
And I guess it's been really long since I played. I didn't know GB was considerable on competitive, let alone core. It used to be a joke.
the rocket jump game is real. mastering that and getting around the map far quicker as a result is something I would consider key for soldier players. separates the men from the ladies
It's kind of a shame that after 8 years of the community saying "this is how we play comp" that Valve still isn't into it. Like, I know the game wasn't designed for comp play to begin with but if you're gonna support it at this point, you may as well go all-in.
I've pretty much stopped playing tf2 over the last 2 years. Playing a pub and going 30-1 is just not that fun. And spending 3 hours a night/5 nights a week on a competitive team is not something I can handle. I'm so glad they are working on this. Hopefully they'll finally start balancing some of those goddamn pyro and heavy weapons.
These useless years of competitive tf2 will finally pay off. Dreamhack here I come!
These useless years of competitive tf2 will finally pay off. Dreamhack here I come!
balladofwindfishes
Member
Highlander is on the rise (and has been for awhile) and is the most popular format for amateur leagues, which are probably the people who would most benefit from a comp lobby.
Shuggananas
Banned
I agree that rocket jump is primordial, I just find the concept of the gunboats stupid. You just take less damage from RJ, meaning you can abuse it even more.
Items I listed were more "stupid" items than OP items in my taste.
pinkurocket
Member
If they stick to vanilla weapons only that would be stupid. I can't play engineer without my trusty Rescue Ranger!!!
But if they allow a list to choose which weapons you want disables for certain matches, that could work. It still would need tiers for what is truly 'comp' or something.
But if they allow a list to choose which weapons you want disables for certain matches, that could work. It still would need tiers for what is truly 'comp' or something.
Oh, interesting ... admittedly, I haven't played on a team since '09 and fell out of the game for a long time afterward. Highlander was an amusing idea at best, back then.
Shuggananas
Banned
Highlander is the most accessible mode imo, playing 2 scouts 2 soldiers demo medic would be boring for some people I'm guessing.
Although the issue with highlander is some classes are shit on some maps or modes
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Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
It was a lot of fun playing FLOOR_MASTER's TF2lobby, so it's great to hear that TF2 is finally getting it officially.
Phrozenflame500
Member
Only took them like 3 years.
Better late then never I guess.
Better late then never I guess.
Likewise. Haven't played TF2 in years but this good be great. Huntsman spam is real.
I really don't think TF2 is very good as a competitive game unless the competitive matches are played without crits. Crits, and the fact that they can happen on ANY weapon are the single reason that make it not a viable competitive game and more of a stupid fun one. Don't get me wrong, I love TF2, it's a lot of fun, and they have built up a great legacy on this game as it's been active for EIGHT YEARS, but in no way shape or form is it fit to be a competitive game unless the games are played with crits disabled.
Random crits have been disabled in all forms of competitive TF2 for years, same with random spread.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Chances are, crits will be disabled for matchmaking. There isn't a single ruleset out there that have crits on.
Random damage and bullet spread either, I don't believe.
GoldandBlue
Member
There is a competitive scene and a mode for competitive tf2 already thought. And it all works pretty well.
Oh, well I didn't know that. In that case, carry on!
RandomExpletive
Member
Definitely getting back in when this lands (hopefully with a meta-game-breaking spy v engy update 
), in the meantime I should brush up on my rollouts...
), in the meantime I should brush up on my rollouts...ashecitism
Member
Okay, so this says less than 9v9 is likely to be the start.
Zombegoast
Member
Hope it's not a mess like CS:GO's.
As a huge TF2 fan I'm super excited about this... I still play the game quite a bit, though it's always been hard to convince friends to give competitive formats a shot because even simple pugging requires going through 3rd party sites or IRC channels, downloading Mumble, etc.
It's been incredible to see how much the community has done on their own to keep the competitive scene alive, in-game matchmaking and support from Valve will be such a great boost.
It's been incredible to see how much the community has done on their own to keep the competitive scene alive, in-game matchmaking and support from Valve will be such a great boost.
No more ESEA lan but the regular league including Invite lives on
http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=14547
http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=14547
30 minutes till we get some more details http://teamfortress.tv/thread/24742/fully-charged-valve-and-competitive-tf2-episode-42
direct link to the Twitch channel: http://www.twitch.tv/teamfortresstv
edit: sorry for the double post
direct link to the Twitch channel: http://www.twitch.tv/teamfortresstv
edit: sorry for the double post
human onion
Banned
I think I might have to return now. It might be too late to really get a resurgence in the game, but if anything will do it, this is it.
VOD will be up soon if you missed it. Some of the main points from the cast...
- Valve wants to implement matchmaking in order to gather data for weapon balance and serve as an "end-game" for players to aspire to beyond pubbing.
- Format and team size are up in the air still, though Valve's interested in eventually having multiple queues. They're weighing convenience/speed of matchmaking vs TF2's population size. Will likely be different from existing competitive formats especially with regards to class/weapon limitations, so people used to current 6s and HL should keep an open mind.
- Ladder will likely be based on a rating of one's general TF2 skill, rather than a per class ranking.
- Source 2 port of TF2 is not happening any time soon since they don't see an immediate need for it.
- ETA is Valve-time. They do have a matchmaking system working internally and have been working on it at least since the fall of last year.
- The current TF2 team has some new blood, comprises ~4-8 people, and shares an office with CSGO devs. They'll remain in contact with the competitive scene moving forward and are already working on requested bug fixes and features like more customizable crosshair support, HUD changes, fixing demo functionality, etc. They're also willing to send merch to tournaments in the future.
Exciting stuff. :>
- Valve wants to implement matchmaking in order to gather data for weapon balance and serve as an "end-game" for players to aspire to beyond pubbing.
- Format and team size are up in the air still, though Valve's interested in eventually having multiple queues. They're weighing convenience/speed of matchmaking vs TF2's population size. Will likely be different from existing competitive formats especially with regards to class/weapon limitations, so people used to current 6s and HL should keep an open mind.
- Ladder will likely be based on a rating of one's general TF2 skill, rather than a per class ranking.
- Source 2 port of TF2 is not happening any time soon since they don't see an immediate need for it.
- ETA is Valve-time.
They do have a matchmaking system working internally and have been working on it at least since the fall of last year.- The current TF2 team has some new blood, comprises ~4-8 people, and shares an office with CSGO devs. They'll remain in contact with the competitive scene moving forward and are already working on requested bug fixes and features like more customizable crosshair support, HUD changes, fixing demo functionality, etc. They're also willing to send merch to tournaments in the future.
Exciting stuff. :>
Wolf Akela
Member
No word on how they'll handle classes in queues?
It sounds like at least initially people wont be forced into certain classes, though things are still up in the air at the moment.
ashecitism
Member
VOD will be up soon if you missed it. Some of the main points from the cast...
- Valve wants to implement matchmaking in order to gather data for weapon balance and serve as an "end-game" for players to aspire to beyond pubbing.
- Format and team size are up in the air still, though Valve's interested in eventually having multiple queues. They're weighing convenience/speed of matchmaking vs TF2's population size. Will likely be different from existing competitive formats especially with regards to class/weapon limitations, so people used to current 6s and HL should keep an open mind.
- Ladder will likely be based on a rating of one's general TF2 skill, rather than a per class ranking.
- Source 2 port of TF2 is not happening any time soon since they don't see an immediate need for it.
- ETA is Valve-time.
- The current TF2 team has some new blood, comprises ~4-8 people, and shares an office with CSGO devs. They'll remain in contact with the competitive scene moving forward and are already working on requested bug fixes and features like more customizable crosshair support, HUD changes, fixing demo functionality, etc. They're also willing to send merch to tournaments in the future.
Exciting stuff. :>
Figured the stuff about Source 2. Dota is on priority atm. And after that maybe GO.
Thanks for this. Can a mod please put this in the OP and edit the title accordingly ("Updated" "Some details" or something like that)? On a phone atm.