Anticitizen One
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Feep said:
Brad Bird's work on The Simpsons and The Iron Giant was alot better than his Pixar fare IMO.
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Brad Bird's work on The Simpsons and The Iron Giant was alot better than his Pixar fare IMO.
Marty Chinn
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Anticitizen One said:
What's wrong with Asoka? I think she's pretty crucial to the overall storyline because I'm willing to bet she dies by the end of the series and it's gonna fuck Anakin up badly. The ending is going to be dark.
Outside of a few lame episodes, and I wish they would mostly drop Jar Jar, I think the series has had a solid first season and I'm honestly surprised at the brutality involved with the show that supposedly is for kids. People die in a brutal manner and I feel that they don't pull punches when it comes to things like this.
I'm a huge huge Star Wars fan and I think some of the stuff gets a worse rep than it deserves given how cheesy and poorly written the original trilogy was but we're all blinded by nostalgia for the most part to see it. I can understand where people are coming from though.
But getting back to the main topic, I can't believe you blame you're complete hatred of CG cuz of all this.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Damn the hate, this looks fun.
I dont know if I have the balls to see it at the cinema though.
I dont know if I have the balls to see it at the cinema though.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Feep said:No offense, but what are you, 14? If a movie looks good to you, go fucking see it.
Never mind, offense totally intended.
If I was 14 i'd go see it,
at 21 it looks a bit....off.
Also what part of your post could offend me?
Calling you immature, I suppose.B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
You really care, at age 21, that others might see you go watch a Disney animated flick? Do they profess to hate Aladdin and Lion King too? C'mon, it's a little ridiculous. Be sure never to buy ice cream from an ice cream truck, or ride a bike, or hula hoop, either.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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And about your other points.Feep said:
ice cream from an ice cream truck- no, im vegan
ride a bike - no, I like to walk
hula hoop - just no
I know its a little over sensitive but I still would feel realy odd going to see this.
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
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MilesWebber
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AlternativeUlster said:
FunkyMunkey
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GCX said:
I was trying to stay out of this thread but the description for that clip:
"WALL-E "Spacewalk" scene. One of the most genuinely beautiful scenes in all of cinema. "
is pathetic. Either that person has seen a total of 5 movies in his or her life, or they think WAY WAY too highly of the film. I know there are Pixar fanboys out there but jesus, talk about delusional.
But PatF looks great!
EDIT: Delusionalllllllllllllllllllll
Roi said:
:lol So good.
I don´t think you could only enjoy 2d or 3d movies and have to pick sides. It´s about good vs bad movies and BOTH Pixar and Disney have a lot of really good ones.
But this one, I don´t know. The animation of the frog bothered me and at some points I really wanted to punch him in the face. This super-deforming stuff (when he gets hit with the book), I really hate it.
But hey, maybe it´ll be good. I disliked the first trailer of Ratatouille and loved the final movie.
MilesWebber
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Roi said:
same director....but you knew that.
FunkyMunkey
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HUELEN10 said:
"Thought so"? Really? I'm sensing some emotional displacement in you.
You know what the phrase "in all of cinema" covers, right?
Branduil said:
Nah, Wall-E was a good movie.
Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
Ya, I have to agree with others; why can't this be one of the most genuinely beautiful scenes in all of cinema?
Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
And you understand what the phrase "one of" means right?
Diatribe1974
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Anticitizen One said:
lulz. I think ya need to talk to your doctor & have your meds changed. You're delusional!
FunkyMunkey
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Marty Chinn said:
It's not even close to being on that level. It's cute at best.
beautiful
Adjective
1. being very attractive to look at
2. highly enjoyable; very pleasant
1.) If you think that scene is one of the most attractive in all of cinema, my first post applies to you.
2.) If you think that scene is one of the most enjoyable or pleasant in all of cinema, my first post applies to you. Either that or you are way too connected to robots and cgi and have distanced yourself from humanity.
HUELEN10 said:
Yeah, uh, you can stop with the self-confidence boosters. Just makes you look sad.
HUELEN10
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FunkyMunkey said:
This is the finaly nail on your coffin. There are 3 main definitions for humanity.
1.all human beings collectively; the human race; humankind.
2.the quality or condition of being human; human nature.
3.the quality of being humane; kindness; benevolence.
I hereby use definitions 2 and 3 for this case. The scene "Define Dancing" explicitly shows human nature, and if it isn't clear to you, it can be elaborated upon. It quite clearly shows kindness as well.
Confidence boosters? The only one who has tried anything of the sort is you yourself. You have been beaten at your own game, I suggest you do not solidify to it yourself by using said boosters.
Uh, I don't really see your point here. Wall-E is probably the most "human" character Pixar has created so far. Every human being can relate to Wall-E's need to be loved so I don't think liking that scene has anything to do with "distancing yourself from humanity". It's almost the complete opposite.FunkyMunkey said:
Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
I find it was very pleasant and highly enjoyable. Why does the fact that it was robots and not humans have ANYTHING to do with a scene being beautiful. It was about the context, the visual cinematography, the music blended in with it that all brings it into a scene that was beautiful when you put it all together. It was a moment of innocence and bliss that stands as one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen and I have seen thousands of movies in my lifetime including many that are considered the best movies of all time, to which I typically think they are. I don't consider myself a film snob, but movies has been a main interest and hobby of mine since I was a child.
You on the otherhand haven't justified why it isn't a beautiful scene and why it cannot be one of the most beautiful scenes of all cinema. You haven't even given counter examples of what you find are beautiful scenes and just try to come off as a snob without backing up any sort of claim. In fact the simple fact that you try say because it is a robot or that because it is CG shows that you're not mature or very narrow in your viewpoint. Neither should hinder the fact that a scene is beautiful.
pizzaguysrevenge
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Thread officially derailed?
While we're off track, I just want to say that Remy's passion for food has always been more interesting than WALL-E's passion for Eve.
While we're off track, I just want to say that Remy's passion for food has always been more interesting than WALL-E's passion for Eve.
FunkyMunkey
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HUELEN10 said:
Using a video game character and persona to argue a point about a Pixar movie was really your coffin's "final nail" before you even started. I'll take a gander at your post, though.
HUELEN10 said:
Point: Putting this at the top of one of the most beautiful cgi scenes ever is fine. But in all of cinema? There is nothing spectacularly special enough about it to place it that high.
And I was speaking of humanity in a "beauty of humans doing humane things > beauty of robots in space" sense.
HUELEN10 said:
Hmmmmm, you're assuming that calling someone out on their horrible opinion (that they state as fact) is somehow boosting my confidence? It really doesn't, at all.
Congratulations on assuming that I'm that sad of a human being, though.
Marty Chinn
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pizzaguysrevenge said:
Too bad Linguini's passion for Colette was painfully less interesting than both of those. That was the achille's heel of Ratatouille for me.
FunkyMunkey
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Marty Chinn said:
I'm really saying that it's not the robots or cgi that don't make this scene one of the most beautiful in all of cinema, it's the scene itself. The robots and cgi just don't help.
And I believe people haven't seen enough movies if this takes the cake for them.
EDIT: priorities! :lol
HUELEN10
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Wait, are you saying then that if it is one of the most beautiful cgi scenes ever, it can never compete with non cgi-stuff? The only difference is the medium of creation, it is still a film. Is this a bias of some sort? Seriously, I ask.FunkyMunkey said:
Fair enough, but next time be more clear.
No one was ever stating anything as fact, after all it is ALL opinion. Hell, that is what this whole thread is! No one said you are said either.
EDIT: You made a post of it NOT being a CGI bias. I stand corrected.
Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
Given the context of what was going on, how the cinematography and choreography was planned out, and the music that put it all together, I say it is and you ignored the rest of my post rather than addressing it.
Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
How many is enough movies? How many movies have you seen? Why not describe in detail why the scene is not beautiful given the context, the cinematography and the music? It's the whole package. Why haven't you explained what some of the most beautifl scenes in all of cinema are? Why are you avoiding this?
FunkyMunkey
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HUELEN10 said:
No way :lol. I've seen beautiful ideas and emotions in quite a few things.
HUELEN10 said:
IMO, people who are self-gratified by degrading others in any way are sad people
.I just guess I wasn't even remotely attached to the movie as much as you guys. Wall-E was very fun, and I completely understood the message, the emotion, etc. It just didn't grip and hold me too much.
Marty Chinn said:
I'm avoiding this because you've asked me 18 questions in a row and it's 4am here. I also don't appear to care as much as you about the topic (not saying that's a good thing by any means). The only thing that irked me was the youtube description.
edit: All this and another "day 1" here for UP and almost every other Pixar movie/dvd release.
Day 1 for Princess and the Frog as well, ha. The topic's topic.
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Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
You're the one making bold statements about people not seeing enough movies and making claims it's not beautiful without quantifying your stance by showing what is an example. Maybe you shouldn't make such bold claims if you're not willing to back them up. All you did was give a vague answer and the ironic thing is:
FunkyMunkey said:IMO, people who are self-gratified by degrading others in any way are sad people
FunkyMunkey said:
Simple question. How many movies is enough and how many movies have you seen? Shouldn't take much to answer that....
FunkyMunkey
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HUELEN10 said:
Of course *shake*.
Marty Chinn said:
*sigh* That second quote isn't applicable to the first. You're drawing connections where they don't exist, to a post that wasn't directed towards you.
And I don't know how many movies. How many do you think? Simple question, shouldn't be too hard to answer.
I don't mean "enough" as quantitative.
Do you find beauty in the night sky? A newborn baby? The eyes of a mother looking at her newborn baby? A kitten? The idea of a god? A creator? Love? Untainted nature? Two robots (portrayed with human characteristics) playing in space?
What is the most beautiful thing you've ever seen? How about in cinema?
Marty Chinn
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FunkyMunkey said:
You're the making bold statements that someone hasn't seen enough movies, not me. So quantify it. I've already stated I've seen several thousands of movies yet somehow it's not enough in your view since I do hold the opinion that it is one of the most beautiful scenes I have seen in all of cinema. I've also backed up the components of why I think it works too. You have yet to give ONE example of a beauiful scene in a movie that could be considered one of the best of all cinema. I'm not asking you to tell me the best, just one of the best. If it is not quantity, then what qualifies? I've seen a majority of the movies on the top AFI lists, the top IMDB lists, the oscar nominated and awarded films; what must I do to meet this quota of enough movies to make me realize that Wall-E's Define Dancing scene should not be considered one of the most beautiful scenes in all of cinema?
I find several things beautiful, but off the top of my head one of the most beautiful things that I have seen is looking into my wife's eyes as the official began speaking, and the feeling of holding back tears as hard as I could because it was a long time coming since we dated for 12 years before finally getting married. At the same time I could see she was fighting tears and at that moment we knew exactly what the other person was thinking and feeling just by looking at each other and it was one of the most beautiful moments of my life.
As far as cinema goes, I've already stated the Define Dancing sequence in Wall-E.
pizzaguysrevenge
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361059FunkyMunkey said:
ElectricBlue187
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eh i'll watch it but I'm not too excited
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