Keavy_Rain
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That appears to be normal. I have had incredibly vivid sex dreams at least once a week since starting.
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The Great Porn Experiment (TEDxGlasgow)
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That appears to be normal. I have had incredibly vivid sex dreams at least once a week since starting.
I should try this. If I go like 10 days I start to notice how I actually feel more emotions than just anger and lazy, haha. I'll see people with kids and think the kids are adorable, stuff like that.
Then one fap session and BAM, palette clean. Kids awful. Bingo bango, haha.
But I wonder how liberating it would be to go a month or more without porn and have actual human emotions.
Then one fap session and BAM, palette clean. Kids awful. Bingo bango, haha.
But I wonder how liberating it would be to go a month or more without porn and have actual human emotions.
congrats on the 70. its all easy from now on, well compared to the beginning. especially that you are dating right now
@more pretty girls
i noticed that aswell and i think its a bit of both, but those girls stay in my mind way longer than before. damn i have hot friends and i love it
thank the lord for the good weather I felt the same way, I was watching a sappy movie and almost cried man.
Alright, cool. Had some really strange ones and I honestly for maybe the first time ever, really couldn't tell the difference between reality and dream. I may have broken my streak, I just don't know :lol
All right, I'm going to try this.
Can't remember when I last went more than five days without self-gratification (and I have a girlfriend with whom I regularly have sex). I have trouble focussing some times because I will randomly get the itch, and feel a powerful need to scratch it that doesn't go away until I do. If that's not addiction, I don't know what is.
This is going to be tough.
Can't remember when I last went more than five days without self-gratification (and I have a girlfriend with whom I regularly have sex). I have trouble focussing some times because I will randomly get the itch, and feel a powerful need to scratch it that doesn't go away until I do. If that's not addiction, I don't know what is.
This is going to be tough.
tsurugi no mai
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Had a wet dream after only five days. I almost forgot how much I hate those. Still going strong, though.
Fantastical
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I actually enjoy them. When I have them I have sexy dreams and then wake up mid-orgasm.
tsurugi no mai
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That's the process for me as well, but when I wake up with my boxers full of jizz, it really pisses me off.
I've gone ten days now, and yesterday was when I first realized any changes
Literally raged from Diablo 3, skype conference with friends, and became impatient with little things for the rest of the day. I was fine during work today though. Testosterone levels rising(?).
Also, I've tried refraining from fapping multiple times but have always failed less than a week down. What I'm doing differently now is going to the gym and getting good exercise lifting weights and the like. Try it out if you're having trouble keeping your mind off porn.
Literally raged from Diablo 3, skype conference with friends, and became impatient with little things for the rest of the day. I was fine during work today though. Testosterone levels rising(?).
Also, I've tried refraining from fapping multiple times but have always failed less than a week down. What I'm doing differently now is going to the gym and getting good exercise lifting weights and the like. Try it out if you're having trouble keeping your mind off porn.
I really think /r/nofap, and to a lesser extent this thread, are missing the point of Wilson's hypothesis and may even be detrimental in the long run.
/r/nofap specifically has almost entirely misinterpreted Wilson's point (to abstain from porn due to its capacity for addictive behavior) and turned it instead into a crusade against masturbation in general, porn-assisted or not.
Even this thread leans towards that direction, with everyone concerned with not masturbating and barely discussing the porn component.
What /r/nofap is encouraging isn't recovery from porn 'addiction', it's a mindset that masturbation is a highly detrimental and shameful activity.
/r/nofap specifically has almost entirely misinterpreted Wilson's point (to abstain from porn due to its capacity for addictive behavior) and turned it instead into a crusade against masturbation in general, porn-assisted or not.
Even this thread leans towards that direction, with everyone concerned with not masturbating and barely discussing the porn component.
What /r/nofap is encouraging isn't recovery from porn 'addiction', it's a mindset that masturbation is a highly detrimental and shameful activity.
Karak
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This...so much this. There is some unhealthy random shit tacked on that for some reason people are buying into.
Naked Snake
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Day 31 of no porn (had 3 non-porn assisted orgasms during the month), and today has been quite rough. I can't seem to focus much and keep doing repeated compulsive behaviors...
I don't really have a desire to look at porn anymore, nor am I really interested in masturbating without porn (which the previous two posts seem to encourage), but I am horny as hell for sex, which unfortunately isn't as easy to come by, or "on-tap", as masturbation is.
Gonna go on the prowl his weekend.
I don't really have a desire to look at porn anymore, nor am I really interested in masturbating without porn (which the previous two posts seem to encourage), but I am horny as hell for sex, which unfortunately isn't as easy to come by, or "on-tap", as masturbation is.
Gonna go on the prowl his weekend.
Battersea Power Station
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I'm kinda watching this from the outside in because I find it fascinating, but that's not the impression I get at all.
Masturbation to online porn can be habit-forming, much like alcohol can be. The "fapstonauts" have found their lives deteriorating because of this habit and want to kick it. r/nofap seems to be their AA meetings. They're eliminating masturbation and porn completely and entirely because any slip up can kick you off the wagon.
As far as I can tell, they're not looking to legislate against porn or anything like that.
If you're a casual masturbator, or a social drinker, the complete abstinance might look silly from the side.
Henchmen21
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You can pry my porn from my cold, dead, sticky hands before I give it up.
Just as it should be
Pfft. Human emotions are overrated. Porn is better
Just as it should be
Pfft. Human emotions are overrated. Porn is better
That's not true, not entirely at least. Yes, Wilson believes that porn is the addiction, not masturbation.
However, he also says that in practice, abstaining from any sexual activity (masturbation included) for a period of time (6 to 12 weeks) is necessary to recovery from porn addiction. That's what he calls the "reboot" process. After that period, it's okay to fap without visual aid. That's where the no-fap thing comes from, and it's not really missing the point until one vows never to fap ever again.
Master Milk
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finally cleared 10 days again
oh well, 10 down, 90 to go, hopefully
i'll prolly fuck up today or tomorrow like usual after postin in here lol
oh well, 10 down, 90 to go, hopefully
Henchmen21
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Let me give you guys some motivation:
Bram Stoker's Dracula trailer
There are a lot of sexual under and over tones in this film. It's incredibly erotic, both in explicit imagery and underlying themes. It's the epitome of gothic romanticism: sensual, dark and dangerous. Exactly the sort of thing that should be exciting and arousing.
Before my 90 day reboot, it wouldn't have done anything for me. That bit where Dracula turns into mist and floats into Mina's bed as she whispers in ecstasy "Oh, my love!"? Not a thing.
Thing is, that sort of stuff excites me now. Ideas and metaphor, film and tv sex, is a potent thing once again. A sex scene in a non-porno video no longer bores me, it excites me. As it should.
Work towards being turned on by Dracula again, my friends. Then you will be free.
Bram Stoker's Dracula trailer
There are a lot of sexual under and over tones in this film. It's incredibly erotic, both in explicit imagery and underlying themes. It's the epitome of gothic romanticism: sensual, dark and dangerous. Exactly the sort of thing that should be exciting and arousing.
Before my 90 day reboot, it wouldn't have done anything for me. That bit where Dracula turns into mist and floats into Mina's bed as she whispers in ecstasy "Oh, my love!"? Not a thing.
Thing is, that sort of stuff excites me now. Ideas and metaphor, film and tv sex, is a potent thing once again. A sex scene in a non-porno video no longer bores me, it excites me. As it should.
Work towards being turned on by Dracula again, my friends. Then you will be free.
Then don't.
Gianna Michaels is reason enough to never give up porn. And Katie St Ives.
Naked Snake
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I scored today (sex), what a relief.
Suairyu, you'll be glad to know that it was sensual and not "just a fuck"... ah, dem lips!
Suairyu, you'll be glad to know that it was sensual and not "just a fuck"... ah, dem lips!
Not to be a detriment but humans have been fapping to porn for quite a long time. The problem is the over stimulus you get from fapping to the hardcore stuff constantly. That's what creates the sexual dysfunctions.
If you guys are truly addicted to it, going cold turkey is also not good, quitting suddenly will lead to relapse and doing it even more. Instead, if you feel that this is necessary, try only fapping to soft core porn, nude pictures, or simple stuff like that.
It's in human nature to masterbate, doing it constantly is a sign of being a growing young male.
Just limit what you look at, try to avoid sites like youporn or redtube, buy a playboy, or a maxim, or stick to skinemax stuff.
If you guys are truly addicted to it, going cold turkey is also not good, quitting suddenly will lead to relapse and doing it even more. Instead, if you feel that this is necessary, try only fapping to soft core porn, nude pictures, or simple stuff like that.
It's in human nature to masterbate, doing it constantly is a sign of being a growing young male.
Just limit what you look at, try to avoid sites like youporn or redtube, buy a playboy, or a maxim, or stick to skinemax stuff.
FallingEdge
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What about erotic stories? Can we use those as stimulation?
NO STIMULATION
NO PORN
NO WANKING
NO ORGASM
Stop making the 90 day process difficult jesus christ you people
FallingEdge
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I'VE HEARD TOO MANY CONFLICTING REPORTS ALREADY.
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Sorry if I'm causing problems, but this process reminds me of fad diets.
Fad diets revolve around you depriving yourself of something, and having you lose weight. While this process works well in the short term, it doesnt work in the long term.
Eating and ejaculation are both very similar to what they do with the brain regarding addiction. If you do either in excess or, do it with unhealthy things, it's going to be unhealthy, and affect you.
Now the best way to diet for the long term is proper diet and exercise, not to deprive yourself of something, because that leads to a relapse.
Surprisingly the same thing should be done with porn/masterbation, don't do either in excess, stay away from the bad stuff(hardcore porn) and get a little exercise (let's you relieve some of that extra energy that might be fueling your sex drive)
Both are primal instincts that should be relieved, but instead of eating that double cheeseburger/fapping to hardcor porn, you should instead eat lean meat/fap to normal porn
Fad diets revolve around you depriving yourself of something, and having you lose weight. While this process works well in the short term, it doesnt work in the long term.
Eating and ejaculation are both very similar to what they do with the brain regarding addiction. If you do either in excess or, do it with unhealthy things, it's going to be unhealthy, and affect you.
Now the best way to diet for the long term is proper diet and exercise, not to deprive yourself of something, because that leads to a relapse.
Surprisingly the same thing should be done with porn/masterbation, don't do either in excess, stay away from the bad stuff(hardcore porn) and get a little exercise (let's you relieve some of that extra energy that might be fueling your sex drive)
Both are primal instincts that should be relieved, but instead of eating that double cheeseburger/fapping to hardcor porn, you should instead eat lean meat/fap to normal porn
Naked Snake
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http://www.reddit.com/r/nofap
Isn't this program specifically designed around not masterbating to visual stigma, or even masterbating for a while?
I'm sorry I'm not willing to read 31 pages of people talking about their masterbation.
If you could direct me to the program you guys are doing that would be swell
I keep mis-assuming because nobody in their right mind would want to watch gay porn anyway. It's universally terrible.
I'd have thought gay guys wouldn't have this problem!
Yes, it is a period of 90 days with no porn, no masturbation and (if it can be avoided) no orgasm. It is 'reset' the dopamine receptors in your brain for arousal.
True facts of this:
1 - It works. See: success stories.
2 - You can resume non-extreme pornographic consumption afterwards.
3 - It's only been 16 pages by any sensible metric.
4 - Even going by your weird 31 count, if you're not willing to read, don't bother posting. You don't even need to read the entire thing to see your point had been made before and was ill-judged then, too.
Naked Snake
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Home grown porn is always better. Unless you mean professionally. In which case I'm not a fan of your industry
I'm yet to come across man-man porn I find anywhere near as pleasing as I find me-man reality.We've seen success stories for, fad diets, and those success stories are usually short term. Also, it can work, but it's not the most healthy thing
Not orgasming for 90 days is not healthy. Humans were not built for that.
They weren't built for internet porn either, but such is the situation we're in.
Stop comparing this to weight loss. Go to YourBrainOnPorn and watch the educational videos.
FallingEdge
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I think that these are two are valid approaches.
If you go the full 90 and reach your goal, you do not want to go back to watching what you were watching previously. That would make the entire journey completely pointless. You are suppose to keep it tame. Why go back to what you were before?
I understand the relation between fad diet and this 'diet' and what you are trying to say. Many ways to reach the end game.
If you go the full 90 and reach your goal, you do not want to go back to watching what you were watching previously. That would make the entire journey completely pointless. You are suppose to keep it tame. Why go back to what you were before?
I understand the relation between fad diet and this 'diet' and what you are trying to say. Many ways to reach the end game.
Actually humans were built to be attracted to sexual acts, and porn is merely a sexual act in viewable form
The problem is the amount of access to the porn we have leads to over stimulation, and excess of anything is unhealthy, especially when it comes to sex.
And I will keep up my food analogy. Food and orgasm both produce pleasure, and are easily available, and also both are wide scale problems with regards to excess. There aren't specific parts in your brain that get addicted to things, addiction lies in your pleasure centers, and both things produce pleasure that gets you addicted.
Hell we've been making porn since we were cavemen
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/s...-female-anatomy.html?_r=2&emc=tnt&tntemail1=y
This post is just one giant "didn't read lol", even after you've asked for sources and explanations and have been provided.
Explain to me then what I didn't read.
dude, stop defending your hobby
HarryHengst
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Ah yes, 'biotruths'.
The source I provided. And the thread that lists stuff from the source multiple times.
I know this for fact because you keep bringing up points fully addressed by the source.
And it's not that you're disagreeing with the source, either. You're genuinely raising these things as if they've never once been raised.
So, yeah. This will be the last time I respond to you until you do your homework.
if we talk about "biotruths" humans were built to procreate. Procreating != "being attracted to sexual act". It's being attracted to a particular person with whom you want to start procreating/a sexual act. Porn is the opposite of procreation, if we follow the logic of "biotruths", so humans weren't built for that.
Are these posts well supported documented truths, or are these on a terribley designed website with a few doctors who may or may not know anything about human sexuality.
It's your time to defend your actions, not the websites. If you need a website to back you up on a claim, then you go search for that website, and you give me that specific link. I'm not going to read every little thing on the Internet, if you really want me to stop telling you thatyou're wrong, then you'd better prove it yourself. Don't give me a terribly designed site and tell me to just "read this"
Lrn2 argue bro
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