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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I think you should just give up guessing Apple's market presence, considering this plus that other thread where you didn't know iPods were still the majority of MP3 players. :)

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RIM's Blackberry is still king if you count all their models together, but Apple's in the top 5. Looks like #3 behind LG's phones.


Hey ... I fully admitted my retardation in the other thread :lol



What I'm saying is that RIGHT NOW, iPhone is not the majority, which as you state is true. So when talking about the present time, I think your argument about to be or not to be niche is broken.

I fully expect that next year or the year after, iPhone could have a majority. I also think Android will take off as well. That doesn't change my point though.
 
LovingSteam said:
Hmmm... well my iPhone multitasks :)

Mine too. Just not really user chooseable. Still, the rate at which the iPhone manages what is already there is becoming a bit sluggish (the 3G really wasn't built for 3.0 in mind, in my opinion).

Anyway, Phone, Mail, Safari, iPod, notifications all run simultaneously with whatever the phone is doing. The experience of running apps is mostly seamless (most apps quit very quickly and have a save state), that I find myself not really requiring multitasking too much. Maybe IM related stuff, but push does a pretty good job with that.
 
Onix said:
Hey ... I fully admitted my retardation in the other thread :lol



What I'm saying is that RIGHT NOW, iPhone is not the majority, which as you state is true. So when talking about the present time, I think your argument about to be or not to be niche is broken.

I fully expect that next year or the year after, iPhone could have a majority. I also think Android will take off as well. That doesn't change my point though.
The argument is that the iPhone expanded the market for smartphones, and it did. The people who didn't rush out to buy iPhones went to their carriers and bought the next best thing. There's a reason the other carriers went to the hardware manufacturers and demanded so called "iPhone killers".
 
Tobor said:
The argument is that the iPhone expanded the market for smartphones, and it did.
wrong. rezuth said "the iphone brought smartphone out of niche" which Lui Kang Baking a Pie defended.
No one is disagreeing that the iphone is huge and that it expanded the market for smartphones, but it did not bring smartphones out of "niche."
 
Tobor said:
The argument is that the iPhone expanded the market for smartphones, and it did.

No one was denying that. The argument was whether the market was niche before iPhone.


The people who didn't rush out to buy iPhones went to their carriers and bought the next best thing. There's a reason the other carriers went to the hardware manufacturers and demanded so called "iPhone killers".

A lot of the phones advertised as iPhone killers weren't even smartphones :lol
 
captive said:
wrong. rezuth said "the iphone brought smartphone out of niche" which Lui Kang Baking a Pie defended.
No one is disagreeing that the iphone is huge and that it expanded the market for smartphones, but it did not bring smartphones out of "niche."

Niche perhaps isn't the right word, but it brought smartphones to the attention of joe public as opposed to business users.
 
captive said:
wrong. rezuth said "the iphone brought smartphone out of niche" which Lui Kang Baking a Pie defended.
No one is disagreeing that the iphone is huge and that it expanded the market for smartphones, but it did not bring smartphones out of "niche."
On a consumer level I'd agree with that statement.

Business obviously not.

EDIT: what mrkgoo said.
 
Is there anything about connectivity with apple's other hardware? I would love for this to have an "extended desktop"\"wacom" feature that lets you use Photoshop or some other program with the power of the computer but use the tablet's screen as well for painting and selecting areas.
This thing also really needs a OneNote like software if it is touch based (which I think we all assume it is).
I can think of so many programs that could be made for this. I wish I could program.
If it's priced well and has connectivity with apple computers, I will probably buy it as soon as it's available to me :D
 
flsh said:
Is there anything about connectivity with apple's other hardware? I would love for this to have an "extended desktop"\"wacom" feature that lets you use Photoshop or some other program with the power of the computer but use the tablet's screen as well for painting and selecting areas.
This thing also really needs a OneNote like software if it is touch based (which I think we all assume it is).
I can think of so many programs that could be made for this. I wish I could program.
If it's priced well and has connectivity with apple computers, I will probably buy it as soon as it's available to me :D
Even if it's not built in, there's no reason that couldn't be added. I have software on my iPhone right now that turns it into a trackpad for my MacBook.
 
captive said:
sigh, i should follow my own advice and not even try.
Can you produce numbers that say otherwise? Smartphones pre-iPhone were big clunky and business oriented. No one was even trying to capture the consumer market.
 
Tobor said:
Can you produce numbers that say otherwise? Smartphones pre-iPhone were big clunky and business oriented. No one was even trying to capture the consumer market.
http://news.cnet.com/Smart-phone-sales-are-soaring/2100-1041_3-6124049.html
Smart-phone sales have already increased by 75.5 percent in the last year to 37.4 million units, and will grow by a further 66 percent during 2006, according to data released last week by the analyst firm.
A full year before the first iphone released.
 
Onix said:
It's like you guys jumped into the conversation midstream.

Oh wait ... :p

I admit, I did jump midstream. To be totally honest, I wouldn't know much about the smartphone market. I know they existed before the iPhone, but they never really used to in the public's eye. Also, New Zealand is behind in tech, in that regard, and I AM Joe Public - never interested in smartphones before. Actually, I was amazed at the announcement of the iPhone, but I continued to not really care. It didn't come out in NZ (the 3G was the first iPhone), and when it did come out, I didn't get one. Having a contract for a lot of money was not on my books. But in NZ, it was available unlocked and on prepaid. As soon as I found that out, I bought one.
 
Tobor said:
Even if it's not built in, there's no reason that couldn't be added. I have software on my iPhone right now that turns it into a trackpad for my MacBook.
Oh, I have no problem with those being 3rd party or even added in a later firmware. I just really want those among a few other that we probably wont see. If apps can be developed, and I'm sure they could be, this thing would be absolutely amazing.

My mind is racing thinking of all the things that could be done with this..
 
captive said:

I don't doubt that, but do those figures point to them becoming popular for the general public? As smartphones gained popularity, it was inevitable they would increase in number, but just curious as to what portion were non-business related.

I basically never even cared about mobile internet until the iPhone came out (not saying it was the iPhone - all likelihood it was just good timing). The Us is different from NZ. In NZ we only had crappy wap for years, subsidised phones were abolished at one point (though I think they've come back), prepaid was very popular, and Nokia rules all.
 
Some more fuel for this rumor-fire :lol

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/24...-com-in-2007-apples-new-tablet-called-islate/
MacRumors said:
With rumors of the Apple tablet reaching new highs, MacRumors has found evidence that Apple acquired the domain name iSlate.com presumably in preparation for the new device.

The iSlate.com domain was originally registered in October 2004 by a company called Eurobox Ltd. It later changed hands to Data Docket, Inc. in 2006. In 2007, however, the domain was transferred to registrar MarkMonitor.com. MarkMonitor handles domain name registrations and trademark protections for many companies, including Apple. As is typical, however, the name of the actual registrant was initially hidden to obscure the identify of the actual owner. Up until this point, one could still easily dismiss all this as a simple coincidence.

However, after further investigation of the domain name registrant history, it seems Apple's name was temporarily exposed as the actual owner of "iSlate.com" for several weeks in late 2007. It was changed back within a few weeks, but MacRumors has found the historic record proving Apple ownership of the iSlate.com domain:

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iSlate.com currently points to no website. Apple is rumored to be announcing an Apple tablet in early 2010 and given this evidence "iSlate" seems a likely candidate for the device's name.

Thanks to Mark Gurman from AppleRejectedMe.com


http://www.tuaw.com/2009/12/25/islate-com-and-the-impending-apple-slate/
TUAW.com said:
As we mentioned earlier, MacRumors reported the discovery from Mark Gurman that Apple apparently bought the islate.com domain name a few years back. This name isn't so shocking when you remember the quote from New York Times executive editor Bill Keller at a meeting on October 26th about the future of digital content in the newspaper business:
"I'm hoping we can get the newsroom more actively involved in the challenge of delivering our best journalism in the form of Times Reader, iPhone apps, WAP, or the impending Apple slate..."
At the time, Apple had been busy meeting with the heads of newspapers and magazines all over the world. Would Steve drop the name to the heads of the publishing industry? I think so. At the very least this will get people to stop calling the Apple tablet the 'iPad'.

Let me say this clearly: Apple would never name the tablet the 'iPad'. It's too similar to 'iPod'. So, everyone, please stop calling it the iPad.

If you want to listen to an interesting talk about the future of digital publishing and distribution, check out the video of Keller's speech below. If you want to jump to the 'impending Apple slate' mention, skip to 8:30.

IMHO, 'iSlate' is a great name, but I want to know what you would call it. Tell us in the comments!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOSkyYNLkuw&feature=player_embedded
 
Tobor said:
It will be called iBook. It's the perfect name, they already own it, and it fits the lineup like a glove.

I pondered this for a while. I thought it would be kinda neat (if it has the reading aspect down). I think it's too close to the MacBook though.
 
mrkgoo said:
I pondered this for a while. I thought it would be kinda neat (if it has the reading aspect down). I think it's too close to the MacBook though.
That's why it fits so well in the lineup.

iPhone , iPod, iBook, MacBook, MacBook Pro.

It bridges the CE and computer lineups, in name and in function.
 
Dear god, Apple do not use "i."
I was really hoping after the Apple TV all their 'i" products would just be [apple logo]TV or [Apple logo]Tablet.

People could still call it whatever they want, of course but it just seems so much better to me.
 
Tobor said:
That's why it fits so well in the lineup.

iPhone , iPod Touch, MacinTouch, MacBook, MacBook Pro.

It bridges the CE and computer lineups, in name and in function.
Adjusted for my dream of a touch mac

iBook is better than islate and itablet though. But then after all these years I've gotten used to iPod so whatver they choose will probably grow on me
 
Charred Greyface said:
Adjusted for my dream of a touch mac

iBook is better than islate and itablet though. But then after all these years I've gotten used to iPod so whatver they choose will probably grow on me
Oh no doubt. They could call it iPoopedmypants and I'm there day 1.
 
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it being called "MacBook Touch". With that name, it would of course need to run a variant of Mac OS X (and not just a version of iPhone OS :lol ).
 
I've always been confused and slightly cynical about something like this. But frankly, with the amount I casually browse the web on my ipod touch, a bigger screen version would be almost perfect for me. The only thing they'd need to sort would be typing, but I'd probably manage with a touch screen keyboard providing I can use my bluetooth mac keyboard for more serious text entry
 
mrklaw said:
I've always been confused and slightly cynical about something like this. But frankly, with the amount I casually browse the web on my ipod touch, a bigger screen version would be almost perfect for me. The only thing they'd need to sort would be typing, but I'd probably manage with a touch screen keyboard providing I can use my bluetooth mac keyboard for more serious text entry

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/12/24/possible_apple_tablet_multi_touch_tactile_keyboard_detailed.html said:
Apple's forthcoming tablet could employ a dynamic surface that gives users tactile feedback when typing in order to identify individual keys, according to a new patent application revealed this week.

Using an "articulating frame," the surface of such a device would create physical bumps or dots for the user to feel when it is in keyboard mode. Those surface features would retract and disappear when the device is not being used to type. It is detailed in an application entitled "Keystroke Tactility Arrangement on a Smooth Touch Surface." It is similar to an application first filed back in 2007.

"The articulating frame may provide key edge ridges that define the boundaries of the key regions or may provide tactile feedback mechanisms within the key regions," the application reads. "The articulating frame may also be configured to cause concave depressions similar to mechanical key caps in the surface."

The tactile feedback keyboard is revealed as one anonymous source told The New York Times that users would be "surprised" how they interact with the tablet.

Another example in the application describes a rigid, non-articulating frame beneath the surface. It would provide higher resistance when pressing away from the key centers, but softer resistance at the center of a virtual key, guiding hands to the proper location.


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The patent notes that pointing and typing require very different needs: Pointing is best on a smooth surface with little friction, while typing is preferred on keys with edges that fingertips can feel. Simply putting Braille-like dots on the 'F' and 'J' keys, as is on most physical keyboards, is not enough, because it does not address alignment issues with outside keys.

Conversely, while placing dots on every single key on a surface would help a user find their location, it would take away the smooth surface necessary for touch controls that users are accustomed to on a glass screen like the iPhone.

The patent aims to offer the best of both worlds with a new device that could dynamically change its surface.

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"Preferably, each key edge comprises one to four distinct bars or Braille-like dots," the application reads. "When constructed in conjunction with a capacitive multi-touch surface, the key edge ridges should separated to accommodate the routing of the drive electrodes, which may take the form of rows, columns, or other configurations."

The system would also intelligently determine when the user wishes to type, and when they intend to use the screen as a pointing device.

"Specifically, the recognition software commands lowering of the frame when lateral sliding gestures or mouse clicking activity chords are detected on the surface," the application states. Alternatively, when homing chords (i.e., placing the fingers on the home row) or asynchronous touches (typing activity) is detected on the surface, the recognition software commands raising of the frame."

Apple filed the Application on Aug. 28, 2009. The invention is credited to Wayne Carl Westerman of San Francisco, Calif.

Another Apple patent application revealed this week deals with a multi-touch controller that uses transparent touch sensors and does not require an opaque surface. The description is included in a patent application entitled "Multipoint Touch Surface Controller."

"While virtually all commercially available touch screen based systems available today provide single point detection only and have limited resolution and speed, other products available today are able to detect multiple touch points," the application reads. "Unfortunately, these products only work on opaque surfaces because of the circuitry that must be placed behind the electrode structure."

The described invention would include drive electronics that stimulate the multi-touch sensor and sensing circuits for reading the sensor in a single integrated package. This is said to be different from some previous multi-touch technology, which has been limited in terms of detectable points due to the size of the detection circuitry.

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The invention, filed for by Apple on Aug. 27, 2009, is credited to Steven P. Hotelling, Christoph H. Krah and Brian Quentin Huppi of California.

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Lets hope :)
 
This thing will not be called the iBook. Jobs has been down on the ebook reader scene for years now. Sure publishing will likely be a major element for this thing but that's in addition to media playing, apps and web browsing. No way will the name focus on books.
 
Jtwo said:
Dear god, Apple do not use "i."
I was really hoping after the Apple TV all their 'i" products would just be [apple logo]TV or [Apple logo]Tablet.

People could still call it whatever they want, of course but it just seems so much better to me.
The fact that Apple TV wasn't named Teleport still saddens me.
 
Dupy said:
This thing will not be called the iBook. Jobs has been down on the ebook reader scene for years now. Sure publishing will likely be a major element for this thing but that's in addition to media playing, apps and web browsing. No way will the name focus on books.

I don't understand why the term book all of a sudden can only mean ebook reading when the entire Mac laptop line has the word book in the name. I'm not buying this argument.
 
Tobor said:
That doesn't seem as impressive as the headline is indicating, and the large bulk of that was business sales. Apple sold 7.4 million phones last quarter alone, and I think we would all agree the vast majority of that was consumer business. So we seem to be at an impasse.
we're not at an impasse, you guys want it both ways. You want to make erroneous claims about iphone bring smart phones out of niche, either they werent niche when iphone launched or they still are.
as for the third quarter sales:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140746/Smartphone_sales_up_13_in_third_quarter
 
tobor said:
That's why it fits so well in the lineup.

iPhone , iPod, iBook, MacBook, MacBook Pro.

It bridges the CE and computer lineups, in name and in function.

Sure, I thought about that too. They already have the trademark and everything. It just seems odd to use the old name. Maybe iBook Touch.


Dupy said:
This thing will not be called the iBook. Jobs has been down on the ebook reader scene for years now. Sure publishing will likely be a major element for this thing but that's in addition to media playing, apps and web browsing. No way will the name focus on books.

Aaah, but Steve Jobs being down on the scene is practically evidence that they're making one. :p Seriously, in Apple Speak, it just means they're not ready to bring one out yet.

Jtwo said:
Dear god, Apple do not use "i."
I was really hoping after the Apple TV all their 'i" products would just be [apple logo]TV or [Apple logo]Tablet.

People could still call it whatever they want, of course but it just seems so much better to me.

True. I liked AppleTV much more than iTV. I think they were calling it the iTV as a working name when they (uncharacteristically) pre announced the AppleTV. I don't know, but I'm guessing they never got the rights to iTV.

Actually, in that vein, they should call it AppleBook (touch). Or Apple Slate (but then, I guess that's not far from Apple iSlate. Disinguishes it as its very own thing. The "i" basically stands for internet. I also think that the crazy 'edged' keys on a touchscreen is kind of wild. To wild to be practical. I don't think it really solves a problem. The problem with virtual keyboards is that there's no feedback. Having edges to the keys means little. Having a 'click' sound actually is pretty close, and the rest is just a feel for pushing a key. Ultimately, I don't think the edges are necessary. Most likely, the surprise will just be software based.

Where the iPhone pioneered multitouch on a small surface (and brought to the touchpad), I think the big deal will be the gestures they've come up with for a larger device. Gestures that use unique motions with the thumb, and with two hands. This has been unnecessary in the past because you couldn't fit two hands on the device. Of course, you need to hold the device, so maybe, as it shows in the lower patens shown above, you have modifiers with the thumb. That sort of thing.
 
captive said:
we're not at an impasse, you guys want it both ways. You want to make erroneous claims about iphone bring smart phones out of niche, either they werent niche when iphone launched or they still are.
as for the third quarter sales:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140746/Smartphone_sales_up_13_in_third_quarter

niche:

d : a specialized market

Which is what the business segment of the phone market is. It might be a large niche but it's still a niche.

Apple brought the smartphone into general consumer territory. Before most smartphones were bought by business for their employees. Most comsumers just waited for smartphone features, like a taking pictures and playing music, to migrate to the 'dumb' cheap phones. Now you look at the studies and the large percentage of teens want and/or are going to get an iPhone i.e. a smartphone. That's a huge change.
 
Karma Kramer said:
So whats the deal here? Is this coming out soon?

There's a media event scheduled for January 26th to announce something. It's assumed they'll announce then and release in the Spring.
 
You know, I'm just pondering the tablet form factor. It can't run Mac OS X, as the buttons, menu words and everything are simply too small. The iPhone OS is more suitable, but it is too simple. I'm guessing it'll be running something in between. A super scaled up version of the iPhone OS. Kind of like a meld between big icons and buttons for finger access, but click and drag mechanics like a desktop os. And of course a ton of multitouch gestures.

A 'dock' on the left hand side that opens folders, or categories of apps, that you can run your left thumb down, and while holding it down with your thumb, you manipulated icons and gestures with your right hand.

My imagination is running wild now. Since this is a large hand held device, the orientation can be changed at will. What if apps can run in small windows that are iPhone-resolution sized windows? It would run iPhone apps natively, but you can run multiples of them at the same time. Do a gesture, and rotate a window, while keeping other windows in a particular orientation. Maybe do another gesture to scale windows up to run them larger. Hold down a 'close' modifier with your left thumb, running apps highlight with a small "X" (a la widgets) to close. While holding down the 'close' modifier, you can swipe fingers to expose all your running apps.

Of course, it runs its own apps too. Way to cash in on the appstore - its own thing, but also runs iPhone apps.
 
how much are high-end tablets these days? i'm assuming the apple one will be at the top price but does anybody have a relative idea?
 
It's probably going to run some iPhone apps.

Apple is preparing to show off a new, larger mobile device with a higher resolution display in January -- probably a version of the Apple tablet we've been hearing about for months -- according to a plugged-in source in the mobile industry.

Apple has been telling some app makers to prepare apps for a demo next month, according to this source. "They've told select developers that as long as they build their apps to support full screen resolution -- rather than a fixed 320x480 -- their apps should run just fine," our source says.
http://www.businessinsider.com/appl...ary-asks-developers-to-get-apps-ready-2009-12
 
numble said:

For sure. I just never really thought about until now. I always just assumed like a giant iPhone. I didn't stop to think that with a larger screen you can really run multiple apps. Imagine a simple iPhone OS, but soup it up with expose, and dashboard-like functions. Think about the dashboard page on Mac OS X, but instead of widgets, you have full apps (and widgets).

Probably this is what people have been dreaming about, so I guess I'm late in getting this 'revelation'. The interface I'm currently imagining really is a bridging device between the iPhone and Laptop computer. Like a computing device but completely different through software and multitouch.

People ask what's the point of a larger iPhone, or a 'touch netback', but the interface in my mind at the moment is nothing really like a desktop OS. It's not about windows with tool bars , or a menubar with text buttons. It's windowed widgets and apps, controllable by multitouch with large buttons attached to the windows. Imagine using two fingers to manipulate these windows - that's the kind of interface that will provide a completely different experience than an desktop computer. So much so, that it is its own category. Currently, notebooks are just tiny computers. A tablet computer with an OS that is designed for multitouch (stress MULTI) is something new.

Computers are generally controlled by a pointing device that arbitrarily controls a single pointer on screen. A computing device that is free of that limitation could be very powerful, and certainly provide a new experience.
 
You mean run multiple iPhone apps on the same screen simultaneously? I don't think that will work on a 7" screen. 10" maybe.

A version of Expose would work beautifully though.
 
Tobor said:
You mean run multiple iPhone apps on the same screen simultaneously? I don't think that will work on a 7" screen. 10" maybe.

A version of Expose would work beautifully though.

I've got nothing better to do, so I've spent about 30 minutes playing around with ideas for a multitouch iphone tablet. I know this makes me sound like a nerdy fanboy, but whatever.

At 7", it has the resolution of 4 iphones. In my sketches, you can definitely run at least two apps at 'full size', but depends on your orientation.

In my version, holding your left thumb at the side of the screen brings up (fade) 3 circular buttons (in design they are black with white edges, a la the 'x' when you remove apps). They are "+" (run app), two overlapping squares (like the multiple tab icon in mobile safari - move and resize apps), and 'x' (close apps).

When you mover your left thumb over the "+", a strip appears on the bottom a la Dashboard widgets. A single row of app icons appear along the bottom, behind a metal perforated sheet (just like in dashboard or the iPhone dock). Scroll through apps - and drag an app you want to run into the main screen area. As you do, wavy lines appear like in widgets, and the app resizes to default iPhone size and starts running.

If you ever move your left thumb to the 'two squares' button, the screen dims and highlights your running apps. Circles appear in the four corners of the apps. YOu can use these to shrink or enlarger, or rotate the running apps. This is how you can have even more than just 2 or 3 apps running on screen. Not sure if touch controls can scale with a window like that, but let's just assume Apple has some magic and it just works. Naturally, if you rotate an app to be portrait or landscape, it tells that app to do whatever it normally does when you rotate the iPhone - being aware of the current orientation of your tablet device.

Also tap and drag to reposition apps. Double tap to return to default size.

If you ever hold the bottom button on your left thumb ("x"), little circles appear at the top left of running apps with an x to allow you to close.

Some other things need to be there, such as quick apps (maybe a way to 'drop' app icons onto the desk area for quick access), as well as some stuff to show you information (battery, time, connections etc).

Man, I have too much time on my hands.
 
mrkgoo said:
I've got nothing better to do, so I've spent about 30 minutes playing around with ideas for a multitouch iphone tablet. I know this makes me sound like a nerdy fanboy, but whatever.

At 7", it has the resolution of 4 iphones. In my sketches, you can definitely run at least two apps at 'full size', but depends on your orientation.

In my version, holding your left thumb at the side of the screen brings up (fade) 3 circular buttons (in design they are black with white edges, a la the 'x' when you remove apps). They are "+" (run app), two overlapping squares (like the multiple tab icon in mobile safari - move and resize apps), and 'x' (close apps).

When you mover your left thumb over the "+", a strip appears on the bottom a la Dashboard widgets. A single row of app icons appear along the bottom, behind a metal perforated sheet (just like in dashboard or the iPhone dock). Scroll through apps - and drag an app you want to run into the main screen area. As you do, wavy lines appear like in widgets, and the app resizes to default iPhone size and starts running.

If you ever move your left thumb to the 'two squares' button, the screen dims and highlights your running apps. Circles appear in the four corners of the apps. YOu can use these to shrink or enlarger, or rotate the running apps. This is how you can have even more than just 2 or 3 apps running on screen. Not sure if touch controls can scale with a window like that, but let's just assume Apple has some magic and it just works.

Also tap and drag to reposition apps.

If you ever hold the bottom button on your left thumb ("x"), little circles appear at the top left of running apps with an x to allow you to close.

Some other things need to be there, such as quick apps (maybe a way to 'drop' app icons onto the desk area for quick access), as well as some stuff to show you information (battery, time, connections etc).

Man, I have too much time on my hands.
is this you?
 
btkadams said:

Lol.

I guess I asked for that.

Point is, such a layout shows how iPhone stuff could work, while at the same time offering whatever it is that is special about it (books, magazines, exclusive large apps, whatever). The device then does NOT approach being a replacement for a desktop, as it doesn't really run desktop apps, but instead provides a different kind of experience - and not a lesser one either, as multitouch will be a new experience for such a larger device.
 
Tobor said:
I don't understand why the term book all of a sudden can only mean ebook reading when the entire Mac laptop line has the word book in the name. I'm not buying this argument.

Because "_Book" is legacy naming from the '90s and they actually do open and close like a book. Why create any sort of confusion by adding "_Book" to a tablet when they're likely going in a direction not solely focused on books? Of course I have no idea but odds are it won't be called iBook.

And now it looks like iSlate is even more plausible: http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/25/apple-islate-trademark-and-what-is-a-magic-slate/.
 
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