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Not convinced that ALL of the DLC will be free but its good they won't charge for all of it. Nice.
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Not convinced that ALL of the DLC will be free but its good they won't charge for all of it. Nice.
$5 costume DLC incoming.
You will buy the Stella costume DLC.
Well as long as a few alt are in the base game, i am okay with others being paid DLC
because i'll never buy them :]
She fights with lances/tridents/javelins.
They needed to adress the question. Partly because Nomura already made the decision & mistake of mentioning they were testing airships for Versus XIII and partly because controllable airships are something people would really like to see return into mainline FF and what's a better game to have flyable modes of transport than the first seamless open-world-ish FF ever? It was one of the most asked questions about FFXV, so they couldnt just stay silent about it. Maybe saying that it might come as DLC/update afterwards wasn't the best way to adress the question, but they needed to give an answer and "no comment" or "we'll talk about it later" would have been far worse
Hero Prinny
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What is this about guns? I thought that was one of the cut elements back when it was still versus 13
That was knee jerk conjecture. We saw guns a month ago.
No they didn't, not when they keep saying this game isn't Versus XIII. There hasn't been true PS1-style airships in the series for a while so the sudden fixation here is hilarious given most fans probably didn't even read the Nomura interviews you mentioned.
Airships as fast travel has been a thing for a while, then you had FFX's point and click version which was fine too. Only now in FF14 can you fly a personal airship but that's still restricted to certain zones.
From a narrative standpoint, it's completely possible to have a menu-driven fast-travel airship at launch and the flyable higher-than-Ramuh's-head version with manual control to get to exclusively airship areas later on.
Not saying that's what's going on, but 'flyable airship as DLC' doesn't preclude their importance to the story, if they're part of the story.
Hero Prinny
Member
Oooh really? In video format or pictures? Gotta go watch it if its a video cause i didnt watch it then
I hope this is the case. I was pretty eh on it as well, but you raise good points.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Hm, should I buy Type-0 Fr4me edition for 24 ? If I am going to buy it, I am not doing it for the FFXV demo, lol.
You're right, there hasn't been an airship in a long time, but that doesn't mean a lot people don't want it back. Lack of a world map/overworld that you could travel through with an airship in the past few FFs (not just through quick travel or menu) is one of the things a lot of people complain the most about or at least hope it would make a return at some point in the future. And despite some bigger changes, a lot of stuff they talked about for Versus was still carried over from Versus in one form or the other. Car being an important mode of transport, Noctis summoning weapons, Noctis' ability to use all weapon types, the sword teleport, importance/role/style of summons etc., so why not airships?
And you might've lived under a rock, because there was a lot of complaining over FFX being so different from the past FFs, one of the biggest complaints being it was without a miniature world map you could more freely traverse with airships etc. Even with FFXII's world being far less linear, a lot of people still yearned for the return of airships. And, again, airships has been one of the most frequent questions about FFXV and people were getting antsy about getting an answer to the question. I think it's better to know there's at least a chance that a flyable airship will be in the game than still being completely in the dark and not knowing whether one is even planned anymore or not.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
to be honest? he should.
I mean look at Cor he is fucking badass
Cor can easily be the best FF protagonist in my book.
I love this artwork, not only because it draws a comparison between Regis's generation and Noctis's via "group of loyal friends", it's also similar to the comparison between the 4 Braves of Light/Light Warriors(Dorgann, Galuf, Kelger, Xezat) of FFV and the next generation of Light Warriors(Bartz, Reina, Faris, Krile). Given Cor is supposed to join Noctis, it reminds me of Galuf joining Bartz and crew(basically, a member of the "old guard" joins the "new guard" as a sort of mentor figure).
Still, love that they made Cid(who is dressed similar to Cindy) a fighter and friend of Regis. All of Regis's companions seem to fall along the similar lines of Noctis, with Cid taking Prompto's place, Gladiolus's dad takes Gladiolus's place, Cor takes Ignis's place, and Regins takes Noctis's place.
People can beg for it all they want but if the game isn't designed for it, it's not designed for it. XV wasn't and Tabata's answers on the subject make that very clear.
NoctisVsStar
Member
This sudden fixation for airships is weird but whether is day one or dlc I hope the people who want this get their wish. I just want a good/decent story I don't really care for the tropes but yet again I'm in the minority.
Admiral Woofington
Member
to be honest? he should.
I mean look at Cor he is fucking badass
Cor can easily be the best FF protagonist in my book.
god why can't I play as this guy instead of Rain and N'Sync
Which one is the bad boy, which one is the sweetheart?
Yeah, we could still have scenes like the one in the E3 2013 story trailer where Noctis is flying over Altissia on an enemy airship in real time or the kind where Noctis is on that flying platform in Lucis in the 2011 trailer (I mean, we did saw him teleporting into one of those enemy dropships in the last progress report video). I'm guessing airships aren't too much of a problem if they stay within a certain sized area that is already streamed into the game (like a city or a swampy forest), but if you fly longer distances where the type of terrain & environment changes a lot (like, say, from the wilds into Altissia), then there are probably still problems. The streaming might not currently be able to keep up with the move from, for example, some swamp to a hugely detailed city.
vainglorious
Member
lol Nomura also had a world map just like the ones present in 7, 8, and 9 but decided to scrap it because he felt like it wasn't cohesive with the rest of the game. There was so much iteration going on with Versus 13 that holding the 15 development team to anything that Nomura said or wanted 5 or 6 years ago is crazy.
YankeeDonB
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Fully agreed, although I think it's funny that Glad Dad, despite being a bruiser like his son, is doing some Tai Chi shit.
Sounds like this was successful overall, as far as ATRs go. I still feel the trickle of information is unnecessary. I'd have preferred to get the Dawn stuff, the minigame stuff, etc. in a trailer that put it all in a larger context. Their ratio of talking versus showing is a little too slanted toward the former, as well. It's nice to hear about how things like magic are supposed to work, and details about the characters, but it doesn't translate into anything exciting unless shown through the actual game world. I don't like that so much of what we "know" only exists in the context of ATRs.
But I guess this complaint has been made a million times already. Maybe ATRs will look better when they have more to show, and all the ATR stuff becomes more supplemental.
But I guess this complaint has been made a million times already. Maybe ATRs will look better when they have more to show, and all the ATR stuff becomes more supplemental.
Hopefully the big break means they'll come back with something more meaty.
NoctisVsStar
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Here's the thing, everyone fell in love with the concept/imagination Nomura came up with for VersusXIII. However, the execution of it was flawed since he was changing stuff on the fly and nothing was ever set in stone despite whatever intentions Nomura had.
Fans ( like me ) held on to vague comments from sporadic interviews throughout the years and formed this imaginary game in our heads sort of a fanfic. I let go of this notion long ago and you still see people judging this game on VersusXIII metric.. But people will say "Tabata said nothing was changed from Versus! Bla bla" poor PR talk, lied or afraid of reactions whatever you wanna call it however i do believe he tried to salvage concepts on what little was there to form a cohesive single story since the sequels idea for the moment have been scrapped. Tabata is basically like the XOF crew in TPP that came in to clean the mess, it pains me to say it but that's the truth. I still would've preffered Nomura's vision all day but at least the game is coming.
Finally people screaming at the dawn trailers is funny cause when they start showing spoiler trailers they will still complain they showed to much,
Still doesn't mean Tabata revealing they are working on it is wrong. Their messaging could've been better/clearer, like with a lot of things related to ATRs/FFXV's info sharing/marketing, but all-in-all us knowing they are working on airships, even if it's not certain the feature will be in, is not a bad thing. It's not like the absence of a flyable airship will make or break the game, but it will be a nice feature to have if they manage to pull them off and I think it's nice to finally know that they haven't completely abandoned the feature that hasn't been heard of in, like, 6-7 years.
We knew that the old school world map was scrapped a long time ago, though. Again, a lot of the concepts from Versus did make it into FFXV (even if how some of them control/function was changed), so it's not too far-fetched to think that airships could have made the cut as well, especially since we've seen Noctis on an airship post-Versus XIII. It's just one of those things that was mentioned briefly and then never heard of again, yet never officially scrapped either. Some stuff has been like that yet they have actually resurfaced later on. Like Noctis using guns. Nomura said it would be possible in Versus XIII. We never saw it. Never heard of it again. Game changed to FFXV and still didn't see it. But lo and behold, we got a surprise-confirmation that Noctis is still able to use guns in FFXV just recently.
AuthenticM
Member
I would pay for a French dub.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
God I hate this shit in RPGs....looking at you Tales. Look at Souls/Dragons Dogma. Why can't they just give us plenty of costumes to attain in game :/
MagnaderAlpha
Member
I hope all costumes aren't Roen designed. I've said things like this, I wouldn't be against having other artists at Square(or freelancers) design costumes for these characters. Like, get Nomura to design a set for all the heroes, maybe not like the original pre-Roen Versus costumes(other than Noctis, Gladiolus, Prompto and Ignis were dressed too casual and very similar to their final Roen look). Just let Nomura go crazy(even with belts and zippers, if he chooses to do so... he's earned it). Also, being a big fan, I'd love an Amano costume set(ask Amano to design his own original outfits for the four heroes and maybe Cor too). Might look out of place, but no one says "additional" costumes in JRPGs need to look logical.
DarkLordMalik
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They know a lot if people will pay a lot of money to get the old Versus costumes in the game. It is literally a gold mine.
This!!!
I remember that perfectly, i got seriously pissed off the game when i discovered that.
I'm the exception, not the rule, but it nukes my interest in costumes wholesale when it's DLC. I'm just not at all tempted. I like in-game rewards. I like there to be a mechanic, a line of dialogue, something. When this kind of stuff is DLC, it's just, "pop, now you look different," and that's so trite, so small. Certainly not a thing I'd spend $5 on.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
But I want more artworks and random footage of minor gameplay elements!!
You want Duscae 3.0?
DarkLordMalik
Member
I am surprised no one has asked them about Duscae 3.0, even as a joke
vainglorious
Member
Are you referring to the Accordo sequence with Leviathan? That's a scripted set-piece. If we can only get airships and airship battles etc through similar set pieces I'd be ok with that.
More games need all sorts of dubs, would be fun to compare them.
Airships are cool and all but I don't think this is the game to bring them back in a traditional sense. Perhaps FF7's remake though ?
I just get the feeling that this game has been designed 100% around the speedier travel option being roads and cars - hop in the car, drive and take a look outside , see anything that looks enticing ? then pull over and hop out and run around exploring for a bit.
Given the scale of the graphics , I wouldn't be surprised at all if the actual game isn't quite as huge as maps and demos make it seem either.
I fact , I think it will take a page from FFXIII in one way - there will be "chapters". FFXIII ended up having 13 chapters typically filled with 30 mintues of story, 1 hour of exploring/monster fighting ending with a boss and and a 10 minute cutscene right up until the last couple chapters.
With FFXV , I think we will end up having 15 chapters - each one will be a main location or goal probably culminating in a boss battle. Some of these might be long sections with a bunch of side quests , others might by on rails narrative sections such as the leviathan sequence showcased in the 2013 trailer. This entry looks to have some similarities to ffx's narrative as well - traversing the world from point A to B collecting summon monsters , I imagine a couple of them will be optional but I suspect a good chunk are intended to be full chapters - even the episode duscae demo seems like half of a chapter - you leave Nifelhiem to go deal with Titan , Prompto does something that breaks down the car so you've gotta spend a day exploring the countryside nearby to collect money and then the next day (in theory) you drive down the highway some more to go have a chat with Titan and fight him as a big boss. Then, perhaps after that you go back to nifelheim for the failed peace treaty sequence where the city is under attack and it ends with Noctis escaping with his friends leading into chapter 3 - where you probably have to travel somewhere for a reason !
Using airships as anything outside of a fast travel option in a game with this potential design would be little more than a cosmetic thing really.
I just get the feeling that this game has been designed 100% around the speedier travel option being roads and cars - hop in the car, drive and take a look outside , see anything that looks enticing ? then pull over and hop out and run around exploring for a bit.
Given the scale of the graphics , I wouldn't be surprised at all if the actual game isn't quite as huge as maps and demos make it seem either.
I fact , I think it will take a page from FFXIII in one way - there will be "chapters". FFXIII ended up having 13 chapters typically filled with 30 mintues of story, 1 hour of exploring/monster fighting ending with a boss and and a 10 minute cutscene right up until the last couple chapters.
With FFXV , I think we will end up having 15 chapters - each one will be a main location or goal probably culminating in a boss battle. Some of these might be long sections with a bunch of side quests , others might by on rails narrative sections such as the leviathan sequence showcased in the 2013 trailer. This entry looks to have some similarities to ffx's narrative as well - traversing the world from point A to B collecting summon monsters , I imagine a couple of them will be optional but I suspect a good chunk are intended to be full chapters - even the episode duscae demo seems like half of a chapter - you leave Nifelhiem to go deal with Titan , Prompto does something that breaks down the car so you've gotta spend a day exploring the countryside nearby to collect money and then the next day (in theory) you drive down the highway some more to go have a chat with Titan and fight him as a big boss. Then, perhaps after that you go back to nifelheim for the failed peace treaty sequence where the city is under attack and it ends with Noctis escaping with his friends leading into chapter 3 - where you probably have to travel somewhere for a reason !
Using airships as anything outside of a fast travel option in a game with this potential design would be little more than a cosmetic thing really.
It was also a target render tech demo. :>
Yeah but i guess they'll try and get as close as possible to it.