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[Garlador]

Hi. I'm Garlador. And I am enjoying Metroid Prime: Federation Force.

This is easy. I can fire off several just off the top of my head.

Ooooh, let me tackle these...

1) there's other people everywhere. no thanks

Prime 3 had a ton of other people and characters running around. So did Other M. And if you mean multiplayer, then we've had multiplayer Metroid before as well.

2) it has gameplay that has and works well with multiplayer

I enjoyed MP2's multiplayer for its time. And Hunters. Lots of Hunters.

3) no emphasis on isolation

You can always play the game completely solo and be entirely isolated for nearly the whole campaign if you wish.

4) no emphasis on atmosphere/ambience

I actually found the atmosphere and ambiance to be at least acceptable. I actually found the levels to be more atmospheric and ambient than "yet another sterile space station" or recycling Zebes for the upteenth time. There was enough environmental variety for me. I remember certain locales already more than I did Hunters worlds or anything in Other M.

5) the entire aesthetic is childish when what people want out of Metroid is more grownup, darker sci fi -- something comparable to Aliens

Like when people demanded a more grownup, darker fantasy for Zelda like Lord of the Rings and got Wind Waker instead. But the game played well and was fun. Federation Force plays well and it's fun. Besides... I grew up on the original NES game, and that used chibi-art for the guides...

6) no mystique or air of mystery

We can't all be Fusion or Other M and spell everything out for the player... To be fair, there's enough mystery and intrigue in the air for me as well, especially towards end game with more than its fair share of teases for future installments.

If they want to throw out forgettable/bad spinoffs I'd be happy to ignore them without belly aching, but this is the kind of thing a company normally does when the series already has a healthy number of mainline installments and they need extra things to do.. We haven't had a decent mainline installment since Prime 1, IMO....

Yeesh. That's a rough opinion to have. I ADORE Prime 2, flaws and all. I adore Zero Mission. I adore Prime 3 and the Trilogy. I enjoyed my time with Hunters. I even enjoyed Pinball and the Metroid stuff in Nintendoland. The majority of Metroid fans really seemed to have enjoyed the whole Prime Trilogy... But opinions are opinions.

and -- this is just my opinion -- I've never EVER gotten what I REALLY wanted out of a Metroid game ever since Super Metroid. I'm still waiting for the ultimate post-Super game.

Zero Mission? It's pretty much Metroid 1 meets Super Metroid, to me.

But that's getting a tad crazy here. That's like that one Zelda fan who said every Zelda game since the NES original sucked because only the first one let you play the game in any order you wished until A Link Between Worlds came along. I mean, I understand the point, but there's so much greatness to the series beyond defining it by that one mechanic from 30 years ago.

 

[Toxi]

I'm a huge Metroid fan and was annoyed by the game's announcement, but I still gave it a try. I'm glad I did.

Federation Force is a solid spinoff. It has a good number and variety of missions, a good control scheme, nice combat with a variety of tools to use, and is fun solo, with randoms, or with friends. and despite being a spinoff, it's clearly in the Metroid setting and does neat things with Metroid elements (The one mission where you encounter

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Metroids

is really well done).

There are flaws. The bosses are bland and some take too long to kill. The lack of decent in-game communication is a serious problem thanks to how important cooperation can be. While there's a good amount of content, the only real incentive to get all the medals are cosmetic paint jobs.

But overall, it's a good spinoff. Sadly, nobody will buy a Metroid spinoff right now; the online population seems very low already. This game will ultimately fail not because of its quality, but because anyone could see from its release that it's not what people want. And frankly, who can blame them? It's Nintendo's responsibility to convince us their products are worth buying, and they failed as soon as they announced this game following the post-Other M drought.

 

[Franz Brötchen]

i think it got like a 5.9 on IGN

What are you implying exactly?
It got a 5.9 from Jose Otero, IGN is a little too large to just say any review is the same. Remember 'too much water'?

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Hi. I'm Garlador. And I am enjoying Metroid Prime: Federation Force.

...

I enjoyed MP2's multiplayer for its time. And Hunters. Lots of Hunters.

...

Opinion invalidated.

 

[Jonneh3003]

Nah, the existence of Federation Force is a prime (zing) example of Nintendo being completely tone-deaf about what their fans want.

It boils down to this:

1) FF bombs. Nintendo now believes Metroid is a dead franchise and won't greenlight another game. See how Other M basically ruined the franchise until THIS.
2) FF succeeds (doubtful). Nintendo now believes that all Metroid games need to be multiplayer dude bro space shooters and we never get another proper Metroid game again.

Can you provide an example of Nintendo acting this way in the past?

 

[Kyzer]

Im totally open to giving it a shot. It doesnt quite catch me for whatever reason

 

[nynt9]

How very open minded of you. I am sure you must have played it to have such an negative opinion of the game?.

It is evident that people are just annoyed because they wanted a real Metroid and not a spin-off. No one would give a shit if they released it alongside a true Metroid sequel. No one made a fuss about Triforce Heroes because there have been other Zelda games in the past few years and of course upcoming. This is literally all it boils down too.

Well, I did play it, and I posted my negative opinion above. I don't even care that this is Metroid anymore, I've given up on that. It's just legitimately an archaic and frustrating game that plays poorly, looks poor and isn't fun beyond an extremely elementary level. Every challenge the game throws you is incredibly basic, not necessarily in terms of difficulty but in terms of complexity. It feels like a game aimed at children with how uninteresting and basic everything is. It's like Nintendo have ignored everything that have happened with shooters in the past 10+ years.

Nah. I played it and I hated it. It's really not good. If you only have a 3DS and have no option to play a shooter on any other platform but REALLY want to play one, maybe it's tolerable, but it's full of baffling and unfun design decisions that are a hallmark of PS1-2 era design that are frustration personified.

Personally, I was not excited at all but I get pretty much every Nintendo game and I love Metroid and was willing to give it a shot just in case (and had an Amazon gift card from work) but despite my extremely low expectations I was still disappointed.

I've played solo and with a friend, and I'm just not enjoying it. The missions are pretty basic and not challenging, but bosses can be huge bullet sponges if you're not a full 4 person group. There are some "puzzles" but they're basically "oh I just pull this lever here then put this thing here" but they're not intellectually engaging in any way, they just involve busywork. The shooting is generally OK but the controls are not very enjoyable and cause hand fatigue. Both control schemes are bad. A combination of both schemes (gyro + nub) and customizable buttons would have totally saved it, but for some reason Nintendo don't want us to do that. Online has been finicky with people dropping out, at which point you have to continue the mission solo, except you don't have the solo MOD equipped so it's an even bigger chore. Most 3DS games look kinda ugly in youtube trailers but look pretty good in person, this looks just as ugly in person because of the angular art style. Overall, I thought the metacritic score is too high for the game even as it is. I don't even care about Metroid purity anymore, the game just isn't fun or good.

I played more after this and every subsequent mission was less and less enjoyable. Take the frustrating missions that every shooter game for some reason has, like "defend this thing for 10 minutes" and make a game out of entirely those segments. Add to that a bunch of instant death mechanics, slow UI and really angular graphics that look very poor due to the 3DS's poor anti aliasing, it is just a miserable experience. There are so many shooters this year alone that I'd rather play.

 

[Jobbs]

Hi. I'm Garlador. And I am enjoying Metroid Prime: Federation Force.


Ooooh, let me tackle these...


Prime 3 had a ton of other people and characters running around. So did Other M. And if you mean multiplayer, then we've had multiplayer Metroid before as well.


I enjoyed MP2's multiplayer for its time. And Hunters. Lots of Hunters.


You can always play the game completely solo and be entirely isolated for nearly the whole campaign if you wish.


I actually found the atmosphere and ambiance to be at least acceptable. I actually found the levels to be more atmospheric and ambient than "yet another sterile space station" or recycling Zebes for the upteenth time. There was enough environmental variety for me. I remember certain locales already more than I did Hunters worlds or anything in Other M.


Like when people demanded a more grownup, darker fantasy for Zelda like Lord of the Rings and got Wind Waker instead. But the game played well and was fun. Federation Force plays well and it's fun. Besides... I grew up on the original NES game, and that used chibi-art for the guides...


We can't all be Fusion or Other M and spell everything out for the player... To be fair, there's enough mystery and intrigue in the air for me as well, especially towards end game with more than its fair share of teases for future installments.


Yeesh. That's a rough opinion to have. I ADORE Prime 2, flaws and all. I adore Zero Mission. I adore Prime 3 and the Trilogy. I enjoyed my time with Hunters. I even enjoyed Pinball and the Metroid stuff in Nintendoland. The majority of Metroid fans really seemed to have enjoyed the whole Prime Trilogy... But opinions are opinions.


Zero Mission? It's pretty much Metroid 1 meets Super Metroid, to me.

But that's getting a tad crazy here. That's like that one Zelda fan who said every Zelda game since the NES original sucked because only the first one let you play the game in any order you wished until A Link Between Worlds came along. I mean, I understand the point, but there's so much greatness to the series beyond defining it by that one mechanic from 30 years ago.

Prime 3 is trash. Playing a game in single player mode doesn't fix the atmosphere. Zero Mission is severely overrated and a dull exercise rather than a true installment IMO.

 

[Garlador]

Opinion invalidated.

You obviously never got a group of drunk Metroid fans together and stayed up all night yelling at each other while boosting around as morph balls.

I wouldn't trade that experience for the world.

It's like Nintendo have ignored everything that have happened with shooters in the past 10+ years.

When have the Prime games EVER controlled like other shooters? It does it's own thing. It's not trying to be Call of Duty.

Prime 3 is trash. Playing a game in single player mode doesn't fix the atmosphere. Zero Mission is severely overrated and a dull exercise rather than a true installment IMO.

Well, we've reached this point now. Prime 3 is "trash". Zero Mission is "overrated and dull" and "not a true installment". And playing a game entirely alone rather than friends doesn't make it a more lonely experience, even though you're, again, alone.

Huh.

 

[LambdaTeos]

i agree with something, people is free to hate a game if they want, not everybody will share a same opinion

THAT being said, my opinion is that most of the people complaining are just going with the flow, it's incredible that people stopped thinking about games being fun in gameplay aspects and now bash games purely in the way the characters look

i agree, if you hate one aspect of a game it can be enough to not enjoy the game, but people just won't give a chance to anything now

yes, people want a new metroid, but when asked about being objective, they start rambling in their personal opinion

SO, just like everybody does, my opinion is that people will hate things, and disagree, and the way at least i disagree, is that most of those so called "haters" are just sheeps

It's a trend that has been going for years now, everybody loves being a sheep just to avoid sounding entitled.

 

[nkarafo]

Nah, the existence of Federation Force is a prime (zing) example of Nintendo being completely tone-deaf about what their fans want.

It boils down to this:

1) FF bombs. Nintendo now believes Metroid is a dead franchise and won't greenlight another game. See how Other M basically ruined the franchise until THIS.
2) FF succeeds (doubtful). Nintendo now believes that all Metroid games need to be multiplayer dude bro space shooters and we never get another proper Metroid game again.

And this is why i hate FF.

 

[Hero]

Can you provide an example of Nintendo acting this way in the past?

How many dead franchises do you want me to name?

 

[BGBW]

Just because you like the game doesn't mean others aren't "justified" in disliking it or not finding it appealing. You can probably find someone who feels about a game you hate the same way you feel about FF.

Problem with FF was the typical disliking of a game you'd usual see for everything else was cranked up to eleven with dislike bombing campaigns, threats of scrotum removal and silly petitions that soon became the face of Metroid fans.

I feel sorry for the quiet fan who just found the game unappealing and left it at that because unfortunately they're now associated with one of the craziest fanbases in the industry.

There's a reason the OP felt compelled to make a thread about this particular game rather than any other game that has seen negative opinions posted before release.

 

[Angry Chair]

Hostility was over the top but Metroid fans had the right to be angry. There hasn't been an entry in the series for years (and very few liked it) and then they release a multiplayer focused eyesore on the 3DS. If it was on the Wii U and didn't have the chibi artstyle, it wouldn't have gotten as much hate but whatever. While it is hypocritical of me to criticize them because I'm still pissed off about TMS, it's a spinoff that has no bearing on the future of the mainline games so they should get over it.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

You obviously never got a group of drunk Metroid fans together and stayed up all night yelling at each other while boosting around as morph balls.

I wouldn't trade that experience for the world.

I'll definetly traded it for the nights of actual good gaming sessions, drunked or not, I got from way better MP games.

I mean MP on MP2 is trash, if you are trying to say the only way to get fun of it is drunked doing silly things, I think is a great testament of it's quality

 

[DerekOfTheDykes]

Nah, the existence of Federation Force is a prime (zing) example of Nintendo being completely tone-deaf about what their fans want.

It boils down to this:

1) FF bombs. Nintendo now believes Metroid is a dead franchise and won't greenlight another game. See how Other M basically ruined the franchise until THIS.
2) FF succeeds (doubtful). Nintendo now believes that all Metroid games need to be multiplayer dude bro space shooters and we never get another proper Metroid game again.

And yet, we see Federation Force setting up the proposed plot direction for the series that was explained for sequels back when it was revealed. It's just overly dramatic to claim that the franchise is going to be killed off when Tanabe has openly expressed where he wants to go next.

Maybe it's not so much that Metroid is dead as the fact that Nintendo basically played this generation mostly safe, and a new Metroid is anything but. It's a franchise that only really sells in the west, and regularly struggles to break a million on systems that sold far better than the Wii U.

 

[MoonFrog]

Like it or not, the only person a Nintendo who really gives a damn about Metroid is Tanabe. I'm glad that he exists so the series can get some kind of push unlike others like F-Zero that have no one right now.

I do appreciate that, but I really don't like his vision for the series. He seems to want to make it a Sunday morning super hero cartoon and the expanded universe stuff from Hunters, Prime 3, and this game just isn't any good. Moreover, he's always pushing it closer to a shooter, taking those same three games in mind.

Meanwhile Sakamoto tries to turn it into a linear, stylish action game with heavy handed anime story telling. So NCL has crap vision for the series too.

....

As to FF: I'm open to it being a good game, but a good Metroid? No. It isn't that sort of game to begin with so how could it be?

I think the only sort of Metroid fans it'd satisfy are a) those who like Tanabe's expand universe and cartoon styling of Metroid, b) people who don't care about classic Metroid gameplay and/or don't miss it/expect it to return soon despite there being no signs to suggest that and a current bad history or c) the undiscerning who can't see how this isn't a Metroid game.

Is it FFs fault or the team behind its fault that a 'real' Metroid isn't coming out soon? No, so in that sense the hate is unfair and there are going to be very few chances given to it as an independent game. But there is every reason to not like what it represents as to Nintendo and Metroid, to not want it, etc.

Tbh, personally I wouldn't pick it up if it weren't Metroid branded either: I simply don't want a mission based coop squad shooter, particularly not on my 3DS with questionable internet access. Moreover I doubt this game will be very healthy.

 

[Handyandy58]

They really should say "we're working on a new console Metroid, but in the meantime try this" or something. But, yeah, it's a harmless spin off which shows Nintendo going away with other m and continuing the prime series

Spoiler

with prime 4 teased at the end

I agree. It seems like another communication issue more than anything.

 

[BorkBork]

It will be interesting to see the legacy of this game in a few years. Right now there is no way it will live up to the name of the franchise, fair or not.

 

[Neoleo2143]

What are you implying exactly?
It got a 5.9 from Jose Otero, IGN is a little too large to just say any review is the same. Remember 'too much water'?

It's also a terribly written review. There's literally no argument or structure of any kind. It's very obviously a shoddy effort.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

How so? I personally think the art style alone justifies the backlash.

 

[yanipheonu]

I dunno, I'd agree people can be way too hyperbolic about how much they dislike the game.
Makes for great mega64 skits though.

But I don't really feel like apologizing for it either. Just seems like a really lame entry in a hallowed franchise. Probably will be forgotten like Triforce Heroes was (remember that game?)

It just stings more that it's been so long since a proper entry and this is what comes out for Metroid's anniversary. They should have seen it coming.

 

[Franz Brötchen]

Eh? Super Mario Kart came out less than 2 years after Super Mario World, which is widely considered one of the best all time Mario games.

Even if you count Prime 3 (ew, I don't) it's been 9 years.

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I don't recognize Other M as existing so you can figure that math out on your own.

If you consider Prime to be the last good mainline Metroid game it's 14 years, and if you are like me and are still waiting for greatness following Super, it's been 22 years. I've been waiting a whole person who can drink in the USA and then some for what I want out of a Metroid game.

If you honestly omit even Prime 3, you're so elitist that it's not worth at all even discussing with you imo.
I can't argue at all that you, personally are offended. That's your call to make and that's it.
But only arguing from your emotional point of view is nothing any publisher as mass market oriented as Nintendo can seriously consider, can it?
The audience for the Prime games was 2 million paying customers at the most. And that included one release in the early life of a system with 100 million install base.
Let's all remember F-Zero GX, a game that hardly anyone considers bad, still it performed woefully bad.
I like to live in this place called reality and don't seriously expect things that ignore its laws on a regular basis.

 

[Retrobox]

How many dead franchises do you want me to name?

Oh baby, hit me with everything you got.

And by the way, that's still not how Nintendo operates. At all. You should know this.

 

[Garlador]

I'll definetly traded it for the nights of actual good gaming sessions, drunked or not, I got from way better MP games.

I mean MP on MP2 is trash, if you are trying to say the only way to get fun of it is drunked doing silly things, I think is a great testament of it's quality

It's not good quality and I never said it was. I just said I had a good time with.

See also: Star Fox's dodgy multiplayer.

It doesn't have to be Overwatch for people to get together and enjoy themselves, even with silly or pointless multiplayer modes.

Hell, it's like criticizing Tekken 3's volleyball mode for not being the best volleyball simulator. That's not the point! I'm smacking a ball around with kung-fu moves against a tiny dinosaur! It's a fun diversion that doesn't detract from the main game.

 

[Astral Dog]

Oh boy... are we taking OtherM as an example of a Metroid game now? That was the true anti-Metroid game. Even more so than FF.

havent played FF but i cant imagine even Other M being more anti Metroid than it.

 

[Ridley327]

How many dead franchises do you want me to name?

How many of them ended on a spinoff that didn't play much like the main series, though? From what I can recall from memory, virtually every dead series that Nintendo has died with an entry that was still pretty much what that game was originally known for.

Like, for all the bellyaching that goes around about F-Zero, there was never an installment that didn't play like F-Zero. Same with Advance Wars or Wave Race.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

It's bizarre that we got this and A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS. A sublime, maybe a little too eager to return to the days of yore remagining of a classic Zelda game vs. this.

Call it a spin-off, whatever, it isn't a Metroid game as others have pointed out pretty concisely.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

I understand wanting a new "proper" metroid game but I don't know why it was directed towards this game. From start it was a spinoff, not prime 4.
Seeing others say it's a solid game just put this in the large pile of other nonsensical/over the top reactions to video games.

 

[Jobbs]

If you honestly omit even Prime 3, you're so elitist that it's not worth at all even discussing with you imo.
I can't argue at all that you, personally are offended. That's your call to make and that's it.
But only arguing from your emotional point of view is nothing any publisher as mass market oriented as Nintendo can seriously consider, can it?
The audience for the Prime games was 2 million paying customers at the most. And that included one release in the early life of a system with 100 million install base.
Let's all remember F-Zero GX, a game that hardly anyone considers bad, still it performed woefully bad.
I like to live in this place called reality and don't seriously expect things that ignore its laws on a regular basis.

I havent' gotten what I wanted since Super Metroid. I was such a fan of Super Metroid when I was a kid that I would sit around drawing metroids in my notebook every day in study hall. It was everything. For years I'd dream about what I wanted in a sequel. It never happened. I never got the sort of true follow up that embodied the experience that I wanted. It has never happened.

 

[nkarafo]

havent played FF but i cant imagine even Other M being more anti Metroid than it.

Well, OtherM doesn't have the spinoff label to justify it's anti-metroidness so...

 

[Garlador]

havent played FF but i cant imagine even Other M being more anti Metroid than it.

I've played both.

The game controls like a multiplayer Prime game and Samus at least saves the day in Federation Force.

Other M is still the anti-Metroid king, and that was touted as a MAIN entry, not a spin-off.

For years I'd dream about what I wanted in a sequel. It never happened. I never got the sort of true follow up that embodied the experience that I wanted. It has never happened.

Happened for me. It was called Zero Mission, Fusion, and the Metroid Prime Trilogy. Everything I wanted in sequels. Gaming bliss.

 

[Jonneh3003]

I havent' gotten what I wanted since Super Metroid. I was such a fan of Super Metroid when I was a kid that I would sit around drawing metroids in my notebook every day in study hall. It was everything. For years I'd dream about what I wanted in a sequel. It never happened. I never got the sort of true follow up that embodied the experience that I wanted. It has never happened.

Not even Zero Mission or Prime?

 

[Toxi]

How many of them ended on a spinoff that didn't play much like the main series, though? From what I can recall from memory, virtually every dead series that Nintendo has died with an entry that was still pretty much what that game was originally known for.

Like, for all the bellyaching that goes around about F-Zero, there was never an installment that didn't play like F-Zero. Same with Advance Wars or Wave Race.

Chibi-Robo?

 

[Hero]

How many of them ended on a spinoff that didn't play much like the main series, though? From what I can recall from memory, virtually every dead series that Nintendo has died with an entry that was still pretty much what that game was originally known for.

Is it a spinoff if it's allegedly continuing the story from the other Prime games?

Look, I think at the very least we can agree that Nintendo's delivery of this game was fucked. If they had just simply said "We're working on a new Metroid game for NX, but here's something else in the Metroid universe to have fun with until then." there would've been a lot less backlash towards it.

I hope this game severely bombs. Nobody asked for this.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

It's not good quality and I never said it was. I just said I had a good time with.

See also: Star Fox's dodgy multiplayer.

It doesn't have to be Overwatch for people to get together and enjoy themselves, even with silly or pointless multiplayer modes.

Hell, it's like criticizing Tekken 3's volleyball mode for not being the best volleyball simulator. That's not the point! I'm smacking a ball around with kung-fu moves against a tiny dinosaur! It's a fun diversion that doesn't detract from the main game.

Sorry but u were responding to this:

2) it has gameplay that has and works well with multiplayer

so...

 

[EatinOlives]

I havent' gotten what I wanted since Super Metroid. I was such a fan of Super Metroid when I was a kid that I would sit around drawing metroids in my notebook every day in study hall. It was everything. For years I'd dream about what I wanted in a sequel. It never happened. I never got the sort of true follow up that embodied the experience that I wanted. It has never happened.

"Nintendo didn't peruse my childhood doodles and made a sequel reading my mind, series sux"

okjan.gif

 

[bon]

Metroid fans are the worst.

 

[FairXchange]

It plays really well, I just would have maybe preferred more emphasis on single player though.

 

[injurai]

Metroid fans are the worst.

This hostility is not justified.

 

[Donnie]

Well this isn't news, and its Nintendo related, so probably locked then?

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Metroid fans are the worst.

Just slightly behind Sonic and No Man's Sky fans...and Sony fans, and MS fans and Nintendo fans or...well, let's just say that as bad as "fans" can be.

 

[Nags]

It's fine to be critical of a game. Not sure what the point of this thread is.
You don't want people to complain? In all honesty you're just inviting the hostility by being so defensive.

 

[Ridley327]

Chibi-Robo?

Technically not dead yet (huge air quotes, of course), but that's always been a really weird series since the majority of installments already don't play like the original game. I'd honestly struggle to think of another IP that's remotely like that.

 

[Jezan]

I'm also hearing a lot of people angry that they aren't treating Samus with respect and this simply isn't true. Events of the game are constantly revolving around Samus's heroic actions and she comes across almost like a super hero in the briefings.

You should check out

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the final boss

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Hostility towards any game isn't justified. It just reeks of an entitled nature that, in a way, is quite sad. I had to put like three or four people on my ignore list just because they were acting like children and were not being constructive at all towards this game. Best not to deal with these people, I guess.

 

[Htown]

Metroid fans are the worst.

Yep.

The fanbase made up their minds to take this game's existence as a personal insult from day one. It's pitiful.

The game doesn't interest me, so I didn't buy it. Just like Metroid Prime Pinball. It's a spinoff. Who cares?

 

[Jobbs]

Not even Zero Mission or Prime?

Zero Mission is a competent but unexciting exercise in the series. It feels very empty to me, lacking in wonder or ambition.

Prime 1 got a lot of things right but was fundamentally flawed as a first person game. It damages the core tenants of Metroid (platforming and certain mechanics especially screw attack) and it ironically severs the connection between me and the character because I can't see her.

 

[udivision]

It's justified by the context in which it came out. That's unfortunate for the game, but this scenario isn't the fault of the fans.

 

[LambdaTeos]

Is it a spinoff if it's allegedly continuing the story from the other Prime games?

Look, I think at the very least we can agree that Nintendo's delivery of this game was fucked. If they had just simply said "We're working on a new Metroid game for NX, but here's something else in the Metroid universe to have fun with until then." there would've been a lot less backlash towards it.

I hope this game severely bombs. Nobody asked for this.

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, "i want this, don't give me anything else, i just want this, if you give me something else i will hope for it to be a disaster"

that seems fair