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Anticitizen One said:
The Pixar story's are a bit too bland for my taste and im sorry but CGI makes everything look empty and lifeless (The nonanimated CG films like Beowulf look even worse).

Pixar movie's are only good to watch once but don't hold up on repeat viewings.
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I don't see any more of the "empty and lifeless" in pixar's CG than in disney's 2D animated films.

Also I find it hard to take anyone seriously who thinks rehashed fairytales and fables are not bland.

I love 2D animation/hand drawn just as much as the other person, but I would not let nostalgia blur my senses.
 
PhoenixDark said:
yawn

I knew to be worried the minute the trailer began with a self-congratulatory masturbation session/montage of past Disney animated flicks. The animation looks great but the story and dialogue sounds very boring - and not funny.
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Disney has been doing those "self-congratulatory" montages since as far back as I can remember. (im 24 now)

They've been doing it since at least Micheal Eisner became CEO in 1984 and I wouldn't be surprised if they did ti before then.
 
Anticitizen One said:
Disney has been doing those "self-congratulatory" montages since as far back as I can remember. (im 24 now)

They've been doing it since at least Micheal Eisner became CEO in 1984 and I wouldn't be surprised if they did ti before then.
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Well I don't agree with PD on this, but your excuse for it doesn't make it any better. It's still self-masturbatory.
 
MorisUkunRasik said:
Pixar > Lion King > rest of disney animation
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90s Disney Films > Batman The Animated Series > 90s Disney TV shit (Darkwing Duck and Gargoyles FTW) > Real Ghostbusters > Pixar

Search your fealings you know this to be true!
 
It's not 3D. Is that the only reason to champion this movie? Not that it's a bad reason because the animation is great. It may be a bit shallow though. I can't really judge it too much other than from the pitch of the trailer, which is: "ok, so it's a fairy tale...WAIT! an ironic take on a fairy tale, and...it's 2D! yeah! Also, it's set in New Orleans, just because."

The animation is great though. If it's a good movie then I'll enjoy it, but I haven't been longing the return of Disney 2D when Pixar has been putting out brilliant movies almost constantly for a while now (Cars and A Bug's Life can get fucked though. Real talk.)
 
The fuck is Ronaldinho doing in the film?

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Anticitizen One said:
90s Disney Films > Batman The Animated Series > 90s Disney TV shit (Darkwing Duck and Gargoyles FTW) > Real Ghostbusters > Pixar

Search your fealings you know this to be true!
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90s College Rock > Brad Bird films > Batman The Animated Series > Pixar without Brad Bird > Duck Tales > The Real Ghostbusters toy that got modified into a noise machine called the Ghost Box > the time I saw Ten Grand at an art gallery > Emperor's New Groove > First time I had sex with a sex with a girl who had a pig face > The Duck Tales Movie > A Shark's Tale > 90s 2D animation movies that aren't Emperor's New Groove (was that 99 or later? doesn't matter) > your face > your mom > your face after making out with your mother > your mother in the morning.
 
Linkzg said:
It's not 3D. Is that the only reason to champion this movie? Not that it's a bad reason because the animation is great. It may be a bit shallow though. I can't really judge it too much other than from the pitch of the trailer, which is: "ok, so it's a fairy tale...WAIT! an ironic take on a fairy tale, and...it's 2D! yeah! Also, it's set in New Orleans, just because."

The animation is great though. If it's a good movie then I'll enjoy it, but I haven't been longing the return of Disney 2D when Pixar has been putting out brilliant movies almost constantly for a while now (Cars and A Bug's Life can get fucked though. Real talk.)
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Its from the team that made "Little Mermaid", "Aladdin", and "The Great Mouse Detective" with John Lasseter (from Pixar fame) overseeing. How can it not be good??
 
I dunno, I thought it looked like a fun movie too.

Everyone is always is so angsty before a movie comes out, then people do a 180 after they've seen it. (Unrelated: but that old Dark Knight thread was hilarious). Who knows, maybe this will suck and I'll be wrong this time. :lol
 
Wow at all the Pixar hate. I absolute love and adore Disney 2D animation and I'm excited to see something new in the 2D area since the last good thing to come was Lilo and Stitch, but come on shitting on Pixar to do so? Pixar has been amazing in their animation, art, and stories. It's all the other CG studios that you need to be shitting on who don't stack up to Disney or Pixar.
 
i haven't seen any pixar movie yet with singing scenes that match up to the ones that are in Little Mermaid, Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. Cause of that, I still find Disney films > Pixar films.

Under the Sea ftw, bitches!
 
hydragonwarrior said:
i haven't seen any pixar movie yet with singing scenes that match up to the ones that are in Little Mermaid, Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. Cause of that, I still find Disney films > Pixar films.

Under the Sea ftw, bitches!
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Under the Sea wasn't even Little Mermaid's best song. And there has been a musical sequence in a Pixar film that surpasses all of the 90s Disney ones, though it lacks singing.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Wow at all the Pixar hate. I absolute love and adore Disney 2D animation and I'm excited to see something new in the 2D area since the last good thing to come was Lilo and Stitch, but come on shitting on Pixar to do so? Pixar has been amazing in their animation, art, and stories. It's all the other CG studios that you need to be shitting on who don't stack up to Disney or Pixar.
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My problem with Pixar is that every movie is the same when you think about it. There always "buddy flicks" They figured it worked in Toy Story so they kept the formula going. Ironically, it was Jeffrey Katzenberg (head of 90s disney animation) who told Pixar to make Toy Story a buddy flick and they ran with it.

Buzz & Woody
Mike & Sully
Dory & marlin
Lightning & Mater
remy & luigi
Wall-E & Eve
old guy & boy scout


How many times are they going to use the same plot over and over??
 
Anticitizen One said:
Yea thats what everyone feals like after seeing "CARS" :lol
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So Pixar has one non-great film of its nine, hell I'll even give you two just for shits and giggles, and yet you run around praising the heavens for Disney in the 90s, which was like three greats and six okay or bad films.

Look, I'm psyched for The Princess and the Frog, but you're an idiot.

Anticitizen One said:
My problem with Pixar is that every movie is the same when you think about it. There always "buddy flicks" They figured it worked in Toy Story so they kept the formula going. Ironically, it was Jeffrey Katzenberg (head of 90s disney animation) who told Pixar to make Toy Story a buddy flick and they ran with it.

Buzz & Woody
Mike & Sully
Dory & marlin
Lightning & Mater
remy & luigi
Wall-E & Eve
old guy & boy scout


How many times are they going to use the same plot over and over??
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Yup, you know 90s Disney, a bastion for originality :lol Musicals plus talking animal sidekicks, all the same right?
 
AniHawk said:
Under the Sea wasn't even Little Mermaid's best song. And there has been a musical sequence in a Pixar film that surpasses all of the 90s Disney ones, though it lacks singing.
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You should never quote anything by him or at least right after him for now I feel dizzy.
 
I think partly why Aladdin and The Lion King were so endeared to me as a 9 or 10 yrs old boy was that it came after so many 'princess' movies. And I feel that we are getting back to that era with The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast. Ghibli, apart from Princess Mononoke, Porco Rosso) also have mostly girls as their leads, while Pixar always have male protagonists and it looks like it'll be that way until The Bear and the Bow. I'm not sure how it ends up this way, but it feels like there is someone up there deciding whether it should be a boy's film or a girl's film looking at a bunch on marketing data.
 
Anticitizen One said:
My problem with Pixar is that every movie is the same when you think about it. There always "buddy flicks" They figured it worked in Toy Story so they kept the formula going. Ironically, it was Jeffrey Katzenberg (head of 90s disney animation) who told Pixar to make Toy Story a buddy flick and they ran with it.

Buzz & Woody
Mike & Sully
Dory & marlin
Lightning & Mater
remy & luigi
Wall-E & Eve
old guy & boy scout


How many times are they going to use the same plot over and over??
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I'll take buddy movies over retard comic relief any day. Pixar flicks being buddy movies never ruined the film. But retard comic relief ruined Hunchback of Notre Dame.
 
Branduil said:
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Most Pixar films boil down to eccentric, independent thinking social outcasts rebelling against a singular minded, boring society. They play around with the concept a lot (Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story) but it boils down to the same theme. And by the end the society realizes said outcast isn't so bad afterall
 
Anticitizen One said:
My problem with Pixar is that every movie is the same when you think about it. There always "buddy flicks" They figured it worked in Toy Story so they kept the formula going. Ironically, it was Jeffrey Katzenberg (head of 90s disney animation) who told Pixar to make Toy Story a buddy flick and they ran with it.

Buzz & Woody
Mike & Sully
Dory & marlin
Lightning & Mater
remy & luigi
Wall-E & Eve
old guy & boy scout


How many times are they going to use the same plot over and over??
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How many Disney animated films are about a girl falling in love with a guy? Disney doesn't have their Disney Princess line for nothing....

Snow White
Sleeping Beauty
Cinderella
Aladdin
The Little Mermaid
Pocahontas
Beauty and the Beast
and the list goes on....
 
Anticitizen One said:
My problem with Pixar is that every movie is the same when you think about it. There always "buddy flicks" They figured it worked in Toy Story so they kept the formula going. Ironically, it was Jeffrey Katzenberg (head of 90s disney animation) who told Pixar to make Toy Story a buddy flick and they ran with it.

Buzz & Woody
Mike & Sully
Dory & marlin
Lightning & Mater
remy & luigi
Wall-E & Eve
old guy & boy scout


How many times are they going to use the same plot over and over??
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People have friends. It isn't foreign to me. Is it foreign to you?
 
Anticitizen One said:
My problem with Pixar is that every movie is the same when you think about it. There always "buddy flicks" They figured it worked in Toy Story so they kept the formula going. Ironically, it was Jeffrey Katzenberg (head of 90s disney animation) who told Pixar to make Toy Story a buddy flick and they ran with it.

Buzz & Woody
Mike & Sully
Dory & marlin
Lightning & Mater
remy & luigi
Wall-E & Eve
old guy & boy scout


How many times are they going to use the same plot over and over??
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The fact that you are non-ironically complaining about Pixar films being formulaic while praising Disney ones makes my brain explode.
 
Timbuktu said:
I think partly why Aladdin and The Lion King were so endeared to me as a 9 or 10 yrs old boy was that it came after so many 'princess' movies. And I feel that we are getting back to that era with The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast.
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So many princess movies? The two you named were the only ones for the 30 years preceding Aladdin.
 
I think its silly to have a 2D / 3D war. They both have their merits, and neither should take the place of the other. Frankly, I'm just happy to have traditional animated movies again.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Most Pixar films boil down to eccentric, independent thinking social outcasts rebelling against a singular minded, boring society. They play around with the concept a lot (Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story) but it boils down to the same theme. And by the end the society realizes said outcast isn't so bad afterall
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If "Most Pixar films" means Toy Story and Wall-E, then yeah. Right on.

Yazan said:
The fuck is Ronaldinho doing in the film?

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Dan said:
So many princess movies? The two you named were the only ones for the 30 years preceding Aladdin.
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Ya, there were more princess movies in the 90s than in the 30 years before that period. Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, and Mulan are all considered princesses in the Disney family.
 
Dan said:
So many princess movies? The two you named were the only ones for the 30 years preceding Aladdin.
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Exactly. Little Mermaid was considered a huge breath of fresh air back in 1989 after a decade of films like Black Cauldron, Oliver & Company, and The Great Mouse Detective. Preceeded by a decade of movies that were entirely based around animals (Aristocats, Fox & the hound, robin hood, etc.)

Look I will be honest here, the reason I hate CG is because CG killed Star Wars :(
 
Dan said:
So many princess movies? The two you named were the only ones for the 30 years preceding Aladdin.
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selective memory, I think, but that was when I grew up I suppose and Disney movies with princesses does seem to be better remembered, with Snow White and Beauty & The Beast being so important in kick starting their respective eras in animations.
 
Anticitizen One said:
Exactly. Little Mermaid was considered a huge breath of fresh air back in 1989 after a decade of films like Black Cauldron, Oliver & Company, and The Great Mouse Detective. Preceeded by a decade of movies that were entirely based around animals (Aristocats, Fox & the hound, robin hood, etc.)

Look I will be honest here, the reason I hate CG is because CG killed Star Wars :(
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CG didn't kill Star Wars; Lucas killed Star Wars. In fact The Clone Wars is all CG and it's actually pretty good since Lucas isn't as involved in it.
 
I hate this whole Pixar vs. Disney argument. Both companies have made incredible movies and I'm just happy Disney might finally get their act together with Princess & The Frog, Rapunzel and King of the Elves.

Same with the whole 2D vs. 3D thing. Both mediums have their strenghts and weaknesses and they can co-exist nicely. One doesn't have to be better than another since you can make great movies with either medium.
 
Marty Chinn said:
CG didn't kill Star Wars; Lucas killed Star Wars. In fact The Clone Wars is all CG and it's actually pretty good since Lucas isn't as involved in it.
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The shows decent. It would be better without those god damn retarded "battle droids" and made up charecters like ashoka.

I try so hard to forget the past ten years but that Lucas he just won't let me forget.
 
The Incredibles single-handedly owns the shit out of any Disney 2D film. It's as close to "objectively better" as a film can be over others: the dialogue and wit are more nuanced, the plot better paced, the characters infinitely more interesting than those cardboard cutout Disney stand-bys. It's not about 2-D animation against 3-D animation, it's merely that Pixar's films are BETTER that the Disney movies of the early nineties. If Aladdin were 3-D CGI and the Incredibles was traditionally animated, my opinion would not change. Disney's base material are fairy tales, among the simplest stories we have as a culture. There's nothing there that interests me.

Miyazaki, on the other hand...
 
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