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The Dark Knight Rises (Batman 3) - No Riddler

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nah guys it'll be this

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Or, in light on bringing things full circle as Oldman mentioned, Bruce hangs it up, has a kid with Selina. They take their kid to the movies, but are both gunned down outside it, leaving the kid an orphan. Feeling responsible for their death and filled with rage, he travels the world studying the criminal mind before coming home to Gotham to become
a dentist
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brianjones said:
he salutes his dad's grave and then appears to commit suicide but it turns out his dad is still alive and then his dad dies from foxdie
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But not before they murder Alfred, now a vegetable in a wheel chair, who it turns out was the original Joker. That jewel thief in Burma? That was Alfred.
 
Solo said:
But not before they murder Alfred, now a vegetable in a wheel chair, who it turns out was the original Joker. That jewel thief in Burma? That was Alfred.
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TDKR definitely needs more epic Alfred stories.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
TDKR definitely needs more epic Alfred stories.
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He's way more helpful than Harry Osborn's butler. If Harry Osborn's butler was in TDK he would give Bruce the letter from Rachel lol. He'd probably read it out aloud to him.
 
TDKR should start with young alfred, on an S.A.S mission in Yemen. I don't know why, but it'd look cool as fuck.
 
Solo said:
Or, in light on bringing things full circle as Oldman mentioned, Bruce hangs it up, has a kid with Selina. They take their kid to the movies, but are both gunned down outside it, leaving the kid an orphan. Feeling responsible for their death and filled with rage, he travels the world studying the criminal mind before coming home to Gotham to become
a dentist
.
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I honestly would love if Nolan had the balls to do this, but without seeing where their kid ended up...now that would bring the trilogy around full circle and piss off fanboys everywhere..and also be very entertaining.
 
I, for one, support the notion of coming back to the universe in 10+ years and get Dark Knight Returns. It'd continue the new dumbass naming convention and we'd get a probably bat-shit insane Bale the more the years pass.







Dakota Fanning as Carrie Kelly kplzthnxbye
 
A Batman inc ending would be hilarious...or they could do the reverse and have Bruce Wayne 'die' and Batman do his thing full time. Joseph Gordon Levitt's is Rutger Hauer's character's son and becomes the new face of Wayne industries. Wait, why is that so familiar?
 
pulga said:
I, for one, support the notion of coming back to the universe in 10+ years and get Dark Knight Returns. It'd continue the new dumbass naming convention and we'd get a probably bat-shit insane Bale the more the years pass.
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What's wrong with the naming convention? The names have significance, it's not like Nolan just decided to switch it from Batman to Dark Knight on a whim. In Begins, it really is the start of the "Batman" legend in Gotham whereas in Dark Knight it starts with him being an established person, a "Dark Knight" who has grew into more than simply a guy in a bat suit
 
Kam said:
I think Bruce accepting Gotham needs Batman over his needs for a normal life, and his redemption in the eyes of Gotham, would work best for the end.

In Batman Begins, he's very much driven to take up the mantle of bringing justice to Gotham. His persona of playboy Bruce Wayne is there to keep some semblance of a normal life. But it's not really him and he knows it. As a character, he knows who he is and why he's doing what he's doing. His life struggle brings him that iron will.

In The Dark Knight, he's a confused person. He's no longer as sure of himself and he's clinging onto Rachel to feel a sense of normalcy. Joker pushes him to the edge in his quest for justice. Rachel dies which ends that link he was grasping. Harvey Dent also dies and the goal he'd been striving for nearly collapses. Mentally and physically, he was pushed to the brink. Now it's not necessarily true that Joker won, since Gotham proved him wrong, and Batman made himself the scapegoat after Harvey's death. But Joker did win against Batman in the sense that Bruce is broken in this movie. He's desperate, conflicted, and no longer as resolute with his will as he once was. Alfred sees this also. As a character, Bruce was not ready for what he faced in the hands of Joker.

The conflict for his character is about his needs as a man vs. Gotham's needs. Does he want to be a normal man or the saviour of Gotham? He took up the cowl in the first place because he didn't want to stand aside while Gotham lost itself further and further to crime. Who's to say it'll be an easy thing to let go of Batman? Will he really be able to step aside, even if it's detrimental to his health?

Gotham needs Batman. So does Bruce. However, he also wanted a normal life.

I think the way the trilogy has been built, a bittersweet ending would serve it well. Bruce coming to terms with the fact that he won't be able to simply hang up the cowl, and also keeping the conviction of putting Gotham's needs above his desire for a normal life. It's not the happy ending his character deserves but that's the point of Batman, I feel. He'll make the sacrifice that others won't. Most importantly however, to mature, he needs to come to steadfast conclusion on his path and that's what TDKR should be about. He's been pushed to the brink. Time to break him and build him back up.

He says in Batman Begins that no one will ever have to say thank you and that he needs to become more than a man. If anything, TDK showed that he is still very much just a man and he has his limits. An admirable man but a man nonetheless. For TDKR, why not test his beliefs and resolve and, by the end, give him his redemption that turns him into the matured and badass Batman that he needs to become. It'll leave no logical growth for his character by resolving his internal struggle but it will also close the book on the trilogy tidily.

Honestly, I'm really excited for this movie. I can't see them not focusing on Bruce. They have to in order to bring the trilogy to a satisfying conclusion. I'm hoping this eclipses both BB and TDK.
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I love love love your post. I really hope this is the direction they do go in.

I go back to the line Rachel says in her letter "I no longer think there will be a time where you don't need Batman"

He lost his parents. Lost his love. Lost Dent who he was hoping would help him leave Batman.

I want this movie to end with him realizing that he is truly Batman now. Nothing else. Bittersweet in that it ends with him having no normal life, no sense of happiness, and nothing to live for as Bruce.

I say that also because it seems to soon for him to just end. At least in the time span they represent in these movies. Begins he is a young man. TDK is literally months after BB and he is just becoming Batman. At the end of TDK he has become more of a villain to the general public. He can't then in another few months end it, hang it up, and or die. It should end with him becoming the Batman he will be for the rest of his life.

That's my hope at least. The WB execs supposedly not liking the ending would imply something else since they can't seemingly make a direct sequel. But I am hoping that is more from Nolan saying there is no way he does another Batman and then them needing to find a whole new cast.
 
My prediction:

Rises ends with Batman "dying" but Bruce living on. Batman lives forever on in Gotham as a symbol/legend, with Catwoman following in the vigilante footsteps, while Bruce takes on a more public role of helping Gotham in the way that his father and Dent did.

That's what (in Oldman's words) Bruce "learns about himself." He wanted Dent to be his replacement because he's a hero with a face, and doesn't hide behind a mask, but Bruce realizes that he can now do that himself -- just like his father did.
 
It's from Neil Gaiman's two-issue story Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader? It was a hypothetical story in which Batman views his own funeral, and several explanations with how he died. It was one big homage to the entire Batman history. It was pretty good.
 
Summary Man said:
I was just about to ask the same thing. Was this an actual storyline in the Batman comics? That Alfred was the Joker all along?
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"Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" by Neil Gaiman
 
It'd be even crazier if Commissioner Gordon was the Joker all along.


And he was doing it in the first place because he had a mancrush on Batman.
 
They will probably release the first screenshot of Hardy as Bane at comicon and the fan reaction would be either extremely positive or extremely negative...there's no middle ground.
 
2008 with the Jokerface attendees flooding the streets, so great.

TDK *still* has the greatest viral marketing I've ever seen. by a long shot.
 
DMczaf said:
Rises is filming in NYC in November....
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That's a long ass ways away. Superman is filming in Chicago this summer. Last time TDK filmed starting in like May through the Summer 07. First footage in August at Chicago Comic Con, first trailer by December. So considering that schedule; first trailer is a year away probably? They're really shooting for a Summer 2012 release date?
 
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um, what movie will the trailer be attached to this time? the only reason I accepted my friend's invitation to watch I Am Legend was to watch the TDK trailer.

and what was that piece of hsit state kept holding up the viral campaign?
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
2008 with the Jokerface attendees flooding the streets, so great.

TDK *still* has the greatest viral marketing I've ever seen. by a long shot.
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and it actually paid off with us getting to see the IMAX version a couple days early for free. I drove 2.5 hours from Austin to Houston to watch it.
 
J2 Cool said:
That's a long ass ways away. Superman is filming in Chicago this summer. Last time TDK filmed starting in like May through the Summer 07. First footage in August at Chicago Comic Con, first trailer by December. So considering that schedule; first trailer is a year away probably? They're really shooting for a Summer 2012 release date?
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It starts filming in May. NY is just one of the places they're shooting, and that's in November. Over the summer, they'll be in LA, Pittsburgh, the UK, and Romania.
 
Blader5489 said:
It starts filming in May. NY is just one of the places they're shooting, and that's in November. Over the summer, they'll be in LA, Pittsburgh, the UK, and Romania.
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Well according to some sources they shot some stuff in NYC this past weekend as well.

Ha and that thread from 2007 was amazing. I still remember that day which I refer to in that post....went to see the Simpsons movie, had no idea the teaser would be attached (never even had seen the teaser), and then i jizzed in my pants when I heard the Joker laugh + Batman theme.
 
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