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[Anticitizen One]

Some of you guys here are acting like 3D animated and 2D animated movies are mutually exclusive and that you can only have one of them, but why not have both? There should be a good mix of both 2D and 3D animated movies, kind of like how we had with the Disney of the late 90's early 2000's.

That's the reason for the backlash against 3D movies as well, there's been too long of a stretch with just 3D animated movies being released.

Personally, I'm extremely glad that Disney is going back to 2D animation, it will give us a greater variety of movies to watch.

As for this movie in question, I'm going to have to see the reviews for it. The trailer was alright, but nothing special.

Agreed but back in my day (80s/90s) we had 2D, 3D, AND Stop motion animation (Nightmare before christmas, james and the giant peach).

 

[jooey]

the disney we grew up with?

this has black people :O

I think Sebastian was black.

 

[BorkBork]

hi not dismiss, sayin animation not as good as disney..

... but in animated movies I want to see animation, not camera going left to right on some not moving picture, call me crazy

You're crazy. Watch the movie for a movie.

 

[Anticitizen One]

I bet if this same trailer was touted as Pixar's entering into the 2D market, half the haters would be creaming themselves.

Pretty much. The hillarious part is that many ppl at Pixar helped work on this film.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Man the trailer seems so outdated after 14 years of Pixar brilliance.

I had forgotten about the unoriginal stories, uneven pacing and boring musical numbers of Disney.

Yeah, no.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Sup double post.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

People getting butthurt over a Disney movie. SMH

 

[Coolio McAwesome]

As excited as I am for this movie, I am equally as dissapointed by some of the responses in this thread.

 

[Aegus]

Looking good.

And what the hell at this thread. It's possible to enjoy more than one thing you know. It's like saying James Cameron films are shit because you also enjoy Ridley Scott films.

Is Rapunzel out next year as I'm really looking forward to that.

 

[Anticitizen One]

Looking good.

And what the hell at this thread. It's possible to enjoy more than one thing you know. It's like saying James Cameron films are shit because you also enjoy Ridley Scott films.

Is Rapunzel out next year as I'm really looking forward to that.

Rapunzel is gonna have some wierd 2D/CG hybrid thing going on I heard.

 

[anaron]

Rapunzel is gonna have some wierd 2D/CG hybrid thing going on I heard.

And Alan Menken music. <3

You mean this, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQFuesfaoI&fmt=18

The exact scene I thought of immedately. I gets the chills just watching it now!

 

[Souldriver]

I'm happy Disney/Pixar does some traditional animation. 3D and 2D can coexist.


And who knows, perhaps this movie will be awesome storywise. However, I am a bit disappointed that they didn't kind of "tweak" the art style, do something cool with it. As it looks now, it is a bit too "classical" and safe for my tastes.

 

[GCX]

Rapunzel is gonna have some wierd 2D/CG hybrid thing going on I heard.

I hope it at least somehow resembles the concept art:

 

[harSon]

I think story wise, the original idea was a lot better, but I can definitely see why it was changed. For those that haven't seen it, here's the original plot:

A musical set in 1920s New Orleans, the film was supposed to feature Maddy, a black chambermaid working for a spoilt, white Southern debutante. Maddy was to be helped by a voodoo priestess fairy godmother to win the heart of a white prince, after he rescued her from the clutches of a voodoo magician.

 

[anaron]

I hope it at least somehow resembles the concept art:

Here's like 8 seconds of test footage for it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO6EHhPr5g

 

[Souldriver]

Here's like 8 seconds of test footage for it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO6EHhPr5g

And it looks awesome!

 

[wRATH2x]

And what the hell at this thread. It's possible to enjoy more than one thing you know. It's like saying James Cameron films are shit because you also enjoy Ridley Scott films.

Ridley Scott>James Cameron.
Nothing against James Cameron, I'm a big fan of his. But I always enjoyed Ridley Scott's movies more.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

People who dismiss Miyazaki movies based on the assertion that they are anime with shortcuts and low budgets make me angry.

That is all.

While it is true that most anime have low budgets, anime movies typically don't follow this route. They have far higher budgets and amazing animation, with Studio Ghibli being the top tier with GODLY animation.

 

[Cdammen]

Looks nice and I like the return to 2D but I never really liked Disney's animations and drawing style. It looks rotoscoped and lacks character. Meh.

 

[AlternativeUlster]

And it looks awesome!

It already looks better than The Princess and the Frog.

 

[bengraven]

RACIST.

 

[GhaleonEB]

You mean this, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQFuesfaoI&fmt=18

God I love that sequence. I'm all for more 2d animation; the last truly great one I saw from Disney was Lilo and Stich. Though that doesn't have singing, which is partly why I like it.

So I'm rooting for this one. But the trailer gave pretty mixed signals.

Here's like 8 seconds of test footage for it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO6EHhPr5g

Whoa.

 

[ZeoVGM]

It already looks better than The Princess and the Frog.

Eh, not at all.

 

[Anticitizen One]

I think story wise, the original idea was a lot better, but I can definitely see why it was changed. For those that haven't seen it, here's the original plot:

The plot is still mostly the same its just been rearanged somewhat. From what I understand it was mostly a matter of changing names and softening some of the racial conotations. The witch doctor and voodo fairy godmother is still intact.

 

[Anticitizen One]

Here's like 8 seconds of test footage for it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO6EHhPr5g

Rapunzel ahs been in development for as long as Duke Nukem Forever :lol

Originally it was going to be a 2D epic like Beauty & the beast, then a CG musical, then a romantic comedy about people in the real world entering the fantasy realm with "shrek humor", then they decided on a more classic feal and then the director left the project and Lasseter has been trying to get a good creative team on it ever since to finally finish the thing.

 

[Dabookerman]

Ah, another Pixar is mediocre thread.

Awesome..

 

[harSon]

The plot is still mostly the same its just been rearanged somewhat. From what I understand it was mostly a matter of changing names and softening some of the racial conotations. The witch doctor and voodo fairy godmother is still intact.

I understand, I felt the other plot felt more authentic, unfortunately, authentic in this case means including some negative things from our nation's history.

 

[DieNgamers]

I can't be the only one who disagrees with this statement. The 90s Disney movies had a certain epicness to them that the pixar movies lack. I also feel the old Disney movies had much better humor.

I agree. Pixar doesn't even come close to old 2D disney in terms of epic awesomeness, in my opinion. Nothing against Pixar, I really like the movies (WallE and The incredibles were awesome).

 

[Sadist]

I kind of like it.

 

[Particle Physicist]

My friend brought up a good point last night, they've been hyping up the fact that after decades there's finally going to be a Black princess, and now there's a chance shes going to be a frog for most of the movie :lol Looks awesome to me, not sure what people were expecting.

i just watched the preview with my girlfriend.. and she basically said the same thing.. 'first black princess and they have to turn her into a frog!'

:lol

i still think this movie looks good. im a sucker for the 2d animation and the new orleans/cajun/jazz feel..

 

[Bregor]

I may be crazy, but instead of obsessing about whether a movie is 2d or 3d animation I focus on the quality of the film. A great film is great whether hand drawn or CG, and a poor film cannot be saved just because it is in your favorite format.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

blah

Wow, get off your high horse already. You are obviously WAY too emotionally invested in Wall-E to form a level-headed opinion on its "beauty".

And bold statements? Why do you love that word so much? Especially when my statement wasn't even bold to begin with? Just because you shoved my statement (which is my *GASP* opinion btw) up your own ass and decided to stick your head up there to analyze it, isn't my problem.

And if Wall-E brought emotions out in you that are even close to what you felt on your wedding day, there's absolutely no help for you.

I agree. Pixar doesn't even come close to old 2D disney in terms of epic awesomeness, in my opinion. Nothing against Pixar, I really like the movies (WallE and The incredibles were awesome).

Careful! Pixar is responsible for one of the most beautiful scenes in all of cinema! If Disney classics are better than that, then you're going to have a lot to explain here. :lol :lol

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

looks good to me

 

[traynuvthawt]

meh.

this certainly doesn't look bad to me; I'd watch it, but i wouldn't go rush to theater to see it like I would with your average pixar movie.

 

[Aaron Strife]

I agree. Pixar doesn't even come close to old 2D disney in terms of epic awesomeness, in my opinion. Nothing against Pixar, I really like the movies (WallE and The incredibles were awesome).

It's true. Disney at their best is better than Pixar. The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast are two movies in particular that have a lot of depth in everything, animation, music, storyline, etc. that you don't see in many animated films (not just today, but in general).

However, Wall-E and Incredibles are definitely up there.

 

[CounterSeal]

Kind of weird how the voices in the trailer sound like the characters are from the hood. It doesn't seem to fit the whole prince and princess theme.

 

[Buckethead]

It's true. Disney at their best is better than Pixar.

I agree. Pixar doesn't even come close to old 2D disney in terms of epic awesomeness, in my opinion.

The Pixar story's are a bit too bland for my taste.

Spoiler

Classic (Nine Old Men) Disney is fucking incredible and clearly better than 90s Disney interms of artistic quality, but let's not compare two disparate things. It's grating.

 

[Phobophile]

Kind of weird how the voices in the trailer sound like the characters are from the hood. It doesn't seem to fit the whole prince and princess theme.

By "from the hood" do you mean Southern? The clip clearly shows it's in a Louisiana bayou.

 

[Mau ®]

I thought this was a thread for "The bear and the bow" which looks like an updated "sleeping beauty" from Pixar. (not updating the story but the look/art)

This trailer didnt do it for me at all. It doesnt help that they need to hype it up by falling back on their past successes that were over 15 years ago or more.

 

[twinturbo2]

Is it too late to get the popcorn?

 

[Oozer3993]

They recently did 2 test screenings of the film. The reviews were good. A choice quote:

First, I Loved the movie, in fact I think it's one of the best animated movies Disney has ever made.

Source:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41034

I LOVE the trailer. Pumped as hell for the movie.

 

[BorkBork]

Wow, get off your high horse already. You are obviously WAY too emotionally invested in Wall-E to form a level-headed opinion on its "beauty".

And bold statements? Why do you love that word so much? Especially when my statement wasn't even bold to begin with? Just because you shoved my statement (which is my *GASP* opinion btw) up your own ass and decided to stick your head up there to analyze it, isn't my problem.

And if Wall-E brought emotions out in you that are even close to what you felt on your wedding day, there's absolutely no help for you.

Careful! Pixar is responsible for one of the most beautiful scenes in all of cinema! If Disney classics are better than that, then you're going to have a lot to explain here. :lol :lol

Calling people pathetic and delusional for loving a scene in a movie is pretty inflammatory in my book.

 

[Piano]

And Alan Menken music. <3

Hype just went through the fucking roof.

 

[J2 Cool]

Rapunzel is gonna have some wierd 2D/CG hybrid thing going on I heard.

Not anymore, they gave up on that because it was too time-consuming, and claimed they didn't have the technology as of now to do it. Also Glen Keane stepped down as director. It's a completely different film now basically. Supposedly pretty safe.

 

[Benjamin_MFF]

In regards to this topic, my short answer: NO

 

[Boards of Canada]

That was a terrible trailer. But I'll wait to see the movie before I judge.

 

[sevenchaos]

FUCK YEAH!@!!!!!!@' Looks so fucking goooooooood~!

 

[Marty Chinn]

Wow, get off your high horse already. You are obviously WAY too emotionally invested in Wall-E to form a level-headed opinion on its "beauty".

And bold statements? Why do you love that word so much? Especially when my statement wasn't even bold to begin with? Just because you shoved my statement (which is my *GASP* opinion btw) up your own ass and decided to stick your head up there to analyze it, isn't my problem.

And if Wall-E brought emotions out in you that are even close to what you felt on your wedding day, there's absolutely no help for you.

Careful! Pixar is responsible for one of the most beautiful scenes in all of cinema! If Disney classics are better than that, then you're going to have a lot to explain here. :lol :lol

Excuse me? My high horse? You were saying it was pathetic for anyone to think that scene in Wall-E could be considered one of the most beautiful scenes in all of cinema, and then proceeded to inject that clearly someone has not seen enough movies, be it quantity or quality, to have rationally have come to that conclusion. Who is on a high horse?

All I did was ask you to justify your claim. You have not defined what you mean by not seeing enough movies. You have not quantified your own knowledge of movies seen. To cap things off even worse, you have yet to list ONE scene as a counter example of what you think could be considered as one of the most beautiful scenes in cinema.

Nowhere did I say that I even held that scene in Wall-E to the day of my wedding. You asked me what I thought was a beautiful moment and I gave you one. I don't think any movie scene will stack up to that. That doesn't change the fact that I think Define Dancing is one of the most beautfiul scenes in all of cinema.

I have answered any question you have asked of me, but you have answered none. You can make bold claims, and baseless accusations of others but you've done nothing but shown you're full of shit since you STILL have not supported your argument despite numerous times being called out on it.

So I'll list them again.

1) What movies does one need to see in order to meet the qualification to have seen enough movies to realize that Define Dancing should not be considered one of the most beautiful scenes in all of cinema?
2) How many movies have you seen?
3) What do you consider to be one of the most beautiful scene in all of cinema?

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Kind of weird how the voices in the trailer sound like the characters are from the hood. It doesn't seem to fit the whole prince and princess theme.

What "voices" in this trailer sound like they're from the hood?

The frog? The voice actor has a Latin American accent.
The princess? She has a black dialect, but it doesn't sound like it's from the hood.
The villain? We only hear him laugh.
The creepy old lady at the end? She just sounds creepy.

 

[Shockgamer]

So is this going to be like Grand Theft Auto San Andreas where people don't see it because they can't "relate"?