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The GiantBomb Quick Look Thread

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I find it pathetic that people are ripping on Giant Bomb. These guys are such a breath of fresh air. There's no other video game review site out there like them. They genuinely love games and being a gamer. They do such a good job of catering to their audience. They flat out just always seem to be having a good time. They also seem to have very established relationships with lots of big name developers so they get a lot of great interviews. I feel sorry for anyone who would rather read reviews from IGN, 1up, or *shutter*...Gamespot. The only other review site that I really enjoy is Joystiq but they're not nearly as in touch with their audience as Giant Bomb.
 
zoner said:
You sure are an exceptionally rude one.
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Go read the beginning of this thread, people had the same complaints you have now. Those who watch them still accept that gb is the staffs passion project and they ain't going to change what they are doing.
 
Humor is what makes GiantBomb and why I love visiting that site (look at my avatar obviously). What is this about the "accuracy" of quicklooks? Sounds to me like some users want a video review: completely scripted with all the best parts of the game highlighted. All I see of QuickLooks is a video of some early part of the game and watching them play it and discuss it.
 
chris121580 said:
I find it pathetic that people are ripping on Giant Bomb. These guys are such a breath of fresh air. There's no other video game review site out there like them. They genuinely love games and being a gamer. They do such a good job of catering to their audience. They flat out just always seem to be having a good time. They also seem to have very established relationships with lots of big name developers so they get a lot of great interviews. I feel sorry for anyone who would rather read reviews from IGN, 1up, or *shutter*...Gamespot. The only other review site that I really enjoy is Joystiq but they're not nearly as in touch with their audience as Giant Bomb.
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It's common to hate things that other people like when you yourself don't like them.

I think Giantbomb is pretty nifty and quick looks are the single best thing to ever happen to gaming journalism.

TheUsual said:
Humor is what makes GiantBomb and why I love visiting that site (look at my avatar obviously). What is this about the "accuracy" of quicklooks? Sounds to me like some users want a video review: completely scripted. All the best parts of the game highlighted. All I see of QuickLooks is a video of some early part of the game and watching them play it and discuss it.
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The hate stems from when someone's token game gets a quicklook that they feel doesn't do the game justice, therefore Giantbomb sucks and Jeff Gerstmann is a troll and they need to let you know how they feel about it in the official Giantbomb threads on NeoGAF.
 
hrtdy098u7 said:
Looking back at my previous message in this topic it seems to have struck a nerve with some of you people here.
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Yeah gee, maybe it was because you spent most of your pretentious rant criticizing the fanbase instead of the quicklooks themselves.
 
Giant Bomb uncompromisingly do their stuff the way they want to whilst still managing to be successful. More than enough to earn my respect.

Some people will find something to hate about absolutely anything.
 
zoner said:
Probably because they have the most impressionable fans ever. Their words carry serious weight.

For the record, I have no problem with the quality of the quick looks. I just think it seems like they're hardly ever doing editorial work compared to other sites.
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I think that's because they don't have a) the time/staff and b) the want to do that kind of stuff outside of the podcasts. I believe their motivation is outside of that.

Like all of the media to inform you about a game (previews, QLs, reviews, podcasts, forum comments, etc) you really shouldn't use them in isolation. Better to get the info from a least a couple of these sources.

The other thing is that surely, the QL is not hugely different from a demo. If you're going to bemoan a QL, then surely a demo is also something to bemoan with its possible misrepresentation of the game
 
hrtdy098u7 said:
Looking back at my previous message in this topic it seems to have struck a nerve with some of you people here. The several very quick and very angry replies aren’t exactly disproving my theory on GB’s fans being freaky.

I’ve already explained that I have a legitimate interest in the QL concept and inaccuracy in something that’s supposedly informational is a legitimate critique. If you say that the QL isn’t supposed to be informative you’re only proving my point that the fans watch GB for the humor from its staff, which means GB is a joke.

Please explain to me the point of defending the misinformation in QL content anyway, I’m curious in knowing because it defies any logic I can imagine. Wouldn’t these videos be better if they were accurate? I can’t think of a reason why they wouldn’t be. Don’t tell me that this goes against the QL’s purpose of providing a first impression because simply reading the instructions or doing the tutorial which just so happen to usually be presented at the beginning of these games would prevent most of GB’s errors. A good example is the Clash of the Titans QL. I can’t possibly be biased in favor of that game because I’ve never played it and I agree it looks bad, but that doesn’t change how many screw ups in that video could have been avoided by reading the text on the screen.

Listening to some guys complain because they can’t figure out something they were just told how to do, or could have found the answer for in a few minutes of tutorial gameplay doesn’t fit my definitions of funny or useful. The GB QL is actually what got me to try the Monster Hunter demo, so I have found these things helpful in the past if only for motivating me to learn more about a game. I just think they’d be a lot more helpful if I didn’t need to sort through what’s a legitimate game flaw and what’s GB’s BS. Too bad there seems to be little motivation for GB to improve since the fans come out to defend everything about the site, including undeniable inaccuracies. It’s like they have some emotional attachment to a video game website, which just seems crazy to me.
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You don't want what Giantbomb has to offer, simple as that. It's the seat-of-their-pants charm and humor which draw people to the site. If you want self-serious game coverage you can find it elsewhere.

It's funny that you seem to think Giantbomb needs to change based on your sole dissatisfaction. Yet you seem to be the only one complaining, and you even cite how many fans defend the site. So in a sense you're saying everyone but you is wrong about this.
 
I think the problem is that he's viewing Quick Looks as the equivalent to a "journalistic" preview or the like.

I don't think that's ever what the site intended.

They are literally "Let's sit a couple guys down in front of a game and play it and see what happens." They freely and clearly bring their own biases and skill into it. It's a fact that the staff tends to prefer certain sorts of games, and thus those get shown off more, and they tend to be better at them. It's also why they don't review a lot of games, including a lot of prominent ones.

It sounds like he wants them brought under an editorial banner, which they've never been under. It's a way to cover a game that seems mildly interesting, but they don't feel like devoting the time it would take to craft a full review for. The most preparation they'll do is play an area they've played before that they know shows off a good cross-section, but that's not even guaranteed. Any conclusions you draw are solely your own.

It's why they don't really sum up their feelings at the end of them. They're just there to allow you to watch some guys play a game that you may or may not be interested in, with a few jokes thrown in, probably.

For me, they're the most useful thing in determining if I should get a game or not.
 
Patryn said:
They are literally "Let's sit a couple guys down in front of a game and play it and see what happens." They freely and clearly bring their own biases and skill into it.
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Seems painfully obvious that this is the case to me but people still complain about the way they play the games, how good at them they are, etc.
 
Patryn said:
For me, they're the most useful thing in determining if I should get a game or not.
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This isn't the case for me but instead they have exposed me to some really interesting games that I ended up buying that I otherwise would have no interest in. I see a lot of posts in this thread like "never even heard of this! but I just preordered!" Which I guess is a good thing.

EmCeeGramr said:
See, I'd have no problem with any Quick Look ever if it weren't for things like this. Quick Looks are funny, but they are uninformative as hell and for many games don't offer an accurate view at all, despite the claim that being unscripted somehow makes them more accurate.
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Why is that a problem? Most people who watch their videos probably have the same taste in games as at least one guy on the site so if they recommend a game it has more impact than some random guy that gives a game an 8.5/10.
 
Patryn said:
For me, they're the most useful thing in determining if I should get a game or not.
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See, I'd have no problem with any Quick Look ever if it weren't for things like this. Quick Looks are funny, but they are uninformative as hell and for many games don't offer an accurate view at all, despite the claim that being unscripted and spontaneous somehow makes them more accurate.

It's cool when a Quick Look gets me interested in a game I hadn't noticed before, but it's kinda infuriating when a neat game that was already kinda niche gets fumbled through without paying attention, leading to the comments filling up with "meh" and "looks terrible, was kinda interested but no buy now!"
 
Also the GB guys simply can't play some games. They just suck too much. Then again, that is a good way of avoiding hard games.
 
Riposte said:
Also the GB guys simply can't play some games. They just suck too much. Then again, that is a good way of avoiding hard games.
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I don't think they suck. (Well, except Brad) They just don't really pay attention at times, leading to some stupid avoidable mistakes or them making games much harder than they really are.

Though I've always noticed game journalists in general seem worse at games. It's not always an audience or talking-while-playing thing, it's even in videos that were clearly recorded at a show while they were focused on playing, or just hitting record and playing the game at their office. I guess it has to do with them playing so many games and constantly abandoning them before they're finished that they don't develop that much muscle memory for certain things.
 
Got a bit irked in the AC DLC one, Ryan failed at catching the target in the beginning of the video. Attempt 2, Vinny asks if Ryan was going full speed during chase(and it seemed he wasn't pushing A for sprint, just holding down R-Trigger) hence his massive lag behind. Ryan just interrupted, "yea, yea, I'm doing it right".

I normally love the guys as well, and it was hard to tell, but even the on-screen UI was stating to hold to A for sprint/run. Maybe he was, but it really looked like he wasn't. Only real issue with this, is that clearly it put Ryan in a dour mood during the QL, and it made the entire experience a bit hard to watch. All I could think about in those first few minutes was "Push A while sprinting Ryan!! goddamn! Listen to Vin!"
 
EmCeeGramr said:
See, I'd have no problem with any Quick Look ever if it weren't for things like this. Quick Looks are funny, but they are uninformative as hell and for many games don't offer an accurate view at all, despite the claim that being unscripted and spontaneous somehow makes them more accurate.

It's cool when a Quick Look gets me interested in a game I hadn't noticed before, but it's kinda infuriating when a neat game that was already kinda niche gets fumbled through without paying attention, leading to the comments filling up with "meh" and "looks terrible, was kinda interested but no buy now!"
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If I'm already interested in a game, I think a bad Quick Look won't totally turn me off a game. It just leads me to seeking out more information than I normally would in order to determine if I really want it.
 
Some of you complainers are terrible. You post big walls of text on a gaming forum berating fans of GiantBomb for being "obsessed" and "freaky" but then don't realize how weird you are yourself for caring so much to make such a post.

Quick Looks are fun. Whenever I take my lunch break at work, assuming I'm not with someone, I pop a Quick Look up on my phone while I'm eating and get a couple of good chuckles watching some guys making funny comments while playing a game. If I'm bored at home I might start playing one for a game I'm interested in to see what it's like sans all the bullshit PR in trailers and dry, boring, video reviews. I don't get addicted to some JRPG and and then go back and watch old Quick Looks to measure the performance levels of video game website staff members.

You're doing it wrong and you're taking it way way too seriously.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
Definitely untrue, there's a noticeable tier of worstedness!
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AnEternalEnigma said:
Hopefully Sara Lima is involved. I want to see just how far the chat can go when it comes to creepiness.
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Personally I hope she isn't involved in anything I'm likely to watch. No offense to Sara but I find her kinda dull and humourless.
 
I want Dave's sister to participate. She's hilarious when drunk. Alcohol should be mandatory during that quick look though. Throw in Matt and Will for additional drunken fun.
 
I just want men spanking each other and feeling really awkward about it. This isn't about titillation, it's about humor. This should be girl-free or else it goes from funny to kind of creepy.
 
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