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The Great Muppet Comeback

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DrForester

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After being put to pasture a few years ago following a string of disappointing films and a ho-hum return to TV, the Muppets are a pop culture phenomenon once again.

Now, comfortably middle aged, the zany puppets who came to prominence in the 1970s with "The Muppet Show" have recaptured their youthful bravado.

And they're doing it by popping up all over the Disney corporate matrix, including appearances on ABC and ESPN programs, top billing on the Walt Disney Company's homepage and, soon, in a network special and feature film written by "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" star Jason Segel.

But nothing has brought audiences back into the fold quite like YouTube.

Kermit, Miss Piggy, Fozzie and the rest of the Jim Henson's creatures have become Internet sensations with their recent viral video cover of "Bohemian Rhapsody," and their more recently released version of the Christmas carol "Ringing of the Bells." The puppets take on the Queen classic has drawn more than 11.5 million viewers.

Versions of "Ode to Joy" and short videos featuring the likes of the Swedish Chef demonstrating pumpkin carving have also attracted hundreds of thousands of viewers to the Muppets' YouTube channel.

The Muppets have been further shaking off their self-imposed seclusion (it's been over 10 years since their last feature film) with a series of strategic cameos on established television shows. Characters are popping up on programs such as "Dancing With the Stars," where Animal banged on the drums as Aaron Carter hoofed it to the theme from "The Muppet Show." Miss Piggy interviewed guests during the series finale.

It's part of a canny strategy by Disney, which bought the property from Jim Henson Productions in 2004, to introduce new audiences to the stalled brand and to remind traditional fans what they were missing.

In an odd confluence of events just as the Muppets were racking up page views, "The Muppet Man," a script by Christopher Weekes, attracted a great deal of attention after it was named the best unproduced script in Hollywood as part of film executive Franklin Leonard's annual survey The Black List.

The screenwriter himself thinks that the Muppets are well positioned for a resurgence.

"It's fantastic that people are rediscovering the Muppets," Weekes told TheWrap. "Making videos for the Internet is something Jim would have done. It's brave and clever. They're viral video pioneers."

The newfound success follows a particularly fallow period for the franchise.

While the iconic "Muppet Movie" was considered a hit with $65.2 million in 1979, after Henson's death in 1990, the troupe's big screen adventures grew increasingly stale — to the tune of critical opprobrium and diminishing box office returns. "Muppet Treasure Island" (1996) netted a modest $34 million and "Muppets from Space" (1999) took in an even more disappointing $16 million.

Of the latter, Roger Ebert spoke for many when he effectively wrote the franchise off with these words: "Maybe it's just this movie.

Maybe 'Muppets from Space' is just not very good, and they'll make a comeback. I hope so. Because I just don't seem to care much anymore. Sorry, Miss Piggy. Really sorry."

An attempt to recapture the energy of the original television show with "Muppets Tonight" on ABC in the mid-90s proved short-lived. A proposed "America's Next Top Model" parody called "America's Next Muppet" never even made it onto screens; the studio killed it off while it was still in the planning stages.

The fizz, it seemed, had gone flat from characters who once delighted young and old alike with their anarchic hijinks.

Compounding issues was a convoluted period at the beginning of the decade during which the rights to the Muppet characters were passed around.

The Jim Henson Company was purchased by the German media company EM.TV & Merchandising AG in 2000, but EM.TV, beset by financial difficulties in 2003, sold it back to the Henson family. Disney, which had been circling the Muppets since 1990, finally bought the rights to the characters from the Henson Company nine months after the puppeteer's family regained control.

In a sign of how much the Henson Company's value had decreased during its time as a ward of EM.TV, the German company bought the property for $680 million and sold it for a mere $78 million just a few years later. Disney paid a reported $75 million for the Muppets brand.

About the only things the company has done with the pricey puppets until this current blitzkrieg was a new movie, "The Muppets Wizard of Oz," which aired on ABC in May 2005, and placing ornery critics Statler and Waldorf on a skit-oriented weekly video segment called "From the Balcony" for Movies.com, which Disney owns. The segments ran from 2005 to 2006, at which point the company pulled the bit so it could rethink the entire Muppets brand.

The Muppets re-launch is not just a masterful illustration of new media moxie, it's also a very clever demonstration of corporate synergy. Disney's Hollywood Records holds the rights to "Bohemian Rhapsody" and, of course, ABC, which produces "Dancing with the Stars," is aired by the Mouse House.

In the past, characters have turned up across other company-owned platforms such as the Disney Channel, Disney Online, and ESPN, a practice the studio plans to expand upon over the coming year.

Though in one instance of non-synergy, NBC last year aired a Muppet Christmas special: "A Muppets Christmas: Letters to Santa." It repeated the special this year.

Disney, which declined to comment for this article, isn't content with just having Henson's furry progeny remain viral sensations. Pretty soon the Muppet's will be back on more than just computer screens.

In a sign of their new corporate seal of approval, while Donald Duck and Goofy are nowhere to be found, the Muppets are prominently displayed in two different places on Disney's Web site.

Miss Piggy and Kermit are currently starring alongside Taye Diggs and James Denton in commercials for Disney theme parks, which promote giving a day of volunteer service in exchange for a free pass at Disney World or Disneyland.

All this, of course, is just an appetizer for the main event: The Muppets next feature film is on track to hit theaters in 2011.

Befitting the edgier timbre of the recent YouTube videos, Segel, the screenwriter Disney has tapped for this latest go-round, is best known for his more adult roles in Judd Apatow's comedies (including his puppet-wielding playwright character in "Forgetting Sarah Marshall," which Segel wrote and Apatow produced).

It seems likely that the studio is hoping to recapture some of all-ages appeal that characterized the original variety — which featured Rock stars like Alice Cooper and skits such as Animal gazing lustfully at Rita Moreno as she coos "Fever" — that aren't likely to appear on "Sesame Street" in the foreseeable future.

At the same time, the studio will continue to replenish the YouTube well with humorous videos and public service announcements for charities like Variety Club featuring the manic puppets. Segel and the creative team behind the upcoming movie won't be involved in their production.

The Muppets are also on tap to return to their network television roots. A Halloween special with the puppets will air next October on ABC.

If the response to the YouTube videos is any indication, Disney's ploy is working. The comments section of the video site overflows with praise for the latest batch of short movies.

"I LOVED watching the Muppet Show with my family every week when I was growing up," oddlittleducks wrote. "I LOVE being able to share the Muppet Show with my children now. I love these clips!"

Muppet Youtube Channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio

Bohemian Rhapsody: http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio#p/u/0/tgbNymZ7vqY

Carol of the Bells: http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio#p/u/1/ysIzPF3BfpQ




Muppets are timeless. Statler and Waldorf pretty much outlined the progression of almost every thread on GAF on the old Muppet Show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE

Waldorf: That was wonderful!

Statler: Bravo!

Waldorf: I loved it

Statler: It was great

Waldorf: Well it was pretty good

Statler: Well it wasn’t bad

Waldorf: Well there were parts of it that weren’t very good though

Statler: It could have been a lot better

Waldorf: I didn’t really like it

Statler: It was pretty terrible

Waldorf: It was bad

Statler: It was awful!

Waldorf: Terrible!

Statler: Terrible!

Waldorf: Hey, boo!

Both: BOO!
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
I love the Muppets.

(had a couple muppet inspired nicknames over the years)

and The Great Muppet Caper is still one of my favorite movies oot.

Hope the new movie kicks ass.
 

womp

Member
Coming from someone who religiously watched the original Muppet Show on Sunday nights after Lawrence Welk in the late 70's.

To me The Muppets died with Jim Henson.

The moment they appeared in that Weezer video (And I liked Weezer too) was game over for me. Jim would have never have allowed that - To become shills for products etc. Brian Henson should be ashamed and his horrible movies reflect that, A Muppet Christmas Carol aside.
 
womp said:
Coming from someone who religiously watched the original Muppet Show on Sunday nights after Lawrence Welk in the late 70's.

To me The Muppets died with Jim Henson.

The moment they appeared in that Weezer video (And I liked Weezer too) was game over for me. Jim would have never have allowed that - To become shills for products etc. Brian Henson should be ashamed and his horrible movies reflect that, A Muppet Christmas Carol aside.


How terrible. The Muppets are forever.
 

DrForester

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womp said:
Coming from someone who religiously watched the original Muppet Show on Sunday nights after Lawrence Welk in the late 70's.

To me The Muppets died with Jim Henson.

The moment they appeared in that Weezer video (And I liked Weezer too) was game over for me. Jim would have never have allowed that - To become shills for products etc. Brian Henson should be ashamed and his horrible movies reflect that, A Muppet Christmas Carol aside.

I think the videos on the Youtube Muppet Channel perfectly recapture the spirit of the old Muppet Show.
 

Tamanon

Banned
I actually caught the Muppet Christmas Special this year, and it was surprisingly good. Can't wait to see more info on next year's film.
 

Whimsical Phil

Ninja School will help you
womp said:
Coming from someone who religiously watched the original Muppet Show on Sunday nights after Lawrence Welk in the late 70's.

To me The Muppets died with Jim Henson.

The moment they appeared in that Weezer video (And I liked Weezer too) was game over for me. Jim would have never have allowed that - To become shills for products etc. Brian Henson should be ashamed and his horrible movies reflect that, A Muppet Christmas Carol aside.
Yes...Jim Henson would never allow the Muppets to appear in advertising.

* Wilkins Coffee (1957-1962) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Faygo (1958-1959) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* La Touraine Coffee (1958-1962) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Life Savers (1958-1959)
* Nash's Coffee (1958-1961) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Community Coffee (1959-1969) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Esskay Meats (1959-1963, Sam and Friends sponsor) : Kermit, Harry the Hipster, Rowlf, King Goshposh
* Martinson Coffee (1959) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Standard Oil of Ohio (Sohio) (1960)
* Calso Water (1961) : Cal and So (Wilkins and Wontkins) -- 6 8-second IDs, 2 20-second ads
* Frank's Beverages (1961-1963) : Frank and Fink (Wilkins and Wontkins)
* Kraml Dairy (1962) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Dugan's Bread (1962-1963) : Wilkins and Wontkins -- 3 ads
* On-Cor Frozen Foods (1962) : Onky (Mack)
* Donovan Coffee Company (1962-1967) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Purina Dog Chow (1962-1963) : Rowlf and Baskerville
* Chase Manhattan Bank (Puerto Rico, 1963) : Kermit, Rowlf, Scoop
* Florida Orange Juice (1963)
* Marathon Gasoline (1963) : Pitchman Pumps
* Merita Bread (1963) : Wilkins and Wontkins
* Federal Housing Administration (1963-1969) : Kermit, Scoop and Skip, Big V, Conrad Love
* Fortrel Pillows (1963)
* Apeco (industrials, 1964)
* Celanese Chemical Company (industrials, 1964)
* Claussen's Bakery (1964) : Mack and Kermit
* Ivory Liquid (1964) : Male and Female Hands
* Cloverdale Dairy (1965) : Cow
* Pak-Nit (industrials, 1965) : Shrinkel and Stretchel, Taminella, Big V, Mack
* Aurora Bath Tissue (1965-1966) : Glove hand ballerina
* C & P Telephone Co. of VA (1965) : Mack and Suzy
* La Choy (1965-1969) : La Choy Dragon and Mert
* McGarry's Sausage (1965-1968) : Mack and Kermit
* Southern Bread (1965-1966) : Southern Colonel
* Wilson's Meats (1965-1967) : Scoop and Skip
* American Can Company (1966) : Gloved hand -- one 60-second ad, one 30-second ad
* American Oil/Standard Oil (1966) : Clyde and Charlie
* IBM (industrial, 1966-1976) : Rowlf, Cookie Monster
* Ideal Toys puppets (1966) : Kermit, Rowlf, Snerf
* Kern's Bakery (1966-1969) : Tommy and Fred
* Royal Crown Cola (1966) : Nutty Bird and Sour Bird
* Southern Bell Telephone (1966-1968) : Mack and Suzy
* Wheels Crowns Flutes (1966) : Cookie Monster, Beautiful Day Monster
* Linit Fabric Finish (1967) : Sir Linit
* Bufferin (1967): "Memories"
* Taystee Bread (1967) : Wilkins and Wontkins -- 9 commercials, Texas markets
* Tastee Freez (1967) : Homer, Boss
* Getty Oil (industrials, 1968)
* Gleem Toothpaste (industrials and a test commercial, 1968)
* Kenner Easy Bake Oven (1968) : Kenner Gooney Bird
* Monarch Margarine (1968)
* Munchos (1969) : Arnold, Fred
* M&M Mars (1969) -- ad for "Sprint Chocolate Wafers"
* RCA (industrials, 1969-1970)
* Thom McAn (industrials, 1969)
* Hawaiian Punch (1970)
* American Express (late 1970s)
* Mirinda (industrials, 1975-1978)
* Muppet Meeting Films (industrials, 1975-1993)
* Polaroid (1981)
* National Wildlife Federation (1984-1990)
* Better World Society (1988)

All prior to Jim Henson's death.
 

Sonicbug

Member
womp said:
Coming from someone who religiously watched the original Muppet Show on Sunday nights after Lawrence Welk in the late 70's.
To me The Muppets died with Jim Henson.
The moment they appeared in that Weezer video (And I liked Weezer too) was game over for me. Jim would have never have allowed that - To become shills for products etc.

Uh.... Muppets have been shilling products since the beginning of time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ky7g1lgTwc
How do you think Jim paid for his business? He did advertisements for people for YEARS.

Not to mention they've always had a close relationship with musicians.

*damn - beaten!*
 
If they care about these franchises so much why don't they finish releasing the rest of the seasons? It's like this with old cartoons too. They half ass it and then give up shortly after starting it up.
 

womp

Member
Whimsical Phil said:
Yes...Jim Henson would never allow the Muppets to appear in advertising.



All prior to Jim Henson's death.

I never saw any of those so they don't exist.

:D

How much you want to bet most of those commercials were done for funding towards Sesame Street? It's interesting how the ads seem to dwindle around the time it premiered. For the record they seem to use mostly the same characters and not very many Muppets either....Which was kind of my point.

I don't know...They just don't feel the same to me anymore. :::shrugs:::
 
I hope they keep rising until they get to where they were years ago. I hope when I have kids they'll be able to see the quality muppets I had when growing up. Plus, they were the reason I joined a puppet team back when I was in middle school. Good times.

And now that I think back to it, the Muppets 3d show was the first 3d I had ever seen in my life. I remember taking off my glasses because I really thought the 3d was reality which freaked me out back then. :lol
 

Kazoo22

Neo Member
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
If they care about these franchises so much why don't they finish releasing the rest of the seasons? It's like this with old cartoons too. They half ass it and then give up shortly after starting it up.

Still waiting for the other half of Gummi Bears to be on dvd......





(Yay for Muppet return!)
 
So long as Disney uses smart, witty writers who get the Muppets and how their humor operates on multiple levels for kids and adults--and if the Youtube shorts are any indication, they are--I'm all for it. Still, it is Disney, so I remain cautiously skeptical that they won't use the characters solely as merchandising opportunities like they do just about every other Disney character.
 

Fun Factor

Formerly FTWer
womp said:
Coming from someone who religiously watched the original Muppet Show on Sunday nights after Lawrence Welk in the late 70's.

To me The Muppets died with Jim Henson.

The moment they appeared in that Weezer video (And I liked Weezer too) was game over for me. Jim would have never have allowed that - To become shills for products etc. Brian Henson should be ashamed and his horrible movies reflect that, A Muppet Christmas Carol aside.


Ditto, the 3 Muppet movies in the 80's were classic. Better than most Pixar & Disney CGI movies imho, but the 90's & onward stuff was crappy. The magic, wit & great writing was gone.
 
FTWer said:
Ditto, the 3 Muppet movies in the 80's were classic. Better than most Pixar & Disney CGI movies imho, but the 90's & onward stuff was crappy. The magic, wit & great writing was gone.

Or, you know, you got old.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
GDGF said:
I love the Muppets.

(had a couple muppet inspired nicknames over the years)

and The Great Muppet Caper is still one of my favorite movies oot.

Hope the new movie kicks ass.

Kermit: We're going to catch those crooks red-handed.
[Beauregard raises his hand]
Kermit: Yes, Bo?
Beauregard: What color are their hands now?

:lol
 

nyprimus2

Member
I watched Muppet Treasure Island last night on VHS. So good. These movies are still watchable for adults with the witty dialogue and breaking of the fourth wall.

I need to pop in The Great Muppet Caper.
 

rykomatsu

Member
man i clicked on this thread thinking it was about the guy who created the meme:

"I don't know if you're familiar with Japanese culture (I'm an expert)"

... :/
 

woxel1

Member
ConfusingJazz said:
Or, you know, you got old.
Or you know, JIM HENSON DIED.

I'd also like to add that my time at Henson was very pleasant and I really wish they'd hire me back :(
 

Whimsical Phil

Ninja School will help you
All this Muppet talk gives me a chance to bring up my favorite Muppet character, and he's not even a Muppet.

Let's hope that in this Muppet rebirth, we see the return of Snake Walker.

yznp3ly
 
The Muppets died with Jim Henson. Without him and Frank Oz playing off each other the humor has never been the same. That's not nostalgia, it's a fact. You may as well have someone ghosting Calvin and Hobbes strips.
 
ElectricBlue187 said:
Muppets Christmas Carol is not only the best version of that story, it's the best full length Christmas movie ever.
Love that movie. It's a Christmas Eve tradition in my family.
 
GrotesqueBeauty said:
The Muppets died with Jim Henson. Without him and Frank Oz playing off each other the humor has never been the same. That's not nostalgia, it's a fact. You may as well have someone ghosting Calvin and Hobbes strips.
I do agree that these new muppet things are very different than the older stuff. They aren't terrible though, so why make such a fuss?
 

Linkified

Member
I still find it interesting that there was going to be a whole ride to parody that of the Great Movie Ride in Disneys MGM theme park.
 

batbeg

Member
rykomatsu said:
man i clicked on this thread thinking it was about the guy who created the meme:

"I don't know if you're familiar with Japanese culture (I'm an expert)"

... :/

When you hear ""muppet" the first thing you think of is a "muppet" making an idiotic comment some 2 years ago rather than Jim Henson's muppets...?

You poor poor thing :(
 
Son of Godzilla said:
I do agree that these new muppet things are very different than the older stuff. They aren't terrible though, so why make such a fuss?
It's true they're not terrible, but it all rings a bit hollow to me compared to the original Henson/Oz stuff which was often the product of improvisation and a natural synergy. I suppose I hold Henson's work in high enough esteem that the close-but-not-quite mannerism of the newer material bugs me. That's why I used Calvin and Hobbes as an example. I have no doubt that someone could bake up a rough approximation of Watterson's style and humor and come up with something most would consider entertaining and inoffensive, but it wouldn't be the same thing because the beauty of it is closely bound to the source imo. I know GAF isn't crazy about vague descriptors, but post Jim Henson Muppets really don't have the same soul. I think those characters and worlds were an extension of the artist, and feel flat without him.
 
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