Cosmic Bus
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Metrodome's Blu releases are thus far region-free.
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Metrodome's Blu releases are thus far region-free.
Christoff Yurievich
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really? I hope that since it's Warner it'll be good but then again even Disney puts out bad ones from time to time so I guess it's possible.TAJ said:
Hum, i've got a little technical question here that tickle my mind.
I was watching the wowing Happy feet and i thought, why don't they release CGI movie in 60 fps ? Is it bandwdith compatible and wouldn't be amazing (even if a little less "cinema" like) ????
SOme times with Full HD, i feel the 24 fps is just so old and limited...
I was watching the wowing Happy feet and i thought, why don't they release CGI movie in 60 fps ? Is it bandwdith compatible and wouldn't be amazing (even if a little less "cinema" like) ????
SOme times with Full HD, i feel the 24 fps is just so old and limited...
orioto said:
Rendering each frame in a big budget CG movie requires a significant amount of time and resources. They could hypothetically do it, but the 24 fps format has a distinct look that moviegoers are used to anyway; framerate is not a selling point for movies.
orioto said:
Can't say for sure because I only had a very introductory look at animation before deciding it wasn't the major for me but I think it has something to do with the rendering. Processing can take a long time and adding that many more fps could potentially double that time. It's probably been decided that the slight amount more the eye can see at 60fps isn't worth the costs.
Also, the standard theater fps is 24 due in part to afterimage. However, each frame is seen twice.
Cosmic Bus
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September 16th; no details on the extras yet:
Prince of Space
Banned
Really hope we'll see a single disc release for Speed Racer Blu. :\
Cosmic Bus
pristine morning snow
Forgetting Sarah Marshall arriving September 30th with both rated (1:51) and unrated (1:58) versions in tow:
The Bank Job
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1453/bankjob2008.html
3.5/5 video
5/5 audio
but:
The Bank Job was awesome none the less.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1453/bankjob2008.html
3.5/5 video
5/5 audio
but:
No, just no, especially to Crank.
The Bank Job was awesome none the less.
Riskbreaker23
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Cosmic Bus said:September 16th; no details on the extras yet:
3 disc blu ray set !? definitely day one
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Riskbreaker23 said:
Unfortunately only one is a Blu Ray disc. The other is the digital copy and the other is a "dvd game"..........uh oh.
And I don't remember if the other digital copy Blu Ray's ever advertised themselves as multi-disc sets because of the digital copy disc. Not that I don't appreciate the digital copy idea. Has anybody here had any experience with digital copy and want to elaborate on transferring the movie to ipod/zune/psp?
Also, I just got my Onkyo SR-606 in. I barely had time to plug in the speakers and try out Ratatouille before I had to get back to work, but the early scene with the old lady and the shotgun was kicking my speaker's butts. I'm guessing there's a setup program I have to run to optimize, but I'll mess with it some more once I get home.
Quick q for those with the receiver (or other Onkyo models): Am I supposed to get audio on my 6th rear speaker even if the audio is 5.1 PCM through the Ps3? I wasn't getting any audio in my rear speaker and I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be that way or if there was a setting I was supposed to turn on to matrix the 5.1 sound back there.
Your receiver needs to be set to one of the matrix modes it has to get audio out of the 6th speaker.VanMardigan said:
Your onkyo should have a menu that will allow you to setup what audio gets matrixed into what or left alone. For example i have mine set so that no matter the signal 5.1 dolby digital, LPCM 5.1, DTS etc are all set to get matrixed into THX 7.1 mode
Christoff Yurievich
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I grabbed Juno and it was mostly painless. Took a little bit because of antivirus software (don't remember the details) but getting the code off the DVD and then putting it into iTunes was easy enough. (really, a whole DVD for that?) Downloaded it, put it on my iPod, voila.VanMardigan said:
Also: it specifically says "does not support PSP at this time" but I assume the "at this time" part meant it might change in the future so who knows now. Zune, not sure. maybe someone else knows.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
bune duggy said:
Oh. Why couldn't they just put the digital copy on the dvd?!? And bummer about ipod only. I have a zune and psp.
Also, I'm fairly certain the Onkyo is monkeying with my image somehow. Fast moving scenes have some very slight distortion that I don't recall seeing before. That's weird, considering I'm outputting 1080p so it shouldn't have to do anything to the image. I'm gonna dig into the menu later or tomorrow, but I'm more concerned with testing out the lossless and DD plus audio on my HD movies. It's fantastic.
Christoff Yurievich
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So about those Mummy movies...the reviews say "same master but higher bitrate". This is different how? Maybe someone technical (Onix) can explain this one.
And I'm glad Lost Boys looks and sounds good. Can't wait to pick it up and hear that awesome soundtrack in TrueHD.
Also: rented 10,000 B.C. and wow, it's pretty bad. It's like a PG-13 Apocalypto but with more horrible everything. And the end...he did Stargate so I guess he has a hard-on for
And I'm glad Lost Boys looks and sounds good. Can't wait to pick it up and hear that awesome soundtrack in TrueHD.
Also: rented 10,000 B.C. and wow, it's pretty bad. It's like a PG-13 Apocalypto but with more horrible everything. And the end...he did Stargate so I guess he has a hard-on for
aliens and Egypt?
Crazymoogle
Member
bune duggy said:
Picture and Sound quality are limited by bitrate - that is, the physical maximum amount of data that can be transferred off the disc. DVD/Bluray/HDDVD all transfer at a constant speed so there is a specific number that can be used - 9.8mbps for DVD and 40mbps for Blu-Ray.
You can change the pool however you like - more for video, more for audio, whatever - hence Superbit DVDs - but at the end of the day Blu Ray has a heck of a lot more bandwidth to offer.
(This is also why a 60fps transfer is not really a good idea, as per-frame bitrate would be cut in half. Only a digital download would be trouble-free, and even then filesize would more than double.)
HomerSimpson-Man
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bune duggy said:
A higher bitrate encode based on the same film master.
Like Crazymoogle said it's kind of like those Sony Superbit encodes of DVDs of like The Fifth Element versus the regular DVD releases, they're both taken from the same master copy, but one is encoded at a higher bitrate than the other on DVD for better picture and sound.
fistfulofmetal
Banned
Vanish said:
people like extra discs
makes them seem extra special
Crazymoogle
Member
Vanish said:
Actually I would imagine there is a legit reason quite often. It's usually cheaper to make a 25GB disc (although I imagine the cost difference will lessen over time) and it's definitely easier for the studio to do an encode without budgeting in for extra content that they may or may not have until literally days before pressing.
That being said, yeah, multidisc is a marketing opportunity. Just look at the useless extras on the Speed Racer gif earlier in this thread: Disc 2 is a cheap DVD and Disc 3 very likely could be.
Mr. Spinnington
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACosmic Bus said:September 16th; no details on the extras yet:
but why can't the blu-ray just be the movie disc
Looks like Paramount screwing over blu-ray owners worked out for us.
I so would have bought Top Gun when it came out originally in hi def.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/941/topgun.html
I so would have bought Top Gun when it came out originally in hi def.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/941/topgun.html
Plus all the extras they added that i dont care about.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
JB1981 said:
Ohh... very poor choice of words! Hehahahaha!
That said, i can't wait for The Dark Knight on blu-ray
The Main Event
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Chemo said:
You liked Land of the Dead?
I thought it was complete trash :/
Sorry, but fuck Land of the Dead haters.
Romero's zombie movies have always been about the social commentary. If all you're looking for is people shooting zombies, or chopping zombies heads off, there are shit tons of movies out there for you. This one was different, and as a person who has seen pretty much all of those shit tons of zombie movies, I was very appreciative, and enjoyed it very much. Best zombie release since 1990's Night of the Living Dead remake, which is also monumentally underappreciated.
Romero's zombie movies have always been about the social commentary. If all you're looking for is people shooting zombies, or chopping zombies heads off, there are shit tons of movies out there for you. This one was different, and as a person who has seen pretty much all of those shit tons of zombie movies, I was very appreciative, and enjoyed it very much. Best zombie release since 1990's Night of the Living Dead remake, which is also monumentally underappreciated.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
captive said:
Ok, that confuses me a bit. Aren't the Dolby TrueHD and the DTS MA HD tracks supposed to be bit-for-bit identical to the studio master once they are decoded? How does one lossless track end up being better than another? Could the discrepancy be a result of the hardware decoding and not the actual track?
edit:
To further my point, how many movies actually feature more than one lossless track on the disc? You usually have ONE lossless option, whether it's PCM 5.1, Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA.
Broadbandito
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need. dark. knight. blu. ray.
VanMardigan said:
Just what I was going to say - this "DTS is better than Dolby" was true for DVD but it's no longer relevant. Lossless is lossless. Fact. Unless one is 24 bit and the other is 16bit...but the article says they're both 24bit/48Hz so they will sound identical. Any difference will be due to a different master recording/sound mix and not because one sound format is better than the other
VanMardigan said:
Well it would seem as though they did do a new audio encode, as he said on the hd dvd review that the audio dips in that one scene, which it doesnt do in the blu-ray.
And there are a few that have uncompressed PCM tracks in addition to dolby true hd and or DTSMA, i have a few i just dont know them off the top of my head.
Further, why would Peter "i love me some hd dvd" Bracke lie about DTSMA being better than the dolby true hd, it sounds as though they did direct comparison of the two, when he says they had to turn the DTSMA track down to match the dolby true hd track.
VanMardigan
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captive said:
Well, I wasn't taking a format war angle, dude. Both audio formats appeared on HD DVD. I was simply wondering how one lossless format could be better than another when both are supposed to be bit-by-bit identical to the studio master, hence each other. I was looking for an actual explanation, not a format war sniper shot.
You said they did a new audio encode, but wouldn't the result then be the same studio master as before, sans the audio dropout error? And again, this is not related to HD DVD vs. Blu Ray as both of them support TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.
Then duck, I guess? I wasnt even "shooting" at you. I was talking about mr bracke who hasnt been shy about his support of hd dvd's which used to shine through in his reviews of multiplat releases.
They are two different codecs that zip up audio different ways. I dont know exactly how they each work and google is yielding no results other than how these codecs pertain to receivers.
All i was saying is that if the blu-ray had originally been released when the HD DVD was it would not have had the DTS track which sounds better. And i would have been mad because i was going to buy it until paramount went hd dvd.
In theory everything being the same, they can produce the same sound, however in this case something is different..
Also it would seem Bracke got the specs mixed up, the DTS on the blu-ray is supposedly 6.1 not 5.1.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1049711&page=2
They are two different codecs that zip up audio different ways. I dont know exactly how they each work and google is yielding no results other than how these codecs pertain to receivers.
All i was saying is that if the blu-ray had originally been released when the HD DVD was it would not have had the DTS track which sounds better. And i would have been mad because i was going to buy it until paramount went hd dvd.
In theory everything being the same, they can produce the same sound, however in this case something is different..
Also it would seem Bracke got the specs mixed up, the DTS on the blu-ray is supposedly 6.1 not 5.1.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1049711&page=2
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