All those fighting game bosses on the list and not a single one is from an SNK game.
I'm in tears from laughing so hard.
I find this argument more than a little bit silly. If someone who has only seen 100 films is tasked with making a list of the 100 greatest films of all time, he's going to come up with a bad list. He can't justify his bad list by saying "well, I've only seen 100 films"; he's just not qualified to make a list.
It's all well and good to say "these are my 100 favorite films" -- although then still one wonders what the point of the list is when you've only seen 100 films -- but to talk of relatively objective criteria and only look at a very narrow scope of the topic because you want to make people feel involved in your list seems very strange to me.
You don't learn anything from a list like this. You are indeed correct that video games are a very diverse medium and that the diversity that this list covers incidentally includes very few actually difficult games, all things considered.
Eh. KH2 Sephiroth is #8 over Lingering Will at #24? Sephiroth wasn't even that difficult. I'd place a few of the data fights over him.
Fugu said:You don't learn anything from a list like this. You are indeed correct that video games are a very diverse medium and that the diversity that this list covers incidentally includes very few actually difficult games, all things considered.
Yeah. This is pure clickbait. Intentionally shitty fake journalism to get views for ads. That's, like 80% of the internet now. You must work to get food to eat and this is at least not as bad as doing the same shit in politics but still quite degrading.
Somehow you misattributed that first quote to someone else.The ๖ۜBronx;250076523 said:You do from the resulting discussion though, which I feel is half the point too. Past that though I do feel I learned something from the list, even if it was just a bit about bosses in games I'd not played. I found it interesting even while recognising it's far from a definitive list.
Somehow you misattributed that first quote to someone else.
What I learned from this list is that the people who made it think the medium is largely confined to AAA games.
The ๖ۜBronx;250076523 said:I can understand disagreeing with the list but how is it degrading?
I only play enough SHMUPs to know that I am not qualified to make a list about the 100 most difficult bosses because they are a) so singularly focused on being difficult and b) so singularly focused on bosses that such a list would necessarily consist at least 50% of bosses from SHMUPs.The ๖ۜBronx;250077699 said:That.. really is quite remarkable.. Thank you for pointing that out lol.
That's fair enough, it's certainly focused around games people are likely to recognise. Have you put down a list of ones you think are difficult but less mainstream? Sorry if I missed it if you have, but I'd certainly find it interesting to read.
Fair enough, I think it's an honest list it's just from the perspective of the people that made it though I understand your grievances; it's far from comprehensive and should have been titled more personally to better represent what the list is.Doing shitty journalism aimed at manipulating people to get ad views is imo degrading, whether it's conscious or not. But a lot of work is messed up like this, certainly most intellectual work, so it's not really particularly bad.
I think if you really wanted a somewhat worthwhile list as a result, you'd do a series of discussions on your site and maybe in collaboration with gaming forums and make it a longer term project which gets updated. But this is just about throwing a list together in a half-assed way and get out of any critique by saying "it's just an opinion".
That's a good, reasonable explanation. Could you name some favourites that were challenging? Always interested in checking out new games and haven't played a SHMUP since.. Ikaruga and honestly am so unfamiliar with the genre that I hesitate before labelling a game under it for fear of ignorance.I only play enough SHMUPs to know that I am not qualified to make a list about the 100 most difficult bosses because they are a) so singularly focused on being difficult and b) so singularly focused on bosses that such a list would necessarily consist at least 50% of bosses from SHMUPs.
The rest would come from arcade games for similar considerations.
List of hardest Monster Hunter bosses
- Clashing Fists Brachydios
- Descent into Hades Stygian Zinogre
- Cruel King of the Sea Ivory Lagiacrus
- Level 140 Zinogre
- Level 140 Deviljho
- Level 140 Shagaru
- Level 140 Yian-Garuga
- Level 140 Stygian Zinogre
- Okay, level 140 goddamn everything short of Velocidrome
- Beyond the Crimson Veil Crimson Fatalis, aka Spontaneous Combustion Simulator
- Whatever the fuck half that shit from Frontier is
- White Fatalis, aka Desert Bus
Somehow you misattributed that first quote to someone else.
What I learned from this list is that the people who made it think the medium is largely confined to AAA games.
The ๖ۜBronx;250080864 said:Fair enough, I think it's an honest list it's just from the perspective of the people that made it though I understand your grievances; it's far from comprehensive and should have been titled more personally to better represent what the list is.
http://www.vulture.com/article/100-hardest-video-game-bosses-ranked.html
List in the link. Not just a list, tons of reading too. This is how you do lists. I love the inclusion of the Top Gun NES aircraft carrier landing as a Boss lol.
My personal top Top 3
1. O&S Solo (Dark Souls)
2. Alma (Ninja Gaiden Black)
3. Old King Allant (Demon's Souls)
What's your top three and what do you think of the list?
Nah, black phantom Selen Vinland.
She has an unblockable weapon, is fought on a tiny patch of land in a sea of mud you can't roll in (but she can), can heal, and can cast anti-magic field.
Basically, she has every unfair advantage possible. She's like the Meat Cleaver black phantom, but worse.
Pure Black World Tendency 5-2 is a bitch.
The two shark men down the well (NG+).
Wait no SNK bosses? The SNK Bosses that forged the SNK Bosses Syndrome?
http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/SNK_Boss_Syndrome
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SNKBoss
https://www.giantbomb.com/snk-boss-syndrome/3015-2788/
I knew that the list wasn't going to be filled with SNK bosses but the list is really a bad joke.
These two killed through ten summons I threw in until I decided I didnt want the Rakuyo that bad 😂
The two shark men down the well (NG+). I think I broke a controller trying to beat them.
Wait no SNK bosses? The SNK Bosses that forged the SNK Bosses Syndrome?
http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/SNK_Boss_Syndrome
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SNKBoss
https://www.giantbomb.com/snk-boss-syndrome/3015-2788/
I knew that the list wasn't going to be filled with SNK bosses but the list is really a bad joke.
Yeah, I'm no savant of gaming, and I've beaten the Sonic 2 final boss a ton of times. He's really not THAT hard.You heard it here first, Sonic 2's final boss is harder than the final battle of Devil May Cry 3...
I've got to say I have never understood the reputation Alma has.
All those fighting game bosses on the list and not a single one is from an SNK game.
I'm in tears from laughing so hard.
Pre-nerf M'uru