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The disparity between Wii U threads and Vita threads.
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AdventureRacing
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I don't think this is true at all. The difference is sonys 1st party is only there to compliment the whole library whilst nintendos 1st party essentially has to carry the whole thing. Their output isn't bad but it can't cover up for that.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Well, they only have themselves to blame again for creating a box that just didnt make porting content easy enough.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
It can't be that difficult to port content when the WiiU is routinely outperforming the PS3 on digital foundry multi plat tests.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
So op wants someone to put a positive spin on a product so he can feel justified buying it? Grow a personality and backbone man and just buy what you want. Needing validation from a bunch of anonymous people on a forum is weird
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Our understanding of the word "routinely" is clearly at loggerheads.
Rush2thestart
Member
I thought it was common knowledge that the majority of GAF is Sony inclined. The infiltration of Killzone 2 gifs into every topic and the general hype for the game compared to other places convinced me pretty darn well.
I agree with you. Certainly for the way I use most of my gaming time these days, the Wii U pad and 3DS are largely doing the same things. I can quite easily see a convergence of the two in future generations.
In the here and now though im personally taking a wait and see approach with regards to Nintendo sustaining two platforms. If we get to the end of February and/or 1 or 2 Nintendo Directs pass, and we are still second guessing for April onwards, then I will be worried. But not now. Nintendo's current strategy means those who expect a flurry of games and those who expect droughts are both merely speculating.
PS3 is diabolically hard to port to. Outperforming a PS3 port isnt a point worth bragging about.
The Elite
BOSS
I'm sorry, but no. No fucking way. This is revisionist history right here. Vita was said to be great technically but was getting shit on for all manner of things from the start. 3DS suffered through much of the same thing as well.
Haha!
This thread is FILLED with gems!
I think the majority of GAF is inclined towards games. Always will be vocal minorities.
famousmortimer
Banned
There has been one positive vita thread and we all hide in there because whenever the vita is brought up otherwise it's DOOM AND GLOOM.
I actually appreciate the Wii-U folks taking some of the heat off of us. For a while this summer/early fall there were 4-5 VITA AM DOOMED threads a day. I don't care if people have negative things to say about the system but so much of it... over and over and over was just exhausting.
I actually appreciate the Wii-U folks taking some of the heat off of us. For a while this summer/early fall there were 4-5 VITA AM DOOMED threads a day. I don't care if people have negative things to say about the system but so much of it... over and over and over was just exhausting.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Fuck knows where you learnt english then.
EDIT:
DS2 = PS3 > 360 > WiiU
NG3 = WiiU > 360/PS3
Trine 2 = WiiU > 360/PS3
ME3 = 360 > WiiU > PS3
AC3 = 360 > WiiU > PS3
B:AC = 360 > WiiU > PS3
CoDBLOPS2 = 360 > WiiU > PS3
Seems pretty routine to me.
Who's bragging?
I'm pointing out that saying Nintendo have made a console that it's hard to port to is demonstrably untrue.
Captain Smoker
Member
I feel like the majority of GAF is about creating exaggerative posts about products they are not interested in.
(Basically like every other video game forum).
The Vita is a huge leap forward for handhelds full stop in performance, control options and online integration. Pricing is still a problem, but the system was and is highly attractive.
The Wii U OTOH is a huge leap forward only for people who soldiered through the past six years with nothing but a Wii.
Let's say it with maths:
WiiU appeal coefficient = HD appeal coefficient - but I already own an HD console + Nintendo franchise appeal coefficient
The Wii U OTOH is a huge leap forward only for people who soldiered through the past six years with nothing but a Wii.
Let's say it with maths:
WiiU appeal coefficient = HD appeal coefficient - but I already own an HD console + Nintendo franchise appeal coefficient
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that it was the graphics king on consoles when it came out. Nothing at all. Nope it was all sony fanboys.
Captain Smoker
Member
So the Wii U is a bad system because there won't be as many polygons or particles like on another console?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Haha I love this complaint. Nice to see that it's PS3 your picking this time. Last week it was 360.
Captain Smoker
Member
I forgot that Nintendo won't probably achieve this visual performance and that it will look far worse.
We should take a Batman-pic with a texture loading bug, representing the whole system.
Now now, let's not forget the Spaceworld 2000 concept. I think it's perfectly understandable that people wouldn't expect Zelda to look like that.
Eh, the ports are fine, exceptional cases like EM2 notwithstanding. The most aggravating issue are load times. Do you want to see weak ports? Look to early Ps3 multipats...
However, is perfectly understandable that many people were expecting more. Significantly better multipats performance, let alone parity with 360, was a reasonable expectation.
But clearly Nintendo goals lies elsewhere. Sub 35 watt consumption on a small sized box. A very Low profile box.
But of course, there's a lot of people that just want systems war, and many others that have a very subjective dislike for Nintendo. I do not consider, for one, praising iPad gaming power while shitting on the Wii U. But the iPad is a portable device (that goes for ($500+)? Its form factor dictates compromises and limits, just like the Wii U. Believing that (mostly) stationary devices don't need form factor and power-draw compromises? Yeah, that's reasonable and its understandable that those people find the Wii U unappealing for their tastes.
However, is perfectly understandable that many people were expecting more. Significantly better multipats performance, let alone parity with 360, was a reasonable expectation.
But clearly Nintendo goals lies elsewhere. Sub 35 watt consumption on a small sized box. A very Low profile box.
But of course, there's a lot of people that just want systems war, and many others that have a very subjective dislike for Nintendo. I do not consider, for one, praising iPad gaming power while shitting on the Wii U. But the iPad is a portable device (that goes for ($500+)? Its form factor dictates compromises and limits, just like the Wii U. Believing that (mostly) stationary devices don't need form factor and power-draw compromises? Yeah, that's reasonable and its understandable that those people find the Wii U unappealing for their tastes.
That's not what I said at all, and no.
Captain Smoker
Member
What's wrong about my statement?
Cornbread78
Member
is it weird that I view this thread like a parent complaining to teachers that their child is being picked on?
GAF shits on almost everything, you should know that by and at least you know the Wii U will be around for a long time.
GAF shits on almost everything, you should know that by and at least you know the Wii U will be around for a long time.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Smoker you need to breathe man. Relax people, close your eyes, start humming like your playing a Ocarina and relax.
At least you'd have a pic closer to the current day reality of the Wii U.
Okay that made me laugh :lol
Captain Smoker
Member
I don't think that a particular frame is representing the current day reality.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
The Wii U is fun. Don't let anyone dissuade you otherwise.
It was never going to be a console that pleased the "harder, faster, more" crowd, but it's the only way of playing Nintendo's first party gems in HD for the next half-decade. Off screen TV play and the built-in social media functionality are real benefits to me.
The system already has the best Mario 2D platformer in decades, a genuine survival horror game that is actually scary, and with awesome Third party titles like the Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends and Bayonetta 2 on the horizon, it has a bright future.
It was never going to be a console that pleased the "harder, faster, more" crowd, but it's the only way of playing Nintendo's first party gems in HD for the next half-decade. Off screen TV play and the built-in social media functionality are real benefits to me.
The system already has the best Mario 2D platformer in decades, a genuine survival horror game that is actually scary, and with awesome Third party titles like the Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends and Bayonetta 2 on the horizon, it has a bright future.
Duane Cunningham
Member
If you want GAF to talk you into a Wii U, just go read the Miiverse art thread (or any Miiverse thread). Every time I do, I'm about ready to jump in the car and head to Target.
It's a better example than a tech demo since it actually exists.
You do realize the techdemos were not only extremely early, but apparently also running on underclocked hardware? If anything, the current day reality of ground up AAA titles should look quite a bit better.
Captain Smoker
Member
The tech-demo isn't an imaginated video either. (and, see wsippels post)
If I choose Star Wars 1313, one of the few known next-gen-projects, which represents possible PS480 graphics, I can choose the possible Wii U - graphics in a few years, achieved by one of Nintendo best teams.
I don't see the point in comparing a Batman-port-pic to Star Wars 1313 either.
I'd rather choose Nintendo Land, but the art-style doesn't compute.
Why would you even mention HD systems and a glorified smartphone in the same sentence? The systems aren't even in the same league.
Lol.
Ouch!
Vita can handle some very decently competent ports of PS3 games. Wii U can handle some very decently competent ports of PS3 games.
I'd say the 3DS was the one in the different league. The Vita is just about there, but struggling to avoid relegation.
JakkuFurosu
Member
damn son
Funnily enough when the vita first came out I recall shit and doomed threads everywhere.
outunderthestars
Banned
I think alot of the disparity in reactions comes from the launch lineups.
Seeing games like Uncharted on a portable was incredibly impressive. That said, the Wii U's launch lineup has been underwhelming at best. Since the hardware is a bit underpowered, Nintendo really needed to come out and show people some really great reasons to game on their tablet controller.
They weren't really able to do that with their launch lineup, Couple the lack of a "must own" kind of title with the rather clumsy launch and you can see why people on GAF may be a bit down on the system at the moment. The Vita had dozens of "vita is doomed" threads at launch, and continues to have them on a regular basis.
That will change when Nintendo shows some games that really take advantage of the wii U controller. I know I'll be in the moment they show me a 3d mario or pokemon snap.
Seeing games like Uncharted on a portable was incredibly impressive. That said, the Wii U's launch lineup has been underwhelming at best. Since the hardware is a bit underpowered, Nintendo really needed to come out and show people some really great reasons to game on their tablet controller.
They weren't really able to do that with their launch lineup, Couple the lack of a "must own" kind of title with the rather clumsy launch and you can see why people on GAF may be a bit down on the system at the moment. The Vita had dozens of "vita is doomed" threads at launch, and continues to have them on a regular basis.
That will change when Nintendo shows some games that really take advantage of the wii U controller. I know I'll be in the moment they show me a 3d mario or pokemon snap.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Still having to rely on the same old non-collison, no-AI, Zelda tech demo gifs approaching a month after the console has actually launched is a pretty sad state of affairs isn't it? To not have one game in there that really shows off this new box's power is just so weird when the system should have launched last year or Spring at the latest.
Vita lineup in comparison had stuff like Wipeout and Virtua Tennis already stunning people with visuals, and although not native res, I still found Golden Abyss' realtime lighting and full Uncharted experience particularly mind-blowing.
Theres just nothing wowing people from the WiiU yet nor is there anything to point to. Just the OTP novelty and an integrated messageboard system.
Vita lineup in comparison had stuff like Wipeout and Virtua Tennis already stunning people with visuals, and although not native res, I still found Golden Abyss' realtime lighting and full Uncharted experience particularly mind-blowing.
Theres just nothing wowing people from the WiiU yet nor is there anything to point to. Just the OTP novelty and an integrated messageboard system.
Zombie James
Banned
Only when there are glaring, in-your-face problems (PS3 with price/bad launch, 360 with RRoD and scratched discs, Wii U with under-powered hardware and slow UI, etc). Playing the victim card in console debates just means you haven't been paying enough attention.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
"gamers" assessing a platform based on screenshots and not gameplay is a sadder one.
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