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The Halo 3 Beta Thread
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Every game I've played of Rumble Oddball is usually one guy with the ball and the other idiots cannibalizing each other to get to him. And when I say cannibalizing, they'll all try to kill each other to get to him and all he has to do is hit them because nobody works as a team to take the ball out. But then again, it's Rumble.the disgruntled gamer said:
I think one-melee kills are necessary for bomb and flag. But not for Oddball.dralla said:
I agree about the cammo.
I like the new bomb planting mechanism. It's not that easy. It's actually very difficult to fight off a team in Valhalla when trying to detonate it. They only need around two seconds to return it.
Not a Jellyfish
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HaloFans said:
yeah too bad they nerfed it. even worse than the last time. now it actually works like a pistol. haha
ToyMachine228
Member
I think that's a pretty good idea for the Pistol. Make it sort of like a Deagle. Low ammo, decent power, pretty slow, and no scope. Thumbs up from me.
My Arms Your Hearse
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siamesedreamer said:
1) People are sick of Valhalla
2) VIPs just run up to the right side of the map and get up on that high ledge. Incredibly boring.
Wildstar75
Member
This thread probably doesnt need another opinion of the Beta, but here is mine anyway after playing it for most of the holiday weekend for the first time. I was in Vegas on vacation for the last week, and the only thing that made me excited about coming home was Halo3. Ill preface my impressions by saying Halo is up there on my greatest games of all time list. Halo2 was bittersweet for me. I dont own a ps3 and Im not a sony fanboy.
Ill start with the maps:
Valhalla - I found this map way to big for Team Slayer with only 8 people. But One Bomb and Capture the Flag were alot of fun. I wish the bomb didnt reset so quickly though. Probably that can be changed. Overall I dont think they messed with success on this level. The man cannon is a nice addition. Other than that there is nothing new or revolutionary about this map for me. I couldnt find a portable man cannon but Its probably there and would be quite useful. Cant wait to play this baby with Tanks and more people.
Snowbound - At first I wanted to try it, but everyone kept screaming to veto it. After about 3-4 rounds on this level, usually team slayer with std weapons or snipers and shotguns, I found out why. It was clear, this level is utter garbage! Absolutely no fun to play. Also tried VIP on this level, and that also sucked. They should take this crappy map out of the game, if it was available to download for free, I wouldnt want it. Im sure it was this map that motivated them to create a veto system.
High Ground - This was the most exciting map for me because it was new and fun to play. I never experienced the spawn issues others mentioned but the sniper guarding the Rocket and Turret did give the beach an unfair advantage in my mind. Other than that, I like the map, its a good addition to the Halo universe. I enjoyed both Team Slayer matches and Territories. Still there is nothing revolutionary about it.
Weapons and Equipment and Vehicles:
The new grenades werent anything special for me. Im not sure what I think of the new grenade throwing behavior but it seems ok so far. I liked the portable man cannons and death areas. I didnt find much use for the shield. What I loved were the Turrets. This to me was the most fun addition to the gameplay of Halo. The new 2 man jeep thing is a joke its so lame. Its nice to have the assualt rifle back, and its good to see the needler actually be useful. Not sure how I feel about the new Laser weapon. Is it me or are all the weapons more powerfull? I felt like I died or killed people slightly quicker.
Graphics, Physics, Sounds:
For a game with such a big budget and such high expectations, and after the halo3 e3 teaser, I have to say it: CRAP. This game is a joke graphically. From player model, to texturing and lighting. Even the new explosion efx sucked in my mind. Most people I played with found it virtually indistinguishable from halo2. Physics seemed no better than halo2, but perhaps it is because the levels didnt show off what the engine could do. Sound I cant comment on because I wasnt able to use my surround system on the game.
Overall:
I really didnt find that this game distinguished itself from halo2. Looks similar, plays similar. I was dissapointed, to me it was halo2.3. Though its nothing special at least high ground is a fun new map. I hope the other new mp maps are more like this or better, and less like snowbound. I really feel like bungie and microsoft are just trying to cash in here. And thats exactly what they'll do with me, cuz sure Ill get it, its halo3. And its fun. And all my friends will be playing it online. But ya know what, I had more fun playing oddball on the Halo2 version of the hangem high map this weekend then I did with Halo3.
Ill start with the maps:
Valhalla - I found this map way to big for Team Slayer with only 8 people. But One Bomb and Capture the Flag were alot of fun. I wish the bomb didnt reset so quickly though. Probably that can be changed. Overall I dont think they messed with success on this level. The man cannon is a nice addition. Other than that there is nothing new or revolutionary about this map for me. I couldnt find a portable man cannon but Its probably there and would be quite useful. Cant wait to play this baby with Tanks and more people.
Snowbound - At first I wanted to try it, but everyone kept screaming to veto it. After about 3-4 rounds on this level, usually team slayer with std weapons or snipers and shotguns, I found out why. It was clear, this level is utter garbage! Absolutely no fun to play. Also tried VIP on this level, and that also sucked. They should take this crappy map out of the game, if it was available to download for free, I wouldnt want it. Im sure it was this map that motivated them to create a veto system.
High Ground - This was the most exciting map for me because it was new and fun to play. I never experienced the spawn issues others mentioned but the sniper guarding the Rocket and Turret did give the beach an unfair advantage in my mind. Other than that, I like the map, its a good addition to the Halo universe. I enjoyed both Team Slayer matches and Territories. Still there is nothing revolutionary about it.
Weapons and Equipment and Vehicles:
The new grenades werent anything special for me. Im not sure what I think of the new grenade throwing behavior but it seems ok so far. I liked the portable man cannons and death areas. I didnt find much use for the shield. What I loved were the Turrets. This to me was the most fun addition to the gameplay of Halo. The new 2 man jeep thing is a joke its so lame. Its nice to have the assualt rifle back, and its good to see the needler actually be useful. Not sure how I feel about the new Laser weapon. Is it me or are all the weapons more powerfull? I felt like I died or killed people slightly quicker.
Graphics, Physics, Sounds:
For a game with such a big budget and such high expectations, and after the halo3 e3 teaser, I have to say it: CRAP. This game is a joke graphically. From player model, to texturing and lighting. Even the new explosion efx sucked in my mind. Most people I played with found it virtually indistinguishable from halo2. Physics seemed no better than halo2, but perhaps it is because the levels didnt show off what the engine could do. Sound I cant comment on because I wasnt able to use my surround system on the game.
Overall:
I really didnt find that this game distinguished itself from halo2. Looks similar, plays similar. I was dissapointed, to me it was halo2.3. Though its nothing special at least high ground is a fun new map. I hope the other new mp maps are more like this or better, and less like snowbound. I really feel like bungie and microsoft are just trying to cash in here. And thats exactly what they'll do with me, cuz sure Ill get it, its halo3. And its fun. And all my friends will be playing it online. But ya know what, I had more fun playing oddball on the Halo2 version of the hangem high map this weekend then I did with Halo3.
snowbound is definitely my favorite of the three beta maps. the shield doors add so much to the game, and you can traverse the map underground for more personal "head on" fights, or up top for longer range skirmishes. its very open to different gameplay styles, and i dont find people dominating spots like you'll see in slayer high ground.
Diablohead
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Someone needs to find out if the pistol can kill someone in one clip without another gun as support, if the pistol can do that on its own I think its got plenty of power.
If not they might as well use the halo 2 pistol skin since that was like a peashooter on a rainy day.
If not they might as well use the halo 2 pistol skin since that was like a peashooter on a rainy day.
ToyMachine228
Member
JdFoX187 said:
I really think the best way to take it would be to make it non-dual-wieldable, have a small clip, make it do headshots, don't give it a scope, and give it decent power. I think that would be cool. Whether or not it would be balanced and would fit into the game's set of weapons I don't know.
goldenpp72
Member
The only map that seems abused to hell is valhalla so far, in vip the way people just hide up the cliff is boring and if you're on the red team it's harder to see annoying blue snipers.
Diablohead
Member
Well thankfully these will be fixed for the final release, but I have to wonder why bungie left such easy exploits on the maps for the beta, maybe they wanted them tested :lolgoldenpp72 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN2u1nCtvz4
This video is worth watching if it isnt already old. He gets out of Valhalla (big whoop I know) then proceeds to take a banshee straight up through the clouds into space. The planet horizon is freaking incredible. Of course, you arent supposed to get up there in multi so it gets way janky but they wouldnt put that in there for no reason, right?
This video is worth watching if it isnt already old. He gets out of Valhalla (big whoop I know) then proceeds to take a banshee straight up through the clouds into space. The planet horizon is freaking incredible. Of course, you arent supposed to get up there in multi so it gets way janky but they wouldnt put that in there for no reason, right?
LunaticPuma
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JdFoX187 said:
If a team has the lead, and a good sniper, they can sit on the beach all day long. There is no incentive for them to go into the base. Especially since the bubble shield and rockets are within an easy grabbing distance. The laser is the only real power weapon in the base, but it's not needed to guard the beach and with all of the cover provides no advantage to the losing team in the base. There is no real path to get down to the beach that isn't wide open for a sniper to take off your head.
They need a second sniper rifle in the base for Highground slayer.
Conversely, I have never seen a team dominate Snowbound from a single spot.
LunaticPuma
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Proelite said:
Apparently you've never heard of "boxer" controls. :lol
goldenpp72
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yeah I have yet to find that 'exploit' so far, we had a few guys camping the beach but we just ran down there with lasers and battle rifles, they took one of us down but at that point it didn't matter.
But I don't play with pros I don't think, so maybe it's different for them.
But I don't play with pros I don't think, so maybe it's different for them.
LunaticPuma
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JdFoX187 said:
:lol
A good sniper will head shot you before you reach the ground with the laser.
:lolLunaticPuma said:
If you say so. I've seen teams attempt to camp at the beach numerous times. Every time, it ends up with the same result. I go around the side, the rest of my team goes down the territory three side and after I take out one or two guys, they finish the rest up.
But we'll use the Bungie.net excuse and say I played against n00bs.
Gotta go to work, but figured I'd pop in real quick and just say that me and Ironclad played alot of DT last night, and we never had a problem with campers on the beach...at one point we had a team get two snipers and we still managed to get down there and put a stop to it. There's so much cover on the way to the beach and multiple paths you can take that it really negates any person dominating with a sniper for too long...and these guys weren't complete scrubs either.