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The GiantBomb Quick Look Thread

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Dropped by seeking some funny QL moments that I missed. What do I find? People still disgruntled that their favorite games aren't played "correctly" during Quick Looks.

Sadness.
 
djm said:
Most of it is really immature criticism, though. People basically pick apart everything he does in QLs now looking for mistakes to post up.
There are poor critics in all areas, including QuickLook viewers.

This is really an issue of what are these video for. If their primary function is one of entertainment, it doesn't matter how he plays, and in fact making mistakes and getting frustrated by a game might actually be more entertaining. If the intent is to communicate the product as effectively as possible, then people are right to take issue when he is misrepresenting a product.

It's kind of a short term issue, people can only know he is at fault when they know the game in question, and that only happens when it's an old port like the N/Ico Collection, OoT, RE4 etc. For the most part we get QLs before we get to play games, so it's much more difficult to know.

I think some people have been too extreme with their criticism, but that's the nature of a forum, and my point was just that if Brad isn't comfortable with that, he shouldn't read the thread.
 
StuBurns said:
It's not playing shit that's irritating, it's blaming the game. Being bad at SotC or RE4 is fine, saying the game is releasing your grip, or a bad guy is taking a whole clip in the chest is misrepresenting the game..

I 100% agree with this, Brad can screw up all he wants and it won't bother me that much, but acting like something he did wrong wasn't his fault or outright blaming the game is the problem.
 
DaBuddaDa said:
The complaining about Brad's QLs in GiantBomb's own official forums makes GAF seem like puppies and rainbows in comparison.
I'll never understand this. I'd never think anyone under the age of say 18 would get into Giant Bomb, since most of their humor (or at least Jeff and Ryan's) leans so heavily on early to mid 90's pop culture being they're all in their mid 30's. I've tried reading the chat during TNTs and can only stand about 30 seconds.

Maybe I'm just overestimating the posting behaviors of people on the internet. I don't think I've legitimately trolled boards in 5 or 6 years.
 
It's always been a completely unsubstantiated pet theory of mine that at least some portion of GiantBomb's community immigrated from GameSpot's (a forum that literally has a section for encouraging system wars fighting that became its own major community in its own right), which might explain some of that.
 
GAF skews old because it requires a paid email address and is modded hard, well, those things almost certainly help. Except a few 'secret' gaming boards for devs, I imagine Quarter to Three has the oldest user base.
 
StuBurns said:
This thread turned a pale shade. I like Brad, but if he can't take a little criticism maybe it is best he stay off a place where people can express themselves if he likes the expression or not. Kind of ironic for a game critic to be offended by criticism.

The more GiantBomb push their gonzo journalism and cult of personality, the more this is going to happen.

Let's be honest as well - most of it is in jest. It's light teasing.

I don't give one shit if Brad doesn't know what yellow herbs do. No one does. It's just fun to bring it up because of the times Brad actually does some incomprehensible things. And that's fine.

Yes, maybe one or two people in this thread are actually serious and have some real venom towards him, but even if that's so - why care? It's just criticism from a vocal minority. Either have a laugh, take something from it, or ignore it.

Brad - Don't be so touchy. Do keep making great videos.
 
_Alkaline_ said:
I don't give one shit if Brad doesn't know what yellow herbs do. No one does.

it increases your maximum health
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StuBurns said:
GAF skews old because it requires a paid email address and is modded hard, well, those things almost certainly help. Except a few 'secret' gaming boards for devs, I imagine Quarter to Three has the oldest user base.

Definitely. I would say most people on GAF are going to be at least 18, after getting a .edu address from their college or university. That's certainly the email that I signed up with a few years ago.

Before that, acceptable email addresses are much harder to come by. The community remains high quality compared to other forums because the consequences for getting banned are much greater - it's not going to be easy to acquire another paid email address, and even if you did, you would have to deal with the waiting list. (Personally I didn't have to wait more than a couple weeks at most - but that may be because .edu addresses are easier to verify.)

It would be hard going back to other forums after GAF - the quality of discussion on sites like GameFAQs, the Blizzard Official Forums, or Fansites is almost always a step or two down. You have to sort through a lot more drivel to find anything interesting.
 
_Alkaline_ said:
Yes, maybe one or two people in this thread are actually serious and have some real venom towards him, but even if that's so - why care? It's just criticism from a vocal minority. Either have a laugh, take something from it, or ignore it.

Brad - Don't be so touchy. Do keep making great videos.

Agreed, though i'd argue it's a lot more than one or two. I think the modding on GAF has become more relaxed or maybe I'm becoming more cynical because I've noticed an increasing amount of idiots on GAF then when I joined a couple of yours ago. Either way, people on the internet are dicks so learning how to ignore them is important.
 
The Diablo III Quick Look passed us by almost without comment. People who were bothered by the art style might be relieved: the gameplay seems to have very little to do with Diablo II, as well. There's no need to sink your teeth into the character customization and skill paths anymore. Blizzard has you covered. Click away.
 
Goldmund said:
The Diablo III Quick Look passed us by almost without comment. People who were bothered by the art style might be relieved: the gameplay seems to have very little to do with Diablo II, as well. There's no need to sink your teeth into the character customization and skill paths anymore. Blizzard has you covered. Click away.
Looks fantastic to me. I got the beta and the voice acting for my character was a nice surprise. Haven't been following it closely. Really looking forward to the full game now. I only played a tiny bit.

Btw Brad, they can't stop watching you. They secretly want you but they deny themselves the truth so they rage instead. ;)
 
LiK said:
Looks fantastic to me. I got the beta and the voice acting for my character was a nice surprise. Haven't been following it closely. Really looking forward to the full game now. I only played a tiny bit.
It looks good, yes. And that seems to be it. You don't build your character anymore. You select which one to have at any given point. I don't know. That's the one aspect I really liked about the game. A slow progression, with a distinct goal in mind. All that seems to be left is loot.
 
It's certainly a different way of doing things. We'll see if it's more worthwhile. Looks like it's all slot-in slot-out now. I can see why you'd be annoyed that it's gone, but I can also see people who fuck up their build and only realise it five levels later being less pissed off.
 
Jintor said:
It's certainly a different way of doing things. We'll see if it's more worthwhile. Looks like it's all slot-in slot-out now. I can see why you'd be annoyed that it's gone, but I can also see people who fuck up their build and only realise it five levels later being less pissed off.
I guess Blizzard knows better these days. In business, there's money to be made, not hearts to win.
 
To be honest, watching almost anybody play videogames is irrationally frustrating. I know that if people had been secretly watching me Xenoblade they would have died of laughter or boredom fairly early into the game.
 
To everyone who complains about the things Brad does in quick looks, I think you guys need to play a game knowing that thousands upon thousands on people will watch your performance whilst having to maintain informative and entertaining discussion on the game with someone else next to you at the same time. Not to mention that the guys play a bunch of different games every week. I don't think you can expect them to be AMAZING at everything--the minute you start thinking being great at games is what makes Brad's job viable, then you lose the debate.

Unless of course you're all so fantastic at every game you play that you never make any errors and are always 100% aware of everything the game is asking you to do at all times?
 
I think we shouldn't make too big of a deal out of this, because it makes this 'situation' even worse than it should be. A lot of us have already expressed that some people are taking the "teasing" too far and now even Brad himself said that he sees no point in reading these threads anymore. I don't intend to forbid anyone to speak (especially when it's appropriate), but the last two or three pages should be enough to give people something to think about (which is also true for certain Klepek and Kessler critics) -- and now we should just go on and be nice and reasonable again.
 
slaughterking said:
I think we shouldn't make too big of a deal out of this, because it makes this 'situation' even worse than it should be. A lot of us have already expressed that some people are taking the "teasing" too far and now even Brad himself said that he sees no point in reading these threads anymore. I don't intend to forbid anyone to speak (especially when it's appropriate), but the last two or three pages should be enough to give people something to think about (which is also true for certain Klepek and Kessler critics) -- and now we should just go on and be nice and reasonable again.
There's more whining about the teasing than actual teasing at this point. Two or three posts was all it took to start 3+ pages worth of back and forth. It's time for people to just ignore the criticism and move on.
 
i did find that SOTC quick look quite frustrating to watch, but thats just the nature of quick looks, and i'm pretty sure i did that exact same thing when i first played the game. if that kind of thing bothers you so much, then the quick look format probably isnt for you.

theres always been people whining about that sort of stuff, that is just particular to quick looks, and it happens with all the GB staff not just brad.

and i loved RE4 but i cant remember what the yellow herbs do
 
why am I still subscribed to this thread

if I wanted to hear 16 year olds whine about Brad and Patrick I'd post on the GB forums
 
I've watched a lot of Quick Looks and have never really had any complaints.

Unfortunately, the SotC Quick Look got to me personally because it not only made one of my favorite games look clumsy and random, it also insinuated that the controls were glitchy. People in the SotC thread here on GAF itself who have never played the game admitted to being turned off to it by the Quick Look because it looked so frustrating.

Forgetting the main mechanic behind the game and not even taking one or two minutes to look at the instruction manual before you "play the game in front of thousands" as people have said, was a big mistake. It's not the end of the world, but it was a rather big enough mistake to justify him taking some shit from people.
 
Mzo said:
I've watched a lot of Quick Looks and have never really had any complaints.

Unfortunately, the SotC Quick Look got to me personally because it not only made one of my favorite games look clumsy and random, it also insinuated that the controls were glitchy. People in the SotC thread here on GAF itself who have never played the game admitted to being turned off to it by the Quick Look because it looked so frustrating.

Forgetting the main mechanic behind the game and not even taking one or two minutes to look at the instruction manual before you "play the game in front of thousands" as people have said, was a big mistake. It's not the end of the world, but it was a rather big enough mistake to justify him taking some shit from people.
Pathetic.
 
Mzo said:
I've watched a lot of Quick Looks and have never really had any complaints.

Unfortunately, the SotC Quick Look got to me personally because it not only made one of my favorite games look clumsy and random, it also insinuated that the controls were glitchy. People in the SotC thread here on GAF itself who have never played the game admitted to being turned off to it by the Quick Look because it looked so frustrating.

Forgetting the main mechanic behind the game and not even taking one or two minutes to look at the instruction manual before you "play the game in front of thousands" as people have said, was a big mistake. It's not the end of the world, but it was a rather big enough mistake to justify him taking some shit from people.
That's an acceptable criticism. It's the people who go "Brad fucking sucks how does he even have a job playing games? What a fucking moron!" or acting like it's a serious personal offense he has done. Same applies for Kessler. Coming in and saying stuff like "He makes he sick he's such a fat disgusting fuck I won't even watch this QL." It's just acting like an angry piece of shit.

rudds said:
There's plenty of great discussion and a ton of really cool people around here, but you know what they say about a few bad apples.

Do what David Jaffe does and insult them and their family while coming up with creative ways to say "Go fuck yourself".
 
Discussing how the game is being played is part of discussing these Quick Looks. People will and should continue to talk about Brad playing poorly, or being oblivious to obvious cues in the games.

It's not just some meme, he really does play terribly in pretty much every game he's showing off, pointing that out when it happens should not be taken as some vicious personal attack worthy of dramatic statements about the GAF community.
 
I think it's bullshit that Brad is complaining about the forum's reaction. The comments on GB were much worse and vicious. What's next, he's going to stop going to his own website? :P
 
jett said:
I think it's bullshit that Brad is complaining about the forum's reaction. The comments on GB were much worse and vicious. What's next, he's going to stop going to his own website? :P

People on here bitch WAY too much. At least on there forums you skip that thread.
 
Is it that big of a loss?

I don't recall rudds ever breaking news here or jumping into a thread to share any substantive or thoughtful insight.

So aside from it being cool to say to yourself, "Hey, that's Brad from Giant Bomb," are we really missing anything if rudds no longer posts here?
 
DaBuddaDa said:
Brad beat and reviewed Super Meat Boy (5 stars). He plays DOOM on Ultra-Violence. Haters can all fuck off.
He's also a great SC2 player.

People aren't saying he's shit at every game, just that it's frustrating to watch him play games and get the most simple things wrong sometimes.

I like Brad, but I agree.
 
This is a discussion forum. People discuss shit that's on their mind. If someone doesn't like the way Brad plays games than he's free to express that opinion and people who think differently can then share their thoughts. What do you "stop bitching" people want? A forum where everyone agrees and then circlejerks over it?



StuBurns said:
This thread turned a pale shade. I like Brad, but if he can't take a little criticism maybe it is best he stay off a place where people can express themselves if he likes the expression or not. Kind of ironic for a game critic to be offended by criticism.

This is also one good post.
 
**[Waves hand at Brad to get his attention]**

Don't worry Brad, for every one poster who can't help themselves there are 10 that can!
 
People can say what they want but at some point the same people are just repeating the same complaints endlessly and it's just irritating. So many lame predictable posts; we really could just write down their posts in advance and save them the trouble.
 
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